Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[Kobe Armstrong]

Because the aren't many of them, and they speak the same language? That's kinda how that works everywhere... doesn't mean people in 1 group hate people in the other groups lol

No shit, I love how that's exactly what I said

I'm just asking questions stemming from an anthropological curiosity about group dynamics. Is he talking about friend groups or how they are broken up at practice? Neither seem exactly true, hence my confusion, I'm wondering if the article is translated poorly or he is misquoted. Just shoddy anthropological work to not even account for the Euros. What clique was Slaf in?

Yeah, the most time he was here it was a big roster camp with around 70 and then 30 players so i guess he was more talking about this rather than the regular roster guys anyway.

But not that surprising if guys like Savard, RHP or whatever speaks more together than with other guys.

I would assume age and familiarity has more to do with cliques than anything, to be honest

 

[Hinterland]

No shit, I love how that's exactly what I said

I'm just asking questions stemming from an anthropological curiosity about group dynamics. Is he talking about friend groups or how they are broken up at practice? Neither seem exactly true, hence my confusion, I'm wondering if the article is translated poorly or he is misquoted. Just shoddy anthropological work to not even account for the Euros. What clique was Slaf in?


I would assume age and familiarity has more to do with cliques than anything, to be honest

Exact word by word translation of the article if it helps:

"There are hierarchies and groups. There are the Canadians, the US Americans and the French-speaking Canadians. Things are a bit egotistical. But they also do a lot, go out to eat together, and even watch football. Before the NFL duel between the Buffalo Bills and the Las Vegas Raiders, Reinbacher had to have the rules explained to him."

 

[Miller Time]

How so?

Look up conjecture

 

[Mrb1p]

Look up conjecture

Ok lol

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Exact word by word translation of the article if it helps:

"There are hierarchies and groups. There are the Canadians, the US Americans and the French-speaking Canadians. Things are a bit egotistical. But they also do a lot, go out to eat together, and even watch football. Before the NFL duel between the Buffalo Bills and the Las Vegas Raiders, Reinbacher had to have the rules explained to him."

What do you think a better translation of egotistical is? Perhaps self-focused?

Everyone is trying to outcompete everyone else for a job, but there are team bonding activities at the end of the day

 

[Goldthorpe]

ive played sports my whole life and some people will always click better with others and be closer friends but that dont mean nothing in general most players all get along fine

My shipping day dreams only works if every player is best buds with everyone else.

 

[Goldthorpe]

What do you think a better translation of egotistical is? Perhaps self-focused?

Everyone is trying to outcompete everyone else for a job, but there are team bonding activities at the end of the day

That's how I would read it too.

Austrians (like the Dutch, in my experience), tend to speak their mind sometimes bluntly compared to our NA standards. I wouldn't read more than that.

 

[Redux91]

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Not surprised one bit by the 'pep in his step' after going through an NHL training camp and getting a 'taste' with a couple pre-season games
He wants to kick his dream into overdrive now

To think, some people were bothered we even invited him at all lol..

 

[Goldthorpe]

To think, some people were bothered we even invited him at all lol..

To their defense they feared premature promotion to the big league. But yes, otherwise of course training with NHL players has a good effect, and great to see 'bacher benefiting from the experience.

 

[Ezpz]

I work well even with people I despise. Not everyone needs to be friends.

 

[le_sean]

Curious as to how many empty net goals Benson would have got instead. 2-3?

 

[MasterD]

No shit, I love how that's exactly what I said

I'm just asking questions stemming from an anthropological curiosity about group dynamics. Is he talking about friend groups or how they are broken up at practice? Neither seem exactly true, hence my confusion, I'm wondering if the article is translated poorly or he is misquoted. Just shoddy anthropological work to not even account for the Euros. What clique was Slaf in?


