Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[WeThreeKings]

Exactly and he is already elite at it.

Honestly, he will go to the AHL to get adjusted to north america hockey, develop his confidence at this level and get 25 mins a game with PP1 and PK1.

If all we wanted was a shutdown defenseman to play 25 mins, he is ready now. As I told my friends after going to the games this past weekend, he seems vanilla on first impression but then you realized he completely controls the ice/defensive end when he is on.

I think the main reason he will go to the AHL to start the reason is that Barron is waiver required, so that buys Barron some time and I think they are still sensitive to the Michkovian nonsense, they'll likely want him to be overripe before they call him up unless there's injuries forcing their hands.

Not sure why everyone is so sensitive to hot takes. If you trust Reinbacher you need to act like it and stop reacting to dumbass takes. Otherwise you're just being blowhards in the other direction.

Self awareness lacking.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Not sure why everyone is so sensitive to hot takes. If you trust Reinbacher you need to act like it and stop reacting to dumbass takes. Otherwise you're just being blowhards in the other direction.

But @Frank Drebin should know better. I've seen him fight off the hoards of loonies who fall into full tribalism mode everytime they talk about McDavid and the Oilers, when Frank is moonlighting as an Oilers fan. Why fall into the same mode whenever it's a habs pick he likes versus a pick others would've preferred? Michkov will be a fine player and hopefuly, Rainmaker too. No need to be so tribal about it.

 

[Hacketts]

let him cook.

 

[ReHabs]

But @Frank Drebin should know better. I've seen him fight off the hoards of loonies who fall into full tribalism mode everytime they talk about McDavid and the Oilers, when Frank is moonlighting as an Oilers fan. Why fall into the same mode whenever it's a habs pick he likes versus a pick others would've preferred? Michkov will be a fine player and hopefuly, Rainmaker too. No need to be so tribal about it.

I'm curious about Reinbacher. I want to read about him and see how he plays and talk about him and his development. To me it's perfectly fine to think Reinbacher doesn't have upside, or that he's being mismanaged, or that he has incredible upside and is on the right track, etc. It's all fine to me so long as it is about Reinbacher.

The tribalism to which you refer is really worthless in this sense because practically no one from that draft cohort is relevant in the NHL yet. So the tribes are arguing and counter-arguing over nothing. There's nothing to say because nothing has been done. We're not even in the pre-season yet for heaven's sake. The whole dick-measuring contest thing when it comes to prospects after they've been drafting is really annoying... at least let them play out in the NHL before you claim your player is better than the other guy's player!

 

[Habs]

I'm curious about Reinbacher. I want to read about him and see how he plays and talk about him and his development. To me it's perfectly fine to think Reinbacher doesn't have upside, or that he's being mismanaged, or that he has incredible upside and is on the right track, etc. It's all fine to me so long as it is about Reinbacher.

What if I said his upside is somewhere between Brisebois and Kevin Haller? You still coming at me like a gentleman?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm curious about Reinbacher. I want to read about him and see how he plays and talk about him and his development. To me it's perfectly fine to think Reinbacher doesn't have upside, or that he's being mismanaged, or that he has incredible upside and is on the right track, etc. It's all fine to me so long as it is about Reinbacher.

The tribalism to which you refer is really worthless in this sense because practically no one from that draft cohort is relevant in the NHL yet. So the tribes are arguing and counter-arguing over nothing. There's nothing to say because nothing has been done. We're not even in the pre-season yet for heaven's sake. The whole dick-measuring contest thing when it comes to prospects after they've been drafting is really annoying... at least let them play out in the NHL before you claim your player is better than the other guy's player!

Is this after you took a sabbatical and inventoried how you reacted regarding Slafkovsky?

 

[ReHabs]

What if I said his upside is somewhere between Brisebois and Kevin Haller? You still coming at me like a gentleman?

I mean sure, why not? I'm nothing if not gentlemanly. If you argue your point based on antecedent cases and it squares up properly, why not?

