Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Adriatic]

A good year in Laval will be great for him. He really has all the tools.

 

[HabzSauce]

I was very wrong about Michkov wanting to stay in Russia. I thought he would be there for 5-6 years like Kaprizov and maybe Putin would pay him to stay longer..

Now i am admitting that I was wrong as were the Habs

I didn't see reinbacher play today and I'm not buying the doom, But I caught a bit of michkov and man he is the real deal he looks so special. Imagine michkov and demidov....

 

[LaP]

The score would have been 10-0 if we switched goalies and this place would be planning the parade.

yep outside of a 5 minutes sequence in the middle of the 2nd period after we scored our 2nd goal we dominated that game from A to Z. Only their first line did ok all other 3 lines were dominated. When Hutson was on the ice there was no game just one team playing. Richard's 3 beer league goals skewed the result of this game.

 

[Rapala]

So after watching most of the game again a couple things stood out for me.
Reinbacher was fine very good in fact. I'm still trying to get my head around the strategy of using him so often on the left side in the Dzone. They certainly didn't do that with Mailloux and Hutson.
Did we want to see Engstrom on RD? I hope they switch pairings tomorrow just because.

I paid very close attention to our forwards and there were plenty of issues. Jared Davidson played well but was the lone standout on that line. Xhekaj was terrible on the dot and I didn't like the general lack of offensive creativity from that line. Thorpe scored the one goal but seriously it was all Lane Hutson. I can't recall seeing forwards never mind Dmen pulling off that button hook move after avoiding an off side to keep the play alive 95% would have dumped the puck.

I thought Beck's line was good when matched up against Minten but Vincent didn't play the matchup game for most of the evening. I would have liked Heineman to take the puck to the net on those two occasions he opted to shoot. Farrell had the one assist but was not really in sync with his line mates. They did seem to get better towards the end of the game but we need more from him.

I don't have to tell anyone how passive and useless our PK was. It's easy to blame the goaltender but we allowed them far too much uncontested time and space. Wrong players deployed or just a bad concept over all?

 

[WeThreeKings]

I didn't see reinbacher play today and I'm not buying the doom, But I caught a bit of michkov and man he is the real deal he looks so special. Imagine michkov and demidov....

Be great if you want Toronto success.

 

[MasterD]

I think Reimbacher's effective but non-flashy style will be a perfect complement to Hutson, who's as flashy as they get but a nightmare for his defensive partner. Gets caught deep in the O-zone all the time and takes chances at the O blue line... Reinbacher can cover him

 

[Miller Time]

I think Reimbacher's effective but non-flashy style will be a perfect complement to Hutson, who's as flashy as they get but a nightmare for his defensive partner. Gets caught deep in the O-zone all the time and takes chances at the O blue line... Reinbacher can cover him

They do seem like a very good pairing...

Quick, someone with photo shop skills do up a DeVito/Arnie "twins" meme

Kidding aside, the smarts of both of them would be the key compliment. The reads off of each other, including of their styles & strengths/weaknesses, could be a match made in hockey heaven.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

yep outside of a 5 minutes sequence in the middle of the 2nd period after we scored our 2nd goal we dominated that game from A to Z. Only their first line did ok all other 3 lines were dominated. When Hutson was on the ice there was no game just one team playing. Richard's 3 beer league goals skewed the result of this game.

Breakaway goals and deflections don't constitute beer league goals....why indulge in such copium for a meaningless exhibition game? The Habs were the better team but lost the game on goals that would have required heroic stops......it happens.

I think Reimbacher's effective but non-flashy style will be a perfect complement to Hutson, who's as flashy as they get but a nightmare for his defensive partner. Gets caught deep in the O-zone all the time and takes chances at the O blue line... Reinbacher can cover him

This is a misconception as the D patrner does not cover up such mistakes, the F3 does this. I see Reinbacher and Guhle becoming an elite shut down pair that also contribute offensively.

 

[Habricot]

Thats one of the reason I wouldnt have problem to keep 8 dman.
Lets making something like :
Matheson / Guhle
Hutson / Savard
Xhekaj / Mailloux
Struble / Barron

And you keep rolling Hutson, Xhekaj, Mailloux, Struble, Barron. Their effectiveness will dictate their icetime.
This is not a problem imo if those guys don’t play all the 82 games

I have a feeling that Xekhaj, Reinbacher would be a better NHL pairing this year.

