Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[BehindTheTimes]

In 2023 the team had need for everything but LD. They didn't pass in Michkov based on need, they passed because they think he is a headcase on top of his long KHL deal.

Head case? Anything to cope ?

 

[River Meadow]

In 2023 the team had need for everything but LD. They didn't pass in Michkov based on need, they passed because they think he is a headcase on top of his long KHL deal.

Habs believed in SKA coach' Roman Rotenberg criticisms of Michkov.

Turns out Roman Rotenberg is an absolute psycho.

R.I.P

 

[OnTheRun]

Head case? Anything to cope ?

What are you asking here? It was their conclusion that he had a bad attitude.

Habs believed in SKA coach' Roman Rotenberg criticisms of Michkov.

Turns out Roman Rotenberg is an absolute psycho.

R.I.P

They generally talk to teammates and coaches (current and former) for that. So whatever they heard didn't dissipate their issues.

 

[Sorinth]

I think it depends.

In the top 5 of a draft (or even top 10)... on a player of Michkov's caliber...

I would say it's foolish to go positional there.

It's not a question of going for position or not, it's simply that position and handedness have an impact on how you rate a player.

Let's say for example we are ranking prospects on a scale of 1-100 sort of like the video games do it. Being a RD vs LD might be the difference between a player being ranked 80 vs 85. And just as a note this isn't meant to be representative of Reinbacher's rating, it's just for show.

 

[River Meadow]

It's not a question of going for position or not, it's simply that position and handedness have an impact on how you rate a player.

Let's say for example we are ranking prospects on a scale of 1-100 sort of like the video games do it. Being a RD vs LD might be the difference between a player being ranked 80 vs 85. And just as a note this isn't meant to be representative of Reinbacher's rating, it's just for show.

I get what you mean, but,

So far their estimation of what Reinbacher would continue to progress to and become, ain't looking so hot, and it looks even worse when you compare it to some other players from his draft class who we passed on.

 

[ZUKI]

Head case? Anything to cope ?

I just listen to a blog few minutes ago; they were talking about Mitchkov that would have told to few teams he wouldn't report to them if they select him. I don't know why, but it seems that he wanted to play for the Flyer. I have read the same story at the draft time. You then add hist prima donna character, it was clear that he doesn't fit with the Habs culture.

 

[ZUKI]

I get what you mean, but,

So far their estimation of what Reinbacher would continue to progress to and become, ain't looking so hot, and it looks even worse when you compare it to some other players from his draft class who we passed on.

true that he isn't very good on the ice this season

 

[Sorinth]

I get what you mean, but,

So far their estimation of what Reinbacher would continue to progress to and become, ain't looking so hot, and it looks even worse when you compare it to some other players from his draft class who we passed on.

Sure but your comparing kids who are actually playing vs a kid who is sitting out with an injury. It's never going to be a fair comparison.

And let's not forget the 3 guys drafted ahead of Reinbacher, Smith, Fantilli, and Carlsson are also not looking so hot, especially compared to Michkov. It's early to throw in the towel for those 3, and the same applies if not moreso to Reinbacher.

 

[River Meadow]

Sure but your comparing kids who are actually playing vs a kid who is sitting out with an injury. It's never going to be a fair comparison.

Let's see what happens. I'd love to eat crow on this pick.

And let's not forget the 3 guys drafted ahead of Reinbacher, Smith, Fantilli, and Carlsson are also not looking so hot, especially compared to Michkov. It's early to throw in the towel for those 3, and the same applies if not moreso to Reinbacher.

Tbf,

Michkov was touted as 1a/1b alongside Bedard for a reason.

 

[Saundies]

Demidov is 6ft tall, and Michkov is built like a brick sh*thouse and plays like a bulldog, so size should not be a huge concern especially factoring in the talent level here.

We completely lucked out on getting Demidov at 5. He could have easily been gone at that spot, so we shouldn't act like it was all some grand master plan.

In the top 10, especially top 5, you have to draft the best player, just like we did when we drafted Price at #5 when we didn't need a goalie at all (Theodore just came off of a Vezina win). BPA, BPA, BPA.

Bustbacher has to deliver the goods now or Hughes and company will look like absolute fools.

I'm not saying it was a master plan at all, I'm just saying picking Demidov takes some of the sting of passing on Michkov or even Will Smith (or even Ryan Leonard... again, I hated the Reinbacher pick as much as anyone when it happened and the whole year after).

It's funny to bring up the Price pick because people not only hated that at the time but also for years. Many wanted Halak over Price after 2010 and threw themselves at the chance to bring up Kopitar anytime Price was struggling.

I agree with yours and other poster's assertions that BPA should trump everything but teams don't do it as much as they claim to.

 

[River Meadow]

I'm not saying it was a master plan at all, I'm just saying picking Demidov takes some of the sting of passing on Michkov or even Will Smith (or even Ryan Leonard... again, I hated the Reinbacher pick as much as anyone when it happened and the whole year after).

It's funny to bring up the Price pick because people not only hated that at the time but also for years. Many wanted Halak over Price after 2010 and threw themselves at the chance to bring up Kopitar anytime Price was struggling.

I agree with yours and other poster's assertions that BPA should trump everything but teams don't do it as much as they claim to.

