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Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Mudz said:
I don't see why he wouldn't be a PK beast. That's the easiest for guys like him. He was on PK1 right away in Laval.

And I don't really care for the PP, that's Hutson's job.
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Good point.
The first step a person has to take to start loving Reinbacher is to understand what his job is not what they want his job to be.
There has been a distinct lack of appreciation for this type of player for decades now.
 
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Hinterland said:
In Switzerland there have been many games where Reinbacher led the team in ice team despite playing no or very little special teams ice time. Reinbacher had four head coaches in Swiss pro hockey but none of them really relied on him for PK or PP despite leaning on him heavily at even strength.
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That just means Reinbacher was more valuable to them at 5v5, not that Reinbacher wasn't good on the PK. Especially with 8 dmen, might as well give those PK minutes to a PK specialist than overuse Reinbacher.
 
Hinterland said:
That's a very good description of Reinbacher's game. First pass and processing are Reinbacher's biggest strengths. It allows him to turn defense into offense as fast as anybody in the game of hockey. I don't know if he's ever gonna be elite on the PP or PK but he's gonna be an absolute monster at even strength and create a ton of offense.
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The other aspect of his game is his skating. He’s smothering and will eliminate space quick
 
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7roy said:
That just means Reinbacher was more valuable to them at 5v5, not that Reinbacher wasn't good on the PK. Especially with 8 dmen, might as well give those PK minutes to a PK specialist than overuse Reinbacher.
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Wrong answer IMO.
When Reinbacher graduates they will give him all the ice time and role playing time they possibly can.
We only have to look at the PK numbers to understand it has to get better and we expect him to be part of the solution.

This season will be geared towards that goal and is why he needs all the minutes he can get in Laval.
The work load is probably going to be the biggest adjustment for this player particularly games played.
 
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Tyson said:
I appreciated when Gainey did that.
Patrice was at best a second pairing Dman often forced to play top pairing minutes, something he wasn't designed for. He played over a 1000 games.
Man the fans were hard on him
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Brisebois was once upon a time the highest paid dman in Habs history at 4 million per year. That was the start of the expectation versus reality gap.

Breezer could move the puck well enough, but he just made too many bone head plays. I was happy for him in the end though when he came back to montreal on a redemption tour. I thought he was effective on his 2nd tour, and he was clearly emotional when the fans gave him a hearty ovation after returning.
 
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Bobby Holik agent said:
In my book with the prize of ticket + the sheer number of add the bell center throw at you while you're there, the fan can freely boo whoever they want.

Also defensive 2 way d-man can get a MASSIVE TON of hype, pre NHL Mike Komisarek hype was surreal.
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Komisarek was drafted for a very different kind of nhl.

By the time he came up the ranks, the nhl went into a year long lockout, and the game had purposefully changed into something that was never supposed to be Mike komisarek's bread and butter. To his credit, he still adapted to carve out a career, although he had an incredible defensman as his partner as well.

He was more under the mould of derian hatcher in terms of playing style.... and there's another guy who was a star in the pre cap era but found it hard to adjust to the new game.
 
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In my book with the prize of ticket + the sheer number of add the bell center throw at you while you're there, the fan can freely boo whoever they want.

Also defensive 2 way d-man can get a MASSIVE TON of hype, pre NHL Mike Komisarek hype was surreal.
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Well even a blind Parrot wouldn't call Komisarek a 2-way D-Man.
I must admit I've never heard the term 2-way D-man in my life.
 
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Rapala said:
Well even a blind Parrot wouldn't call Komisarek a 2-way D-Man.
I must admit I've never heard the term 2-way D-man in my life.
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Komi d+1 & d+2
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This place, here, right here, was going apeshit for every facet of Komisarek game.
 
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His mature style of play reminds me of Kaiden Guhle and that's a great news. Guhle is a hell of a D-man. He is worth a top 5 selection in fews draft and top 10 selection for sure, in basically every draft, to me.

Habs are in very good hands with Guhle and Reinbacher, they are steady two-way guy, with great mobility and transition of game.

They are going both huge piece in playoffs time!
 
Tyson said:
I appreciated when Gainey did that.
Patrice was at best a second pairing Dman often forced to play top pairing minutes, something he wasn't designed for. He played over a 1000 games.
Man the fans were hard on him
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“We don’t need those people, we don’t want those people, they’re jealous people, yellow people,” Gainey said of the fans who booed Brisebois. “I think they’re a bunch of gutless bastards, to be honest.”

Those were his words, and if I remember well, it was live on TV (I think it was in french though, but still), was not a fan of Brisebois boneheaded plays, but hated boo-birds with a passion, loved it when Gainey said that.
 
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Bobby Holik agent said:
Komi d+1 & d+2
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This place, here, right here, was going apeshit for every facet of Komisarek game.
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I wouldn't say that. We were excited for what he could bring, but it was always clear his offense wasn't going to translate.

Expectations were similar to Reinbacher's, with more physicality I guess, but less speed.

And the NHL was way different back then.
 
The talk about Komi is ridiculous. I've seen Komi and Rein play both with my own eyes and they are not similar dmen at all. Rein is more mobile and has better hands and it was observable form just 8 AHL games because it's not really close if we are being honest. It doesn't mean Rein will develop and reach his ceiling (there's more to hockey than skating and stickhandling) just that any comparison between Komi and Rein is useless.
 
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LaP said:
The talk about Komi is ridiculous. I've seen Komi and Rein play both with my own eyes and they are not similar dmen at all. Rein is more mobile and has better hands and it was observable form just 8 AHL games because it's not really close if we are being honest. It doesn't mean Rein will develop and reach his ceiling (there's more to hockey than skating and stickhandling) just that any comparison between Komi and Rein is useless.
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CheldishGamibno said:
Rein best D tonight.
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I hope you are right. I didn't see the whole thing, but I wasn't a huge fan of what I saw. And I generally like Reinbacher. I also believe that even though I didn't like what I saw, it doesn't take away from his potential. I saw him make quite a few mistakes and get pressured into them. I think the AHL is where he should be next season. It's not like there was a ton of available space for him however.
 
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Guhle will probably be back in time for the start of the season and Savard is the other lock on the RD.

David probably start in the AHL with Mailloux and that’s fine for now. Obviously camp is far from over but he could use 20+ minutes playing in all situations and getting used to the NA ice a bit longer.
 
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Sam de Mtl said:
I hope you are right. I didn't see the whole thing, but I wasn't a huge fan of what I saw. And I generally like Reinbacher. I also believe that even though I didn't like what I saw, it doesn't take away from his potential. I saw him make quite a few mistakes and get pressured into them. I think the AHL is where he should be next season. It's not like there was a ton of available space for him however.
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He'll get the rythm of North American hockey. Timing ain't all there yet but it doesn't matter, it'll come with time and experience. When he plays you just see he sees the game at a fast pace, very cerebral player. He has attributes to be a very efficient NHL player, just need a bit of time to get there.
 
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