Dean Lombardi >Cam Neely?

[Gordoff]

With the news today of Dean Lombardi's firing from the LA Kings today, I was just wondering if maybe the Jacobs's would consider hiring him as President of Hockey Operations (or whatever the official title is) in place of Cam Neely?
Lombardi is a Boston native and has won two cups with the Kings, but he's also got his detractors. Anyway, I'm no expert on the Kings or Lombardi etc but just wondering if there would be an upside to replacing Neely with a successful, team building GM in Lombardi?

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[Pia8988]

I wouldn't wanted Lombardi anywhere near contract negotiations. Two of the worst boat anchors in the NHL reside in LA in Brown and Gaborik. That's even after the NHL graciously bailed the Kings out on Richards.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Other than the two years they won the Cup, the Kings have been anything but a consistent success.

Lombardi and co. have also employed the strategy of signing good players to long-term , big money deals well after their prime which always gets you in trouble.

 

[Ivyy13]

How about no.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

as president ok... but agreed about the contract thing

id probably be more in favor of burke out of calgary though

im still 50-50 on my feelings for neely as an executive.

 

[ODAAT]

With the news today of Dean Lombardi's firing from the LA Kings today, I was just wondering if maybe the Jacobs's would consider hiring him as President of Hockey Operations (or whatever the official title is) in place of Cam Neely?
Lombardi is a Boston native and has won two cups with the Kings, but he's also got his detractors. Anyway, I'm no expert on the Kings or Lombardi etc but just wondering if there would be an upside to replacing Neely with a successful, team building GM in Lombardi?

I would be worried that Lombardi`s idea for what a team needs to play like in this NHL doesn`t match with what successful NHL teams play like these days

 

[Fierce1]

I would be worried that Lombardi`s idea for what a team needs to play like in this NHL doesn`t match with what successful NHL teams play like these days

Name me a GM that hasn't signed a bad contract or made a bad trade. He has two Cups in the past five years, that trumps all mistakes. Another mistake would be keeping Sutter too long and being loyal to a fault. I'd take him here as Pres or GM.

 

[Fenway]

This year the Kings were doomed by the Quick injury and the ongoing impact of Voynov's legal trouble.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/kings/la-sp-kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-20170410-story.html

ONLY Chicago has continue to prosper in the salary cap era and you have to salute Stan Bowman on doing that.

 

[mikelvl]

This year the Kings were doomed by the Quick injury and the ongoing impact of Voynov's legal trouble.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/kings/la-sp-kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-20170410-story.html

ONLY Chicago has continue to prosper in the salary cap era and you have to salute Stan Bowman on doing that.

Lombardi, handcuffed by salary-cap problems that were caused by the team’s success, his own misjudgment and his overestimation of players’ worth, couldn’t fix that scoring problem.

Gee, that sounds familiar. No need to go back to the future with this guy if you ask me.

 

[bp13]

I would take Dean Youngblood over Cam Neely. Or Dean Pritchard. Or Jimmy Dean. Or James Dean. Basically you name the "Dean" and I'd probably take him over Cam Neely.

People can chirp away about bad contracts or whatever else they want to nitpick, but I'd 100% take Lombardi over Neely. Cam Neely should be nowhere near his job.

 

[LouJersey]

I would take Dean Youngblood over Cam Neely. Or Dean Pritchard. Or Jimmy Dean. Or James Dean. Basically you name the "Dean" and I'd probably take him over Cam Neely.

People can chirp away about bad contracts or whatever else they want to nitpick, but I'd 100% take Lombardi over Neely. Cam Neely should be nowhere near his job.

He was right about Julien for awhile now. Should get props for that.

I do agree however Lombardi is a far better exec than Cam.

 

[bp13]

He was right about Julien for awhile now. Should get props for that.

I do agree however Lombardi is a far better exec than Cam.