Brother.

 

[Saundies]

Brother.

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You had that meme ready to go so fast I just know it was waiting in a folder somewhere hahaha.

Anyway. I agree with a lot of the things you're saying. I hope he comes back and gets back on track with development. I have serious doubts.

 

[themilosh]

Guys, this RB v Michkov take has got to end. They are incomparable. Reality is plain as day = if we selected Michkov we would have to Sell CC for that RD. There is no room in our top 6 for 2 small sharp shooters. Personally, I would have selected Michkov and traded CC for that RHD (like Jiricek).. it is what it is.. but one thing I notice with every Flyers game... Michkov is a point getter, no different that Debrincat. Great sure, but far from the Holy grail.
And while CC was "probably" the better pick (hence why they selected RB) both MM and CC are just accesory pieces.. neither can change the outcome of a game..

Let it go..

 

[River Meadow]

Guys, this RB v Michkov take has got to end. They are incomparable. Reality is plain as day = if we selected Michkov we would have to Sell CC for that RD. There is no room in our top 6 for 2 small sharp shooters. Personally, I would have selected Michkov and traded CC for that RHD (like Jiricek).. it is what it is.. but one thing I notice with every Flyers game... Michkov is a point getter, no different that Debrincat. Great sure, but far from the Holy grail.
And while CC was "probably" the better pick (hence why they selected RB) both MM and CC are just accesory pieces.. neither can change the outcome of a game..

Let it go..

Michkov is just a point getter, according to you?

Then what is Bedard?

Bedard is a heart and soul guy franchise guy because he's a good ol' Canadian boy?

 

[themilosh]

Michkov is just a point getter, according to you?

Then what is Bedard?

Bedard is a heart and soul guy franchise guy because he's a good ol' Canadian boy?

Michkov is a lown wolf after stats. Bedard, who im not even very high on (bc hes a shrimp) at least pkays for the team.
You'll see, Michkov will become the defacto superstar in Philly and the team will be screwed for a decade..

These type players are a trap for teams.

 

[Jurivan Demidovsky]

His stats before injury:

11gp 2g 3a 5p +6

Pretty dam good for a rookie defenseman in the AHL. Can we give him some time to recover from injury and develop?

 

[OnTheRun]

Michkov is just a point getter, according to you?

Then what is Bedard?

Bedard is a heart and soul guy franchise guy because he's a good ol' Canadian boy?

Too early to says about either player. Plus Bedard is literally playing solo in Chicago.

We'll see when they are placed in a situation where they need to rise to the challenge (ie: playoffs hockey).

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Guys, this RB v Michkov take has got to end. They are incomparable. Reality is plain as day = if we selected Michkov we would have to Sell CC for that RD. There is no room in our top 6 for 2 small sharp shooters. Personally, I would have selected Michkov and traded CC for that RHD (like Jiricek).. it is what it is.. but one thing I notice with every Flyers game... Michkov is a point getter, no different that Debrincat. Great sure, but far from the Holy grail.
And while CC was "probably" the better pick (hence why they selected RB) both MM and CC are just accesory pieces.. neither can change the outcome of a game..

Let it go..

Your post is so incoherent I’m not sure wtf CC has to do with Matvei Michkov, but if this is your coping mechanism, fill your boots. Just don’t post this nonsense for others to read.

 

[MasterD]

That's a possibility. But I'm not seeing the environment being a facot when it comes to these two. You don't think Michkov could thrive playing with Hutson, Suzuki, Caufield, Laine, Slaf, Demidov, etc... You don't think Reinbacher could thrive in Philly?

Do I think Michkov would do good under the Montreal media circus with all we've heard about him? Absolutely not.

But we don't know, probably never will.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Do I think Michkov would do good under the Montreal media circus with all we've heard about him? Absolutely not.

But we don't know, probably never will.

This is just foolish. Of course he would.

 

[themilosh]

Your post is so incoherent I’m not sure wtf CC has to do with Matvei Michkov, but if this is your coping mechanism, fill your boots. Just don’t post this nonsense for others to read.

Whats incoherent? You don't draft a small goal scoring winger while currently employing a small goal scoring winger. The choice was simple:
1)Keep CC, draft RB
2) sell CC for a RHD, and draft MM.

Either or, not both. The team elected to go w8th option 1. It is what it is.. you cant have 2 small wingers in your top 6.. no ands ifs or buts.

 

[SlafySZN]

Michkov isn’t here, time to accept it. He is not a Montreal Canadien. It’s not productive to be kicking and screaming, it won’t change that.

Reinbacher is.

 

[Habs7631]

What’s the timeline for his recovery? Any updates since?

 

[OnTheRun]

What’s the timeline for his recovery? Any updates since?

No updates afaik. Original timeline was 5~6 months on October 1st. So 3~4 months to go.

 

[lou4gehrig]

Michkov is a lown wolf after stats. Bedard, who im not even very high on (bc hes a shrimp) at least pkays for the team.
You'll see, Michkov will become the defacto superstar in Philly and the team will be screwed for a decade..

These type players are a trap for teams.

This is the Reinbacher thread. Who cares who was drafted 2 places after Reinbacher.