Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[salbutera]

Nobody thinks Reinbacher has the offense that Seider has.

obviously Habs feel he’s got makings of top pairing Dman…

That team was built on a weekend and using a clean slate, not to mention the leverage they held by being able to select at will, several solid unprotected players from their counterparts’ rosters.

Having the Habs completely disband their roster and giving them the same privileges Vegas had, would also be a great way to fill needs I suppose.

And the benefit of being in the ultimate geographical locale in NHL - no state tax and cheap luxury cost of living

 

[Whitesnake]

That team was built on a weekend and using a clean slate, not to mention the leverage they held by being able to select at will, several solid unprotected players from their counterparts’ rosters.

Having the Habs completely disband their roster and giving them the same privileges Vegas had, would also be a great way to fill needs I suppose.

People use Vegas as an example of big guys that succeed. I'm saying that what did it isn't picks, it's trades.

I will always say that it's stupid that size is the most important thing. I'd pick 20 Caufield. And then trade 15 of them for needs.

obviously Habs feel he’s got makings of top pairing Dman…

I will tell you that every pick picked by every scout and head scouts in the history of scouting was done with the idea that they each become a player. Doesn't make it right. So yeah, you have to hope, as a fan, that the guy that was picked No5 ahead of huge offensive talent WILL bring a real 2 way game as a top 2 pairing.

A 2nd pairing d-man will NOT be enough.

 

[Goldenhands]

Nobody thinks Reinbacher has the offense that Seider has.

I do. In fact Reinbacher displayed better offensive tools in his draft year than Seider did.

Kid has been bothered by a knee injury at the WC and another one early on this season, Once again, some Habs fans looking at the stats to downgrade their own prospects, whats new?

Having him in a developmental league like the AHL next year will be a proper environment to evaluate his progress.

BTW, how do you like Mesar this year, now that he is producing?

 

[montreal]

Has anyone watched Orville play recently? How’s Johan Reinbastian Bacher doing?

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

What an absolute stud.

Like our D looks pretty abysmal and this guy fits what we need to a tee and people are going on and on with the draft fomo.

That was an absolute clinic he put on in that video. That’s a D man that you win with in the playoffs 10/10.

 

[admiralcadillac]

What an absolute stud.

Like our D looks pretty abysmal and this guy fits what we need to a tee and people are going on and on with the draft fomo.

That was an absolute clinic he put on in that video. That’s a D man that you win with in the playoffs 10/10.

I don’t think the D looks abysmal moving forward.

 

[Jabba11]

What an absolute stud.

Like our D looks pretty abysmal and this guy fits what we need to a tee and people are going on and on with the draft fomo.

That was an absolute clinic he put on in that video. That’s a D man that you win with in the playoffs 10/10.

I like what I see from him. Can't wait to see him at the WJC.

Hopefully he can be in Laval next year

 

[David Suzuki]

I like what I see from him. Can't wait to see him at the WJC.

Hopefully he can be in Laval next year

austria got relegated so he won’t be at the world juniors

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I don’t think the D looks abysmal moving forward.

Oh not moving forward but the D as a whole right now

 

[Whitesnake]

I do. In fact Reinbacher displayed better offensive tools in his draft year than Seider did.

Kid has been bothered by a knee injury at the WC and another one early on this season, Once again, some Habs fans looking at the stats to downgrade their own prospects, whats new?

Having him in a developmental league like the AHL next year will be a proper environment to evaluate his progress.

BTW, how do you like Mesar this year, now that he is producing?

Yeah, some downgrade, some wear those rose-colored glasses till they happen to be wrong and they never talk about how wrong they were again. I know the song.

I OBVIOUSLY didn't talk about both guys D-1 years. I didn't follow Seider much in his draft year. Yet, D+1. if we do look at how he played AND the stats, his AHL numbers were awesome.

But somehow, you, by watching him extensively in Kloten in the Swiss league (yeah right), with limited goals to show for for quite a few years now, have been able to analyse both players and see that Reinbacher had better offensive tools?