I'd hardly claim he was "right" about Julien. For one, we don't know his exact opinion or how strongly he felt. For another, does this mean Sweeney was "wrong" about Julien when he he kept him long after Neely had been critical of him? Not an argument either of us could really defend so it's not worth debate, but if you want to give him credit for that, that's fine.

As you say though, Lombardi is a far better executive than Neely. Neely, by my account, is simply bad at his job. A decent executive is a better option, let alone a guy with Lombardi's credentials.

 

[LouJersey]

I'd hardly claim he was "right" about Julien. For one, we don't know his exact opinion or how strongly he felt. For another, does this mean Sweeney was "wrong" about Julien when he he kept him long after Neely had been critical of him? Not an argument either of us could really defend so it's not worth debate, but if you want to give him credit for that, that's fine.

As you say though, Lombardi is a far better executive than Neely. Neely, by my account, is simply bad at his job. A decent executive is a better option, let alone a guy with Lombardi's credentials.

Sweeney IMO was the obvious one wrong on the Julien front, IMO. Neely had been critical of Claude publicly.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I would take Dean Youngblood over Cam Neely. Or Dean Pritchard. Or Jimmy Dean. Or James Dean. Basically you name the "Dean" and I'd probably take him over Cam Neely.

People can chirp away about bad contracts or whatever else they want to nitpick, but I'd 100% take Lombardi over Neely. Cam Neely should be nowhere near his job.

I would be shocked if the B's had any interest in Lombardi. It's not that I think Neely is NHL executive of the year, but it appears that he was right about Julien (up to a point). He also seems to have a good working relationship with Sweeney despite the occasional disagreement.

Add to all of this that JFJ is already in the organization and the mix. Lombardi had a team in LA that was built like the 2011 Bruins, and it appears that model is not going to work going forward.

I would pass, grass is always greener.

 

[BruinDust]

This year the Kings were doomed by the Quick injury and the ongoing impact of Voynov's legal trouble.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/kings/la-sp-kings-fire-sutter-lombardi-20170410-story.html

ONLY Chicago has continue to prosper in the salary cap era and you have to salute Stan Bowman on doing that.

Basically the Hawks did it one way, by identifying the core 6-7 players to build around, and interchanging the rest, meanwhile, the Bruins and Kings did the opposite, trying to lock up essentially entire groups from cup winning rosters.

Pretty clear now which of the two methods will result in prolonged and long-term success.

 

[Greek_physique]

not sure what this does...from everything I've read, people are happy to see Lombardi leave.

Past 3 years he's made horrible trades and those contracts are a mess: Gaborik for example.

 

[Greek_physique]

Basically the Hawks did it one way, by identifying the core 6-7 players to build around, and interchanging the rest, meanwhile, the Bruins and Kings did the opposite, trying to lock up essentially entire groups from cup winning rosters.

Pretty clear now which of the two methods will result in prolonged and long-term success.

I somewhat agree...as I honestly think the Kings still had a great core; but guys like Brown, Richards got old really fast and that put them behind the 8 ball.

In Boston's situation; we still had a great core (yes it was older) but we all knew trading Seguin for the package we got hurt us down the road.

We are very fortunate that Rask/Bergie/Marchand aren't that old and guys like Pasta / McAvoy and Carlo are in the fold now.

I dont think the Kings need to do a complete rebuild as they had key pieces in Toffoli, Carter, Quick, DD and Kopitar. You can re-tool quickly, but they need to be smart.

 

[BruinDust]

I somewhat agree...as I honestly think the Kings still had a great core; but guys like Brown, Richards got old really fast and that put them behind the 8 ball.

In Boston's situation; we still had a great core (yes it was older) but we all knew trading Seguin for the package we got hurt us down the road.

We are very fortunate that Rask/Bergie/Marchand aren't that old and guys like Pasta / McAvoy and Carlo are in the fold now.

I dont think the Kings need to do a complete rebuild as they had key pieces in Toffoli, Carter, Quick, DD and Kopitar. You can re-tool quickly, but they need to be smart.