 

[Sam de Mtl]

I was very wrong about Michkov wanting to stay in Russia. I thought he would be there for 5-6 years like Kaprizov and maybe Putin would pay him to stay longer..

Now i am admitting that I was wrong as were the Habs

You have not admitted anything before being caught on your contradictions.

You simply switched opinions without owning up to anything. Hindsight is cheap.

Edit: it's not even hindsight actually. Its just an incredibly frail opinion that can get swayed by every new information.

Toughen up, kid.

 

[HabzSauce]

Be great if you want Toronto success.

Honestly I used to think that too but I don't think so anymore. Michkov is too good, has me salivating lol. We'd figure the D out some other way but hopefully reinbacher turns into a stud. He has the tools to become that. For me anything less than a stud D will hurt lol

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Honestly I used to think that too but I don't think so anymore. Michkov is too good, has me salivating lol. We'd figure the D out some other way but hopefully reinbacher turns into a stud. He has the tools to become that. For me anything less than a stud D will hurt lol

I don't think Hughes and Gorton ever doubted his talent, there clearly was something that they knew about that told them that he was not right for the culture of this team.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Breakaway goals and deflections don't constitute beer league goals....why indulge in such copium for a meaningless exhibition game? The Habs were the better team but lost the game on goals that would have required heroic stops......it happens.

Double deflection, screened goals going in are "weak" goals consistently in the gdt, so doing that for a prospect not really associated with the team is easy pickin's.





Will have to see how Reinbacher does in pre-season, but starting the season in Laval and ending in Montreal seems like a real possibility.

Between the Habs always getting hurt and potential trades, he will be here by the end of the season I think

 

[Beer and Chips]

So after watching most of the game again a couple things stood out for me.
Reinbacher was fine very good in fact. I'm still trying to get my head around the strategy of using him so often on the left side in the Dzone. They certainly didn't do that with Mailloux and Hutson.
Did we want to see Engstrom on RD? I hope they switch pairings tomorrow just because.

I paid very close attention to our forwards and there were plenty of issues. Jared Davidson played well but was the lone standout on that line. Xhekaj was terrible on the dot and I didn't like the general lack of offensive creativity from that line. Thorpe scored the one goal but seriously it was all Lane Hutson. I can't recall seeing forwards never mind Dmen pulling off that button hook move after avoiding an off side to keep the play alive 95% would have dumped the puck.

I though Beck's line was good when matched up against Minten but Vincent didn't play the matchup game for most of the evening. I would have liked Heineman to take the puck to the net on those two occasions he opted to shoot. Farrell had the one assist but was not really in sync with his line mates. They did seem to get better towards the end of the game but we need more from him.

I don't have to tell anyone how passive and useless our PK was. It's easy to blame the goaltender but we allowed them far too much uncontested time and space. Wrong players deployed or just a bad concept over all?

Have to wonder how much Vincent knows about our prospects, who wouldn't put Beck against the top line?

 

[sansabri]

couldn't care less about Michkov. yeah, lots of offense/creativity but look at our RD without Reiny - it's abysmal. can't build a team by playing all our guys on their off-side

 

[morhilane]

Have to wonder how much Vincent knows about our prospects, who wouldn't put Beck against the top line?

Vincent told the kids to play their games, that was the gameplan.

 

[Rapala]

Have to wonder how much Vincent knows about our prospects, who wouldn't put Beck against the top line?

He wasn't trying to play a matchup game and it seemed to me Toronto made an effort to get Minten/Cowan against Larose/Savoie.

 

[NORiculous]

Be great if you want Toronto success.

That narrative is weak at best. It all comes down to cap managment. Hughes has shown he is a master at cap management, so far.

Fact is that having a team with no superstar isn’t a sustainable model to compete continuously.

Most team that have been continuously competing for the cup in the last 20+ years, have had 2 or 3. The only except that won a cup is st.Louis, and that was clearly a Cinderella run.

That said, you still need to surround correctly the game breaking players. Learning to win is also hard and takes time. We see this in EDM even if they mismanaged the cap with Nurse.