I would assume age and familiarity has more to do with cliques than anything, to be honest

You're grasping at straws. Just because he named 3 groupe doesn't mean that's the exact number, most of those guys literally just met lol I'd bet some of them went from group to group as camp went on

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

You're grasping at straws. Just because he named 3 groupe doesn't mean that's the exact number, most of those guys literally just met lol I'd bet some of them went from group to group as camp went on

I wasn't going to address the crazy straw man fallacy you threw out originally, because that is a full time job on these boards, but "grasping at straws" hahaha

In my initial post I said I wasn't going to read too much into it. I just think it is an interesting assessment of the group dynamic, never did I say I believed the groups were based on geography, that is something Reinbacher said.

I just think it is an interesting assessment from an 18 year old European outsider. Obviously the groups are not segregated, Caufield and Suzuki are attached at the hip. I'm not saying Reinbacher lied or overplayed the situation, just that it is interesting that is how he felt about the situation.

Besides, what does an Austrian kid know about the difference between Wisconsin and Ontario anyway?

 

[The Great Weal]

David "Max Pacioretty" Reinbacher

 

[ZUKI]

I wasn't going to address the crazy straw man fallacy you threw out originally, because that is a full time job on these boards, but "grasping at straws" hahaha

In my initial post I said I wasn't going to read too much into it. I just think it is an interesting assessment of the group dynamic, never did I say I believed the groups were based on geography, that is something Reinbacher said.

I just think it is an interesting assessment from an 18 year old European outsider. Obviously the groups are not segregated, Caufield and Suzuki are attached at the hip. I'm not saying Reinbacher lied or overplayed the situation, just that it is interesting that is how he felt about the situation.

Besides, what does an Austrian kid know about the difference between Wisconsin and Ontario anyway?

What is the difference between Wisconsin and Ontario ?

 

[Goldenhands]

That empty net goal from Reinbacher was insane

Perfect lobe to beat 2 guys trying to block it, it looked easy for him, but this is not, the degree of difficulty was very high, especially from distance like this.

Nice to hear he looked great, will try to watch him tomorrow.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

I think people hear Petry and think of how long it took Petry to arrive, and his relatively short peak and get mad. But I don't see DR taking that long to arrive, and think that he's a smarter player than Petry anyhow.

I always felt Petry was way overrated defensively

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

What is the difference between Wisconsin and Ontario ?

Try and follow along

 

[SlafySZN]

Perfect lobe to beat 2 guys trying to block it, it looked easy for him, but this is not, the degree of difficulty was very high, especially from distance like this.

Nice to hear he looked great, will try to watch him tomorrow.

He did look great!

Had a lot of jump and tried some things offensively. Almost got his first goal in the first period.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I always felt Petry was way overrated defensively

Petry stinks defensively personally if rein becomes Petry I'll be disappointed , with what he's shown at 18 I think he becomes way better , Petry wasent even good until he was in his mid late twenties.

And I'm a huge Petry fan I just think rein can be better

 

[NotProkofievian]

Was a pretty nice empty net goal to be fair.

 

[David Suzuki]

He said that there were three bigger groups in the Montreal training camp. US americans, Canadians and French Canadians

We should have claimed Phil Myers so he could bridge the gap as a proud Acadien.

 

[dinodebino]

Nice shot for the goal.

 

[Hinterland]

What do you think a better translation of egotistical is? Perhaps self-focused?

Everyone is trying to outcompete everyone else for a job, but there are team bonding activities at the end of the day

Not really. The word used in the article (paraphrase of what Reinbacher apparently told the writer) is "egoistisch" which could even be translated to "egoistic" or "selfish". I don't doubt that's what Reinbacher said. This has nothing to do with the actual NHL team but at the bigger camp there are guys fighting for jobs...not just for jobs on the actual NHL team. Of course they're being selfish. Also keep in mind we're talking about the impressions of an 18yo kid who may not have fully understood everything going on in his 1st NHL camp.

 

[Toene]

Petry stinks defensively personally if rein becomes Petry I'll be disappointed , with what he's shown at 18 I think he becomes way better , Petry wasent even good until he was in his mid late twenties.

And I'm a huge Petry fan I just think rein can be better

Petry wasn't that bad. But he sure had brain cramps.