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Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

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Habs said:
Well not to me lol


You know how many people are saying he's the future on the PP, even though the scouts say he's a 3-4 dman? So why did we burn a pick at 5 for a guy that can't QB the PP ? Shutdown Dmen aren't that hard to find
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That's a hard one...

Because no one is actually saying he is the future on the PP and no serious scouts say he's a 3-4 dman. :dunno:
 
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Habs said:
Well not to me lol


You know how many people are saying he's the future on the PP, even though the scouts say he's a 3-4 dman? So why did we burn a pick at 5 for a guy that can't QB the PP ? Shutdown Dmen aren't that hard to find
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And you know scouts are never wrong.
 
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Habs said:
Well not to me lol


You know how many people are saying he's the future on the PP, even though the scouts say he's a 3-4 dman? So why did we burn a pick at 5 for a guy that can't QB the PP ? Shutdown Dmen aren't that hard to find
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There's 0 people saying he's the future on the PP and anyone saying he's a 3-4 D man are just those who are mad that they didn't pick Michkov or simply think that being a 1-2D requires being a dipsy doodle artist who puts up a bunch of points and don't even know they are supposed to defend.

They used a top 5 pick because big, rangy, smooth skating, right shot defenseman, with puck poise, high IQ and plus offensive attributes are a scarcity.

They are trying to build a winning team, not have the highest point producing simulations in EA sports.

Watch someone like Ryan Suter or Jacob Slavin play defense and tell me they aren't/weren't top 2 defenseman.
 
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OnTheRun said:
That's a hard one...

Because no one is actually saying he is the future on the PP and no serious scouts say he's a 3-4 dman. :dunno:
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Are you kidding? Are we going to pretend the expectation @5th overall isn't going to help the PP?
 
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Not sure if he's been mentioned yet, Francis Booboo said that Reinbacher was just 'ok' at camp, despite Reinbacher saying he was told not to try anything fancy.

He did add that he's not worried and give him time
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He also said last year Maillloux was the most NHL ready prospect
 
Habs said:
Are you kidding? Are we going to pretend the expectation @5th overall isn't going to help the PP?
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I personally don't expect a shutdown RHD to also be a PP point producer. Sure, it would be nice if he could, but I want him focused on stopping the other team's top offensive players at 5on5 and when we're on the PK. If Reinbacher had also been a big time point producer at he RHD position, he would have challenged Bedard for #1 overall.
 
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Habs said:
that just seems like BS. So Hutson has the green light to do spin-o-ramas and risky dekes at the blueline, but they told Reinbacher to settle down and not stand out?
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Yea because Hutson’s game to be effective is completely different than Redenbacher - Hutson is there to generate offense not “play Defense”
 
Habs said:
Are you kidding?
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That's my line.

Habs said:
Are we going to pretend the expectation @5th overall isn't going to help the PP?
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Now that's a completely different take, it went from the claim of many people seeing him as the future of the PP to your expectation of what a 5OA should provide to the team.

The original claim is just blatantly false so we'll skip over that.
The 2nd part is your opinion and everything goes here, If you believe being a PP QB should be an absolute requirement to be drafted top5, then so be it.
That said, not being a PP QB doesn't make one a 3-4 dman.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
There's 0 people saying he's the future on the PP and anyone saying he's a 3-4 D man are just those who are mad that they didn't pick Michkov or simply think that being a 1-2D requires being a dipsy doodle artist who puts up a bunch of points and don't even know they are supposed to defend.

They used a top 5 pick because big, rangy, smooth skating, right shot defenseman, with puck poise, high IQ and plus offensive attributes are a scarcity.

They are trying to build a winning team, not have the highest point producing simulations in EA sports.

Watch someone like Ryan Suter or Jacob Slavin play defense and tell me they aren't/weren't top 2 defenseman.
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What I expect from a top-pairing D drafted 5OA is 24-26 TOI a game. Not that concerned with his point totals. Is that unreasonable?
 
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OnTheRun said:
That's my line.


Now that's a completely different take, it went from the claim of many people seeing him as the future of the PP to your expectation of what a 5OA should provide to the team.

The original claim is just blatantly false so we'll skip over that.
The 2nd part is your opinion and everything goes here, If you believe being a PP QB should be an absolute requirement to be drafted top5, then so be it.
That said, not being a PP QB doesn't make one a 3-4 dman.
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Some guys get drafted high and don’t end up big point producers but still have incredibly long careers. Sure I’d love him to be the next Larry Robinson but if he contributes in a significant way to the teams success, no one will care.
 
Habs said:
Are you kidding? Are we going to pretend the expectation @5th overall isn't going to help the PP?
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Yes.

He could probably QB a PP but he won't obviously do it above Hutson or Matheson.

And there is a lot of other way he can impact the game like the hardest defensive minutes.

Who had the PP1 in Detroit last season and who was the most impactful defenseman?

Hint : not the same player.
 
I wouldn't be showing him vids of Shea Weber per say, as I would show him vids of Noah Dobson as that's who I think his game resembles more as he does not use that big frame to his advantage at all. Not saying he's soft, as he's clearly not but he's not physical.

I would have been showing Guhle Shea Weber vids as I felt he could model his game after him.
 
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Habs said:
Are you kidding? Are we going to pretend the expectation @5th overall isn't going to help the PP?
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Go to the Hawks forum and see how many think Korchinski will still have PP1 despite drafting Levshunov, then come back here and apologize. You're making a problem out of your own bizarre assumption.
 
junyab said:
Go to the Hawks forum and see how many think Korchinski will still have PP1 despite drafting Levshunov, then come back here and apologize. You're making a problem out of your own bizarre assumption.
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And if Reinbacher is a flop I want you to come back here and admit it, but I know you won't
 
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Habs said:
And if Reinbacher is a flop I want you to come back here and admit it, but I know you won't
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Huh? I made no statement or claim that he's a guarantee or not. Go back the last 5 drafts and tell me every top echelon defenceman was drafted to be a top PP QB. It's simply not the case. You can most certainly be a top 2 2-way d-man without QBing the PP1.
 
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pepperMonkey said:
Wait, sorry I haven't read this whole thread but are you saying he's gonna be a flop? Because why else would someone come back to admit that?
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A flop? I don't think he was worth the #5 pick, so in my mind that would be a flop of a selection. Does he suck? No. Did we take the PBA? No. Is that the way to rebuild? No. Would you be happy if he is a #3-4 20pt dman? Maybe you would be? I would not

But we are allowed to disagree here still, right? We are just one big dysfunctional family anyways. I just find it funny you can call out any player in the team's organization except Reinbacher, he's so protected by the fans lol
 
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