Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Guess]

I am eager to see him called up but in training camp, he failed to cement a spot and its not like there wasnt available. Its prone to change tho as Roy is still young and he is trending nicely.

Now, Slafkovsky is better than Roy yes. Also all the components of our top 6 including slumpy Anderson too.

For the rest, roles have to be taken into context. So yes, Pezzetta is a better 8min/games 4th liner than Roy. Not a more productive AHLer tho and not a better offensive player indeed.

NHL talent dont sleep long in the AHL, Roy is about to be on the clock.

I would say that Roy is already better than Slaf.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I agree.
Good dman?
Yes.
Elite trait? Nope.
Picked too high? Yes.

Picked too high. Garbage. He was going to Arizona if Habs didn't take him. Teams that wanted Montreal's pick may have been after him too.

 

[Jaynki]

I would say that Roy is already better than Slaf.

Im not surprised. Its even a popular takes on HFhabs.

I believe Roy would be in the NHL if that was the case, especially since it appear so obvious.

HFHabs is down on a 19 years old already NHL regulars and who has played ~25% of his ELC.

HFHabs is high on a D+3 who has yet to crack an NHL roster. And a weak roster with dubious depth.

One is a freak of nature, the other has dubious athleticism.

I would bet very strong on the former and go moderate on the latter and that is because of his spectacular start because he is on the Charles Hudon highway, not the Nick Suzuki highway. Its bound to change tho because i expect Roy to be called up soon if he keeps up and then the rubber will meet the road.

I would just not state with confidence that Roy is better than Slaf.

 

[Guess]

Im not surprised. Its even a popular takes on HFhabs.

I believe Roy would be in the NHL if that was the case, especially since it appear so obvious.

HFHabs is down on a 19 years old already NHL regulars and who has played ~25% of his ELC.

HFHabs is high on a D+3 who has yet to crack an NHL roster. And a weak roster with dubious depth.

One is a freak of nature, the other has dubious athleticism.

I would bet very strong on the former and go moderate on the latter and that is because of his spectacular start because he is on the Charles Hudon highway, not the Nick Suzuki highway. Its bound to change tho because i expect Roy to be called up soon if he keeps up and then the rubber will meet the road.

I would just not state with confidence that Roy is better than Slaf.

Slaf is still learning how to use his body, Roy just needs to continue working on his skating but it won't hold him back at the NHL level, his IQ is too high. Slaf is younger and way more raw, his awareness is so much lower than Roy's, I am sure that Roy would adapt to the NHL level way faster. I'm not saying that Roy will be better than Slaf, but right now I believe that he is.

I'm ok with keeping Roy down because he's getting top minutes there, but Slaf should be down there too.

 

[Jaynki]

I agree.
Good dman?
Yes.
Elite trait? Nope.
Picked too high? Yes.

In 95% of the draft a dman is picked top 5. More often than not, way before 5.

Why do you think he was picked too high?

Slaf is still learning how to use his body, Roy just needs to continue working on his skating but it won't hold him back at the NHL level, his IQ is too high. Slaf is younger and way more raw, his awareness is so much lower than Roy's, I am sure that Roy would adapt to the NHL level way faster. I'm not saying that Roy will be better than Slaf, but right now I believe that he is.

I'm ok with keeping Roy down because he's getting top minutes there, but Slaf should be down there too.

I respect your opinion and i do understand the point you make.

Personally, i believe NHL talent don't sleep long in the AHL.

If he is an NHL talent, I expect Roy to be called soon and then we will have a way better frame to evaluate.

Slaf is still learning how to use his body, Roy just needs to continue working on his skating but it won't hold him back at the NHL level, his IQ is too high. Slaf is younger and way more raw, his awareness is so much lower than Roy's, I am sure that Roy would adapt to the NHL level way faster. I'm not saying that Roy will be better than Slaf, but right now I believe that he is.

I'm ok with keeping Roy down because he's getting top minutes there, but Slaf should be down there too.

I respect your opinion and i do understand the point you make.

Personally, i believe NHL talent don't sleep long in the AHL.

If he is an NHL talent, I expect Roy to be called soon and then we will have a way better frame to evaluate.

 

[admiralcadillac]

Has anyone watched Orville play recently? How’s Johan Reinbastian Bacher doing?

 

[David Suzuki]

Just saw the leading scorer on his team lol he was a bad player in the QMJHL who I saw play a lot because he played here, ffs what a shits how.

Can they get him to the AHL? This is going to be a wasted year if they don't act quickly or things turn around. I'm not the type to be reactionary like this, but man this isn't looking good at all. Not just a reflection of him but his team looks pathetic.

 

[Hacketts]

Has anyone watched Orville play recently? How’s Johan Reinbastian Bacher doing?

still waiting for him to pop.

 

[Guess]

In 95% of the draft a dman is picked top 5. More often than not, way before 5.

Why do you think he was picked too high?



I respect your opinion and i do understand the point you make.

Personally, i believe NHL talent don't sleep long in the AHL.

If he is an NHL talent, I expect Roy to be called soon and then we will have a way better frame to evaluate.



I respect your opinion and i do understand the point you make.

Personally, i believe NHL talent don't sleep long in the AHL.

If he is an NHL talent, I expect Roy to be called soon and then we will have a way better frame to evaluate.

I hope Roy isn't sent up until at least the end of the season, if Laval is guaranteed or out of a playoff spot. He can try to make the team next year, the yo-yoing up and down has not worked well for us so far.

A side note about Reinbacher, he was picked that high because he has shown a high probability of becoming a mobile shutdown D, with the a latent abilities to develop an offensive game, but this is a risk, as, he hasn't proven that offensive ability yet.