The only thing that really matters is how Reinbacher performs... and neither of us are a factor in that.

 

[Habs]

I mean sure, why not? I'm nothing if not a gentleman. If you argue your point based on antecedent cases and it squares up properly, why not?

The only thing that really matters is how Reinbacher performs... and neither of us are a factor in that.

Actually you are a gentleman, I agree, and stop using big words or I'll get @OldCraig71 to pull out his paperback thesaurus

 

[417]

I'd invite posters who don't see talent in Reinbacher to watch old Weber videos (like Nashville Weber). I am not talking about videos of him punishing players or bombing the puck. Just video of Weber's man-to-man coverage.

Visually, it wasn't anything mind-blowing. Weber's gap control and angling were flawless. You basically couldn't beat him one-on-one at the blue line, you had to dump in the puck. Weber used his size to secure and protect the loose puck and then made a good first pass either out of the zone, or to his d-partner.

This is what Reinbacher will bring. It's not sexy at all, but it's effective. I suspect some fans will never appreciate this, partly because it's such a subtle talent, partly because they won't get over not selecting Michkov.

Partly? or Mostly? lol

 

[Rapala]

I'd invite posters who don't see talent in Reinbacher to watch old Weber videos (like Nashville Weber). I am not talking about videos of him punishing players or bombing the puck. Just video of Weber's man-to-man coverage.

Visually, it wasn't anything mind-blowing. Weber's gap control and angling were flawless. You basically couldn't beat him one-on-one at the blue line, you had to dump in the puck. Weber used his size to secure and protect the loose puck and then made a good first pass either out of the zone, or to his d-partner.

This is what Reinbacher will bring. It's not sexy at all, but it's effective. I suspect some fans will never appreciate this, partly because it's such a subtle talent, partly because they won't get over not selecting Michkov.

The one tweak Reinbacher can make would be with his angling so he won't get caught straight up anymore.
But those are most definitely some of his prime skills.

Who doesn't want a Dman who can Snuff out plays before they ever happen and turn the puck back the other way.

 

[Frank Drebin]

But @Frank Drebin should know better. I've seen him fight off the hoards of loonies who fall into full tribalism mode everytime they talk about McDavid and the Oilers, when Frank is moonlighting as an Oilers fan. Why fall into the same mode whenever it's a habs pick he likes versus a pick others would've preferred? Michkov will be a fine player and hopefuly, Rainmaker too. No need to be so tribal about it.

You’re gonna have to dumb this down for me
What is your issue besides being short?

Anyway i think you took my joke with @Habs about michkov being a manlet (which he is) personally

Its all meant in good fun

I hope it’s ok for me to cheer for mcdavid and the oilers as well as the habs

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I hope it’s ok for me to cheer for mcdavid and the oilers as well as the habs

Oh, I was all there with you. Just couldn't post. I followed them all season and playoffs last 12 months.

The moonlighting comment was in jest. All for fun, right?

 

[Adriatic]

Glad Laraque chimed in about his disappointment in Reinbacher. Gives me more confidence in David becoming good. Maybe he’d respect Reinbacher more if he saw him refuse to fight.

Sometimes I listen to that show and I'm astounded how slow Laraque is. Then I think he must be trolling just to get reactions but then he opens his mouth again and I'm back to thinking he's just plain dumb.

 

[Apfel Struble]

I don't know, I thought he looked like the second best dman on the ice after Hutson on aggregate over the two games. Engstrom had a better 1st game, but Reinbacher had a better 2nd one

If it wasn't for Barron's waiver eligibility, RB would make the opening roster IMO. It's not a bad thing at all as he'll get to play big minutes in Laval, but the Habs roster roster would be better with him in it

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I think it's wishful thinking to say that Reinbacher's defensive game is elite already. He has all the tools to get there, but he still gets beat too often in 1v1. He is really good at stepping up for 50/50 pucks at the blue line and making a quick first pass when he does which eliminates a lot of threats, it's so important in the playoffs to be willing to take a hit to complete a pass.