How do I like Mesar? lol. Still the same player. That does what he's suppose to be doing D+1 after having played in a men's league. Better he does it than doesn't do it though. But in no way does it change what I think he will be or won't be at the NHL level in a few years. He needs to improve big time. Or else...I won't be the one that keeps him out from the NHL....the coach will.

In essence, for the people in the back, saying that there was probably better options at the pick we selected does NOT mean that he is a bad player. He should be a good one. I see easily a 2nd pairing guy. To me, he has to improve from that if not, it will not be a good pick unless....everybody else after that falters. If so, it means we've overrated the entire draft and finally Reinbacher WAS the better option.

We picked him CAUSE he was a right d-man. I've seen saying how I hate pick for needs since I joined in. I have no idea how people that are here for quite some time are surprised by my take.

 

[Cubebrick]

IMO, the kid is not currently put under the best of circumstance and disposition in his D+1 year as he is asked to carry a huge load on his shoulder from the back end of a team that is an absolute dumpster fire this season. Plus he's returning from an injury and is about 15 games late. So I'm not expecting any highlight reel stuff.

The encouraging thing and what should be built upon is Kloten more than often looks much better when he is on the ice than not.

 

[Jaynki]

I do. In fact Reinbacher displayed better offensive tools in his draft year than Seider did.

Kid has been bothered by a knee injury at the WC and another one early on this season, Once again, some Habs fans looking at the stats to downgrade their own prospects, whats new?

Having him in a developmental league like the AHL next year will be a proper environment to evaluate his progress.

BTW, how do you like Mesar this year, now that he is producing?

I appreciate your post and your prospect insight a lot.

I mainly want to comment on Mesar.

Personally, i think he is doing what he should be doing as a 1st RD pick in his D+2 in the CHL.

I am not incredibly high until he cement a spot on the team next year, if he does. How he shows up for his D+3 will tell us a lot on him going forward.

Finally, i don't know if Mesar will keep it up, but if he does, its pretty incredible how the fanbase is on him versus Roy when he is doing similar to Roy D+2

 

[Goldenhands]

Yeah, some downgrade, some wear those rose-colored glasses till they happen to be wrong and they never talk about how wrong they were again. I know the song.

I OBVIOUSLY didn't talk about both guys D-1 years. I didn't follow Seider much in his draft year. Yet, D+1. if we do look at how he played AND the stats, his AHL numbers were awesome.

But somehow, you, by watching him extensively in Kloten in the Swiss league (yeah right), with limited goals to show for for quite a few years now, have been able to analyse both players and see that Reinbacher had better offensive tools?

How do I like Mesar? lol. Still the same player. That does what he's suppose to be doing D+1 after having played in a men's league. Better he does it than doesn't do it though. But in no way does it change what I think he will be or won't be at the NHL level in a few years. He needs to improve big time. Or else...I won't be the one that keeps him out from the NHL....the coach will.

In essence, for the people in the back, saying that there was probably better options at the pick we selected does NOT mean that he is a bad player. He should be a good one. I see easily a 2nd pairing guy. To me, he has to improve from that if not, it will not be a good pick unless....everybody else after that falters. If so, it means we've overrated the entire draft and finally Reinbacher WAS the better option.

We picked him CAUSE he was a right d-man. I've seen saying how I hate pick for needs since I joined in. I have no idea how people that are here for quite some time are surprised by my take.

There is a poster on this board with an extraordinary memory making sure to remember all my "bad" takes, so you can be sure that if Im wrong on something, you will hear about that.

I had Reinbacher ranked 5th on my list before the draft, it can be checked, I had him over Smith and any other fowards left, so accusing me to be biased when comes to the kid is irrational since I have been pretty high on him since like last december. In february, I posted something in the draft thread to the effect that I wouldnt be surprised if Reinbacher was the Habs guy. Ive been one of the first, if not the first to rank him as high as 5th on my list. I wore the pink coloured glasses way before Reinbacher got drafted late june.

