Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[Boss Man Hughes]

It can’t be that fans have legitimate disagreements with certain decisions and results — Newhook and Michkov, for instance— no, they’re simply too inexperienced and naive to understand the genius masterplan. Great comment.

Newhook fine. There is no argument re Michkov because we have no idea why they passed on him.

 

[JianYang]

Joe Thornton versus Samsonov is effectively an interesting case study. Both drafted top 8 in 1997 by Boston and both started in the NHL at 18 years old playing for the same team / lineup.

18 years old playing for the same team at the same time :

Joe Thornton 7 points in 55 games
Samsonov 47 points in 81 games

19 years old playing for the same team

Joe Thornton 41 points in 81 games
Samsonov 51 points in 79 games

20 years old

Thornton 60 points in 81 games
Samsonov 45 points in 77 games

21 years old

Thornton 71 points in 72 games
Samsonov 75 points in 82 games

22 years old

Thornton 68 points in 66 games
Samsonov 70 points in 74 games

After that starting at age 23 that it's all in Joe Thornton's favor with Joe having a 101 points season and Samsonov starting his long struggle. This is why i always prefer to wait 3 years before anointing a young player. Not rare to see the new toy effect not lasting.

Yep, the other element of this case is that Thornton was the big uncoordinated, lanky guy while samsonov was the opposite of that.

It is also notable that samsonov won rookie of the year but yes, the oscillating trajectory between the two until thornton really took off around year 6 or so is notable too.

 

[River Meadow]

Imagine if Reinbacher turns out to be one of the best Dmen in the NHL...

Y'all gonna eat so much crow.

 

[Habs]

Will ‘ the reason we never drafted Michkov’ play again this year or is he another season away ?

 

[Heffyhoof]

Patience for our underperforming teenagers… cruel mockery for their underperforming teenagers.

That’s the way it goes.

Good lord you take things way too seriously. Heaven forbid that Montreal Canadiens fans would be rooting for our prospects and not crying over the new flavour of the month and then promptly forgetting about that flavour and never eating any crow, just more crying.

 

[River Meadow]

Will ‘ the reason we never drafted Michkov’ play again this year or is he another season away ?

 

[NORiculous]

Imagine if Reinbacher turns out to be one of the best Dmen in the NHL...

Y'all gonna eat so much crow.

imagine extraterrestrials invade earth only to give everyone money.

 

[Habs]

Imagine if Reinbacher turns out to be one of the best Dmen in the NHL...

Y'all gonna eat so much crow.

If that happens I’ll buy you a Reinbacher jersey

 

[River Meadow]

imagine extraterrestrials invade earth only to give everyone money.

Which scenario is more likely to happen?

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

This season is further proof on why the Reinbacher pick made sense and still makes sense. Our two biggest needs right now are RHD and a legit top 6 centre behind Suzuki (which Dach still has a chance to claim).

It never made sense, and will never make sense, to choose him over the most obvious BPA available to the Habs in the last decade. We need game-breaking talent, regardless of position.

Dach is not the right guy, even if by some miracle, he averages 50-55 points throughout the course of his career, he is a liability in his own end.

Hutson has already shown he can be a top 4 D and Guhle looks much better on the left side, while on the right side we've been stuck with Matheson and a declining Savard. There aren't many options out there to find minute eating RHD so the best thing to do is try and draft those guys who can play 20+ minutes a night.

We just gave one in Kovacevic, he was available on waiver and we moved him for a 4th, maybe they are not that hard to find.

Wingers are much easier and cheaper to find, even before the season we got paid a 2nd to take a 30 goal scorer.

We got paid even more to take Monahan a 60-point center, they must be easy to find too...

 

[CHfan1]

Reinbacher has resumed skating but without equipment.

 

[morhilane]

Reinbacher has resumed skating but without equipment.

That means he's on track for the timeline they gave back on October 1st.
Also, I think it's kinda stupid to write an article full of tweets.

 

[EveryDay]

Reinbacher has resumed skating but without equipment.

I'm guessing we're going to see Reinbacher in March.

 

[Shutdown]

i hope people don't forget about the impact he had in Laval when he came over from Switzerland last year. it's easy to get down on him in favour of other options at the draft or write him off, but he showed something as soon as he stepped on NA soil as a 19 year old.