I don't think so either, I'd wager they go the 4 F/4D route in expansion, retain Kopitar, Carter, Toffoli, and Pearson, and Doughty, Martinez, Muzzin, and McNabb on the back-end. Their killer is they don't have a lot coming up, and while I like some of those guys who are retained like Pearson, Martinez, even Toffoli, these aren't real true building block type of players.

The Bruins sit in a much better position now and moving forward. And considering that since 2014, the Bruins are guaranteed to have no less than 1 fewer playoff game than the Kings in that same timeframe, something to be said for that.

 

[DKH]

Neely couldn't have been more right about Claude and his system

Claude got to big and to stubborn

As Pierre McGuire said two weeks ago the Bruins are as deep in NHL prospects as anyone and Donnie (love the Donnie part) Sweeney, Cam Neely have done a fantastic job

No disrespect to posters here but you are dillusional if you think you know even 25% Hockey as Pierre

I admit he might even have me beat

 

[BruinDust]

Neely couldn't have been more right about Claude and his system

Claude got to big and to stubborn

Speaking of Claude, anyone notice Alex Galchenyuk has taken up residence in the Julien dog-house previously occupied by Ryan Spooner?

From 1st line C, to 2nd line LW, to 4th line LW currently with Steve Ott as his center. Will still be used on the 1st unit PP.

You can't teach an old dog like Claude new tricks.

 

[LouJersey]

Neely couldn't have been more right about Claude and his system

Claude got to big and to stubborn

As Pierre McGuire said two weeks ago the Bruins are as deep in NHL prospects as anyone and Donnie (love the Donnie part) Sweeney, Cam Neely have done a fantastic job

No disrespect to posters here but you are dillusional if you think you know even 25% Hockey as Pierre

I admit he might even have me beat

I would say that you have Pierre beat if hockey wasn't your third sport. Pierre has no other interests.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

With the news today of Dean Lombardi's firing from the LA Kings today, I was just wondering if maybe the Jacobs's would consider hiring him as President of Hockey Operations (or whatever the official title is) in place of Cam Neely?
Lombardi is a Boston native and has won two cups with the Kings, but he's also got his detractors. Anyway, I'm no expert on the Kings or Lombardi etc but just wondering if there would be an upside to replacing Neely with a successful, team building GM in Lombardi?

No thanks. He's got the Kings going into the same cap crunch and questionable roster that we are just getting out from under.

 

[Pia8988]

Speaking of Claude, anyone notice Alex Galchenyuk has taken up residence in the Julien dog-house previously occupied by Ryan Spooner?

From 1st line C, to 2nd line LW, to 4th line LW currently with Steve Ott as his center. Will still be used on the 1st unit PP.

You can't teach an old dog like Claude new tricks.

Pretty sure Galchenyuk had similar issues under Therrien as well with rumors of him requesting out. They are already horrid at center in Montreal.

 

[BruinDust]

Pretty sure Galchenyuk had similar issues under Therrien as well with rumors of him requesting out. They are already horrid at center in Montreal.

Therrien could never decide if Galchenyuk was a C or a winger (newsflash, he's not a center IMO), I think Claude has made up his mind the same way he did on Spooner, but demoting him to the 4th line, even Therrien didn't go that far.

Not trying to derail this thread, just pointing out that Julien is stuck in his ways and maybe Neely had a point.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Neely couldn't have been more right about Claude and his system

Claude got to big and to stubborn

As Pierre McGuire said two weeks ago the Bruins are as deep in NHL prospects as anyone and Donnie (love the Donnie part) Sweeney, Cam Neely have done a fantastic job

No disrespect to posters here but you are dillusional if you think you know even 25% Hockey as Pierre

I admit he might even have me beat

His love affair with Crosby aside, he really does. He's an information geek whose brain is filled with more stuff than I can even comprehend. I am excited to see this team develop and see what they look like two/three years from now.