As for Seider, I had him ranked 4th on my final list in his draft year, something that can be found in the draft threads as well. No one on HF or any scouting services had Seider ranked as high as I did.

Seider was more physical and more advanced defensively than Reinbacher was, on the other side, Reinbacher displayed better offensive tools. Both are really high IQ players that showed ton of potential growth, the reason why I ended up ranking both that high.

 

[Goldenhands]

I appreciate your post and your prospect insight a lot.

I mainly want to comment on Mesar.

Personally, i think he is doing what he should be doing as a 1st RD pick in his D+2 in the CHL.

I am not incredibly high until he cement a spot on the team next year, if he does. How he shows up for his D+3 will tell us a lot on him going forward.

Finally, i don't know if Mesar will keep it up, but if he does, its pretty incredible how the fanbase is on him versus Roy when he is doing similar to Roy D+2

Im expecting Mesar to require time, he will likely spend at least 1 full year in the AHL working on his game. I disagree with the lack of efforts takes, most of the times the motor is pretty high, but he has things to work on, like his decision making under pressure, defensive awarenesses but overall the talent level stands out and the weaknesess arent as alarming as some are saying IMO. He is not a complete player and will never be, he was drafted to be a top 6, pts producer, but I think he can be reliable enough down the road to be trusted and become a quality NHLer. Of course, there is still alot of development in front and there is no guarentee, time will tell.

 

[salbutera]

I will tell you that every pick picked by every scout and head scouts in the history of scouting was done with the idea that they each become a player. Doesn't make it right. So yeah, you have to hope, as a fan, that the guy that was picked No5 ahead of huge offensive talent WILL bring a real 2 way game as a top 2 pairing.

A 2nd pairing d-man will NOT be enough.

Every scout in 1980 said Wickenheiser was the 1OA, same in 1993 w Daigle and 1999 w Stefan etc.

 

[red devil]

Reinbacher will be getting a new coach

 

[Whitesnake]

Any chance Kloten trades Reinbacher....what a shitshow.

 

[le_sean]

Nothing worries me about Reinbacher. You can see the skill and intelligence when he plays. He’s just on an atrocious team and is coming back from an injury. Let’s hope his new coach relies on him a lot.

 

[Whitesnake]

Remember when one of the reason we picked Reinbacher was that Fleming was coach.....that's done.

 

[417]

Sometimes going back to Europe to “dominate” isn't always the best path.

Y’all don’t want to hear it though.

 

[montreal]

Sometimes going back to Europe to “dominate” isn't always the best path.

Y’all don’t want to hear it though.

because life isn't a fair tale so things you do don't always work out the way you planned. Doesn't mean taking things slowly is the wrong approach but when you have rushed so many and every time it blows up in your face, the math says try something different.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Sometimes going back to Europe to “dominate” isn't always the best path.

Y’all don’t want to hear it though.

It sure going well for Slaf in NA eh

 

[417]

It sure going well for Slaf in NA eh

Sure is, maybe not as quickly as you wished it was.

because life isn't a fair tale so things you do don't always work out the way you planned. Doesn't mean taking things slowly is the wrong approach but when you have rushed so many and every time it blows up in your face, the math says try something different.

They've also taken things slowly with many and it blew up in their face too. But those are never talked about.

Like you said, things don't always work out the way you planned probably because dvelopment isn't this perfect succession of steps/levels like many think.

 

[26Mats]

That team was built on a weekend and using a clean slate, not to mention the leverage they held by being able to select at will, several solid unprotected players from their counterparts’ rosters.

Having the Habs completely disband their roster and giving them the same privileges Vegas had, would also be a great way to fill needs I suppose.

Vegas did really well with their expansion strategy. Let's see how well Seattle does. They had the same rules to build a team around.

 

[Jaynki]

Remember when one of the reason we picked Reinbacher was that Fleming was coach.....that's done.

Pretty sure that who was the coach of his team held absolutely zero weight in the decision to draft him.