 

[Habs]

You’re gonna have to dumb this down for me
What is your issue besides being short?

Anyway i think you took my joke with @Habs about michkov being a manlet (which he is) personally

Its all meant in good fun

I hope it’s ok for me to cheer for mcdavid and the oilers as well as the habs

I actually was weirded out how Michkov celebrated his lame little scrimmage goal , he pulled a Yakupov. Like settle down bud, you are playing against scrubs.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I think it's wishful thinking to say that Reinbacher's defensive game is elite already. He has all the tools to get there, but he still gets beat too often in 1v1. He is really good at stepping up for 50/50 pucks at the blue line and making a quick first pass when he does which eliminates a lot of threats, it's so important in the playoffs to be willing to take a hit to complete a pass.

I've not seen him get beat 1v1, the major issue is him gapping up a bit too high and getting taught with someone getting behind him.. but if he is gapped up, I haven't seen anyone take him 1 on 1 and do anything but get a harmless shot away.

 

[yianik]

I'd invite posters who don't see talent in Reinbacher to watch old Weber videos (like Nashville Weber). I am not talking about videos of him punishing players or bombing the puck. Just video of Weber's man-to-man coverage.

Visually, it wasn't anything mind-blowing. Weber's gap control and angling were flawless. You basically couldn't beat him one-on-one at the blue line, you had to dump in the puck. Weber used his size to secure and protect the loose puck and then made a good first pass either out of the zone, or to his d-partner.

This is what Reinbacher will bring. It's not sexy at all, but it's effective. I suspect some fans will never appreciate this, partly because it's such a subtle talent, partly because they won't get over not selecting Michkov.

Carey Price on his game was pretty boring. Occassionaly you get a wow moment but generally not, and that was all because this guy was positionally exceptional. He didnt need to make the highlight save because he was never out of position. And at the end of the game it was 2 or less goals, a 95% SP and a W. Weber was the D version of that defensively.

 

[Guess]

Not sure if he's been mentioned yet, Francis Booboo said that Reinbacher was just 'ok' at camp, despite Reinbacher saying he was told not to try anything fancy.

He did add that he's not worried and give him time

 

[Habs]

Not sure if he's been mentioned yet, Francis Booboo said that Reinbacher was just 'ok' at camp, despite Reinbacher saying he was told not to try anything fancy.

He did add that he's not worried and give him time

that just seems like BS. So Hutson has the green light to do spin-o-ramas and risky dekes at the blueline, but they told Reinbacher to settle down and not stand out?

 

[Hacketts]

My buddy and I were talking about this and Reinbacher is a good barometer for those who actually know puck. So much of what he does is the subtle, nuanced things that win possessions, win shifts, and win games but don't jump off the screen.

that little give and go he had before we scored I think* was beauty in that second game.

 

[Egresch]

He reminds me of someone like Slavin. Not flashy, but there is a reason he will earn 90M during his NHL career.

 

[WeThreeKings]

that just seems like BS. So Hutson has the green light to do spin-o-ramas and risky dekes at the blueline, but they told Reinbacher to settle down and not stand out?

They told Reinbacher to be himself which isn't dipsy doodles.. they didn't draft him to QB PP1. They have been showing him footage of Shea Weber.

 

[Adriatic]

that just seems like BS. So Hutson has the green light to do spin-o-ramas and risky dekes at the blueline, but they told Reinbacher to settle down and not stand out?

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Habs]

Makes perfect sense.

Well not to me lol

They told Reinbacher to be himself which isn't dipsy doodles.. they didn't draft him to QB PP1. They have been showing him footage of Shea Weber.

You know how many people are saying he's the future on the PP, even though the scouts say he's a 3-4 dman? So why did we burn a pick at 5 for a guy that can't QB the PP ? Shutdown Dmen aren't that hard to find