Much like Slaf, they are really picking raw prospects with traits that they can mould into the best player available at their spot. You can infer on this further with their hiring and leaning heavily on development with Adam Nicholas' hire, and MSL himself saying that he believes hockey IQ can be developed. If they don't get the outcomes they want with these two, I could see their drafting philosophy changing / firings happening. Kent Hughes seems to me like a no-nonsense kind of guy, I don't see him having Bergevin-like indecisiveness over several years until changes are made.

 

[DAChampion]

I am eager to see him called up but in training camp, he failed to cement a spot and its not like there wasnt available.

There was no spot available for Roy at the start of the season.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

meanwhile in russia....kidding kidding

or am i...

 

[Doublechin]

Kid is a very good d-men. I just don't see the exceptional trait he has to made him a top 5 pick. He will be serviceable. So will picks picked later in the 1st and 2nd.

This is just my take without the power of hindsight. Later on, if he flourishes, the people who keeps dissing people that uses hindsight to judge a head scout work, will use the same hindsight to say how wrong we were.

Right now, I see a good prospect picked too early.

Even our brilliant GM seemed to think he's a 2nd pairing GM, I'll never understand the reasoning behind such mediocre and safe desicion making. The selections of Slaf and Reinbacher are what is slowly killing my interest in hockey.

 

[Whitesnake]

Picked too high. Garbage. He was going to Arizona if Habs didn't take him. Teams that wanted Montreal's pick may have been after him too.

Says who? By the way....IF Arizona wanted him....who is it not a sign of picked too high? What if both teams would ahve picked him too high? Let's say for example that in 2018....we would have preferred Barrett Hayton. To which some will have said...picked too high. Your response ''Well we know for sure Arizona would have picked him'' (and they did).....if there's still a chance that he was picked too high????

 

[Whitesnake]

Even our brilliant GM seemed to think he's a 2nd pairing GM, I'll never understand the reasoning behind such mediocre and safe desicion making. The selections of Slaf and Reinbacher are what is slowly killing my interest in hockey.

To me, the thought process was this:
Reinbacher: Safe. Righty d-man. Never have too many good D's. Doing great in a pro league.
Michkov: Risky. Russian. Another small player. Might not translate
Benson: Another small player.
Leonard: Could be the product of....

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Daniil But was not higher than any of the forwards.....

 

[Gravity]

To me, the thought process was this:
Reinbacher: Safe. Righty d-man. Never have too many good D's. Doing great in a pro league.
Michkov: Risky. Russian. Another small player. Might not translate
Benson: Another small player.
Leonard: Could be the product of....

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Daniil But was not higher than any of the forwards.....

I see so we're drafting for size then....

 

[26Mats]

To me, the thought process was this:
Reinbacher: Safe. Righty d-man. Never have too many good D's. Doing great in a pro league.
Michkov: Risky. Russian. Another small player. Might not translate
Benson: Another small player.
Leonard: Could be the product of....

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Daniil But was not higher than any of the forwards.....

I think they also had Vegas's cup winning team in mind and the importance of big dmen who can skate and have hockey sense.

I would have gone Michkov. But I don't know the prospects well enough. Hope for the best.

 

[NORiculous]

To me, the thought process was this:
Reinbacher: Safe. Righty d-man. Never have too many good D's. Doing great in a pro league.
Michkov: Risky. Russian. Another small player. Might not translate
Benson: Another small player.
Leonard: Could be the product of....

Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Daniil But was not higher than any of the forwards.....

Well… his season in the KHL says otherwise.

On another subject, the Yotes should not be an indication for knowing if Reinbacher was picked too early. They are hardly a model.

Even if I would have gone with Michkov, I would understand them picking Reinbacher… had they not been unanimous about it.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I see so we're drafting for size then....

You see what size has done for Vegas. We had no answer for it last game. They just leaned on us.

 

[Natey]

Finally, Reinbacher should had stayed with Laval.

He didn't want too.

 

[salbutera]

I see so we're drafting for size then....

No … top pairing minute eating Dman who can play all game situations (especially righty) is the toughest position to fill, whereas W is easier in comparison

Orville Redenbacher was a Seider type move based on projection of player

 

[Whitesnake]

You see what size has done for Vegas. We had no answer for it last game. They just leaned on us.

Tell me the size of the players from Vegas that were top end picks. Yes, you need size. Yes, too many smaller players won't work.

But YES....see Vegas.....most big guys could be added through trades. This is how you fill needs.

No … top pairing minute eating Dman who can play all game situations (especially righty) is the toughest position to fill, whereas W is easier in comparison

Orville Redenbacher was a Seider type move based on projection of player

Nobody thinks Reinbacher has the offense that Seider has.

 

[Ezpz]

Tell me the size of the players from Vegas that were top end picks. Yes, you need size. Yes, too many smaller players won't work.

But YES....see Vegas.....most big guys could be added through trades. This is how you fill needs.


Nobody thinks Reinbacher has the offense that Seider has.

Seider himself isn't looking as great as he did as a rookie either.

 

[cave troll]

I see so we're drafting for size then....

Seems so.
We didn't learn the lessons called Tinordi and McBust. So we did the encore.

 

[Gravity]

You see what size has done for Vegas. We had no answer for it last game. They just leaned on us.

I saw talent dominate us. It was all about puck possession.

No … top pairing minute eating Dman who can play all game situations (especially righty) is the toughest position to fill, whereas W is easier in comparison

Orville Redenbacher was a Seider type move based on projection of player

He better be Seider himself to justify that pick.

 

[Runner77]

But YES....see Vegas.....most big guys could be added through trades. This is how you fill needs.

That team was built on a weekend and using a clean slate, not to mention the leverage they held by being able to select at will, several solid unprotected players from their counterparts’ rosters.

Having the Habs completely disband their roster and giving them the same privileges Vegas had, would also be a great way to fill needs I suppose.