Just imagine EDM with a cap managed like Hughes is managing the Habs cap…

 

[Mudz]

That narrative is weak at best. It all comes down to cap managment. Hughes has shown he is a master at cap management, so far.

Fact is that having a team with no superstar isn’t a sustainable model to compete continuously.

Most team that have been continuously competing for the cup in the last 20+ years, have had 2 or 3. The only except that won a cup is st.Louis, and that was clearly a Cinderella run.

That said, you still need to surround correctly the game breaking players. Learning to win is also hard and takes time. We see this in EDM even if they mismanaged the cap with Nurse.

Just imagine EDM with a cap managed like Hughes is managing the Habs cap…

Fact is Michkov is no superstar but Reinbacher is.

 

[HabzSauce]

I don't think Hughes and Gorton ever doubted his talent, there clearly was something that they knew about that told them that he was not right for the culture of this team.

I feel the same, there was clearly something that turned Habs off....

But yea talent is undeniable.

 

[NORiculous]

Fact is Michkov is no superstar but Reinbacher is.

Even if I think that in the situation the team was when making the pick, that it was a mistake, I do think Reinbacher will be very useful.

I don’t think calling him a superstar will age well though. Even Hughes said he was a #2 D.

 

[Habs]

I feel the same, there was clearly something that turned Habs off....

But yea talent is undeniable.

Probably that creepy psychologist the Habs use told them not to pick Michkov. Maybe he asked him 'if you were a wheelbarrow, would you rather be used to haul horse poop or dog poop' and Michkov said 'dog poop'.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

I feel the same, there was clearly something that turned Habs off....

But yea talent is undeniable.

I think the rumor that came out the previous draft year that Montreal wouldn't be taking Russians had some truth to it. Not only did we not take any Russians that year but we traded our only Russian player away at the draft. Last year we were the only team in a while that didn't have a single Russian player in the NHL or AHL.

Obviously the Habs changed their attitude, but by the time Michkov came along it was too late to really sell him on the Habs. People say it is likely that Michkov didn't want to meet with us - if so that is a failure on management for turning a notoriously Russian-friendly city into a place he wouldn't consider.

Probably that creepy psychologist the Habs use told them not to pick Michkov. Maybe he asked him 'if you were a wheelbarrow, would you rather be used to haul horse poop or dog poop' and Michkov said 'dog poop'.
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In all seriousness he probably asked him some BS about his dad dying and fighting in the russian army

 

[Jaynki]

I don't think its that much about how Michkov turned the Habs brass off.

I think its more about top pair RHD scarcity and Reinbacher overall profile.

A 6ft4 RHD who skates like him, have his reach and his transition ability is a potential absolute homerun pick.

Chi just did it with Levshunov/Demidov.

Nemec above Cooley/Wright.

3RHD above any LD in 2024, and etc. Etc.

Team always overpay for those type, see Hall vs Larsson.

See TML with Tanev who was a huge necessity.

Our own prospect pool is an evideence of this.

An abundance of top LHD with various interesting profile. 3 RHD one we had because of legal shits, the other one top 5 and one who is not looking so hot right now(barron).

Reinbacher is extremely underappreciated and may be one of our highest paid player in not too long.

 

[NORiculous]

I don't think Hughes and Gorton ever doubted his talent, there clearly was something that they knew about that told them that he was not right for the culture of this team.

The fact that by not picking him (Michkov), the team was going down an unsustainable model to compete continuously; was a huge huge risk. Much bigger risk then the risk of Michkov not coming to the NHL.

But I can understand if after some debate they went with the “safer” pick. Slaf had not yet shown anything and having your two 1st pick bust would probably not be very favourable… It was still a mistake but an understandably human one.

Them being unanimous about it is where I have a major problem. It show lack of different visions, that are needed when building a successful team, to cover the blind spots.

If we think about the winning models of the past 20+ years, they all have 2 or 3 superstars. At the time, Habs had no one apparent and the team was on verge of progressing in the standings, making a top pick become less and less likely. (Can you really plan a season ending injury by Dach, etc. )

Reinbacher will be a good player though. He will be very useful. Hughes said he has a #2 D ceiling. He will be an important player but he isn’t the player that changes the model in which the Habs were in.