 

[Frankenheimer]

Joe Thornton versus Samsonov is effectively an interesting case study. Both drafted top 8 in 1997 by Boston and both started in the NHL at 18 years old playing for the same team / lineup.

18 years old playing for the same team at the same time :

Joe Thornton 7 points in 55 games
Samsonov 47 points in 81 games

19 years old playing for the same team

Joe Thornton 41 points in 81 games
Samsonov 51 points in 79 games

20 years old

Thornton 60 points in 81 games
Samsonov 45 points in 77 games

21 years old

Thornton 71 points in 72 games
Samsonov 75 points in 82 games

22 years old

Thornton 68 points in 66 games
Samsonov 70 points in 74 games

After that starting at age 23 it's all in Joe Thornton's favor with Joe having a 101 points season and Samsonov starting his long struggle. This is why i always prefer to wait 3 years before anointing a young player. Not rare to see the new toy effect not lasting.

This is a very good post and clarifies something I had wanted to say in another thread, which is that quick development does not necessarily mean better player in the long term.

 

[Andrei79]

Good news. Hope his skating doesn't take as long as Dach to come back. What's sad about all of this is he looked bigger and even faster at rookie and training camp. Hopefully, his offseason is significantly more productive than Dachs was.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

i hope people don't forget about the impact he had in Laval when he came over from Switzerland last year. it's easy to get down on him in favour of other options at the draft or write him off, but he showed something as soon as he stepped on NA soil as a 19 year old.

That goal in his first game was gorgeous. Especially when he never flashed that kind of skill in Switzerland and that’s not exactly his game.

Imagine replacing Savard with essentially a right handed version of Guhle (very comparable upside) and what that would do for our D corps and somehow being upset about that.

Yet somehow not having anyone to replace Savard and swapping out Laine for Michkov would make us SOOO much better.

 

[morhilane]

Good news. Hope his skating doesn't take as long as Dach to come back. What's sad about all of this is he looked bigger and even faster at rookie and training camp. Hopefully, his offseason is significantly more productive than Dachs was.

Reinbacher should play this season, unlike Dach. That will help a lot.

 

[1909]

Reinbacher should play this season, unlike Dach. That will help a lot.

Yeah. If he could play at the end of the AHL season + Playoffs, that would be a good return. He would be ready for next September.

 

[montreal]

I'm guessing we're going to see Reinbacher in March.

As long as there's no set backs, I could see 5-6 weeks from now, of course they will be smart and not rush him but he went under the knife on Oct 1st and they said 5-6 months so 17 days it will be 5 months, so it sounds like he's right on track.

Here's the breakdown for Laval,

March - 12 gms
April - 9 gms

The reg season ends 4-20 and so the playoffs should start 4-23 and Laval should easily make them so we know he could end up getting around 21 games if he's back by March 1st plus however far they go in the playoffs.

 

[Benstheman]

Reinbacher should play this season, unlike Dach. That will help a lot.

Yeah and the extent of the injury is not the same as Dach if I'm not mistaken. IMO, he makes the Habs lineup to start the next season no problem.

As long as there's no set backs, I could see 5-6 weeks from now, of course they will be smart and not rush him but he went under the knife on Oct 1st and they said 5-6 months so 17 days it will be 5 months, so it sounds like he's right on track.

Here's the breakdown for Laval,

March - 12 gms
April - 9 gms

The reg season ends 4-20 and so the playoffs should start 4-23 and Laval should easily make them so we know he could end up getting around 21 games if he's back by March 1st plus however far they go in the playoffs.

If Habs make the playoffs, do you think ...

 

[montreal]

If Habs make the playoffs, do you think ...

We have to see when he's back, how he looks and go from there but it would seem highly unlikely they would rush him. He'll have all off-season to work on things and get ready for camp in Sept.

 

[Benstheman]

We have to see when he's back, how he looks and go from there but it would seem highly unlikely they would rush him. He'll have all off-season to work on things and get ready for camp in Sept.

I agree.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Don't. Rush. This. Kid.

 

[HabsMD97]

Do we even know what exactly was the nature of the knee issue? Was it a broken bone, torn muscle, etc.?