Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

Habs

It's going to be a long year
Feb 28, 2002
22,859
17,695
Nope. I disagree with plenty of posts that are sound and a matter of preference.

A bad take is a bad take because it's poorly grounded. That has nothing to do with preferences.

I've been wrong about plenty of prospects insofar as my confidence in their likelihood of reaching their ceiling. But when talking prospects, it's pretty baseless to assert with certainty that a 19 year old will or won't become something. That kind of take is about as useful as claiming with certainty that a coin flip will land head or tails. Hence, poorly grounded.

Fischer? Was decent pick, didn't work out. I appreciated the rationale and still do. Of the 10 players picked after him in the first round, only 4 went on to success at the NHL level.

Kotkaniemi... Also a decent pick. I maintain, like with Galch, that terrible development contributed to his stunted progression. That others picked below him have had a much better U25 career doesn't really change either assessment. I was wrong about how quickly he'd cement himself as a top 6 NHLer, especially after going to Carolina... But frankly, I still think there's a good chance he gets there in his 25-30 seasons... We'll see.

To your question... Yes, absolutely a player can be the "right pick" even if they don't realize their full potential. Was Yakupov the "wrong pick" because many picked after him ended up having a better career? Hindsight is an addictive drug, I get it, but it's pretty silly as a lens to assess a past decision.

Some decisions are poor at the time they are made, others are the right decision with a bad outcome. If one can't understand the difference between the two, it's likely that their ability to make good assessments is quite limited, and their takes likely quite poor.

Does a person who plays the lottery for 20 years instead of investing (in themselves or in a sound portfolio) making a good decision? Does the quality of their decision making improve if they win one day? By your logic, I suppose so :dunno:
You make some valid points
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Miller Time

Habs

It's going to be a long year
Feb 28, 2002
22,859
17,695
Here's a little nugget... I wouldve gone with Michkov myself.

And I doubt I'd have gone with Slaf...

:dunno:
Ha I was torn michkov or Leonard and I was team Cooley. I always enjoy your input , it’s ok to have our little tiffs
 
  • Like
Reactions: Miller Time

Lafleurs Guy

Guuuuuuuy!
Jul 20, 2007
78,682
50,099
Here's a little nugget... I wouldve gone with Michkov myself.

And I doubt I'd have gone with Slaf...

:dunno:
I would’ve taken Michkov and Wright…

But I don’t follow the minor leagues so I can’t be held responsible for my ignorance on that front.

I get why we took him. Hopefully he recovers well. I’m still optimistic that he’ll be a good player for us. Nothing fancy but that’s okay.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Miller Time

River Meadow

Registered User
Mar 29, 2016
7,003
9,389
I would’ve taken Michkov and Wright…

But I don’t follow the minor leagues so I can’t be held responsible for my ignorance on that front.

I get why we took him. Hopefully he recovers well. I’m still optimistic that he’ll be a good player for us. Nothing fancy but that’s okay.

Wright looked atrocious in the playoffs leading up the draft. Are you positive?

He was getting points but he had zero compete in his game, I think those were HUGE red flags, so much so that I know I wasn't alone in thinking that we should absolutely not take him.

Though tbh I don't think I really had a favorite deep down, I just wanted us to make the right pick.

If I had to make the pick myself, I probably would have gone Logan Cooley.
 

WeThreeKings

Demidov is a HAB
Sep 19, 2006
95,571
107,024
Halifax
I'd rather just pick the better player and teach a LD to use a right handed stick 🤣

Drafting a inferior player just because of their position really peeves me.

He was the BPA if you take Michkov out of the mix, which you would almost assuredly have to do if you know that he's manipulating the process to go where he wants to go, and doesn't want to go to your team.
 

Guess

Registered User
Jul 16, 2010
1,285
1,191
Brossard, QC
He was the BPA if you take Michkov out of the mix, which you would almost assuredly have to do if you know that he's manipulating the process to go where he wants to go, and doesn't want to go to your team.
There was also Leonard.

Reinbacher was around 10 or 11 if I remember correctly in general BPA lists.

I'm not trying to focus on Michkov, more that the Habs pick for need so often and I wish they would pick the better player, you can pick for need once your prospect pool is fully stocked up. At the draft they said their decision to draft him might have been different if he wasn't a righty.

I'm sure many of us have nightmares about the KK pick.

If Reinbacher doesn't pan out to be a top line RD then we probably have to trade for one, might as well pick the best player and deal with needs later.

Hughes has shown he is a bulldog at getting what he wants, I believe in his ability to find us what we need.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HabzSauce

WeThreeKings

Demidov is a HAB
Sep 19, 2006
95,571
107,024
Halifax
There was also Leonard.

Reinbacher was around 10 or 11 if I remember correctly in general BPA lists.

I'm not trying to focus on Michkov, more that the Habs pick for need so often and I wish they would pick the better player, you can pick for need once your prospect pool is fully stocked up. At the draft they said their decision to draft him might have been different if he wasn't a righty.

I'm sure many of us have nightmares about the KK pick.

If Reinbacher doesn't pan out to be a top line RD then we probably have to trade for one, might as well pick the best player and deal with needs later.

Hughes has shown he is a bulldog at getting what he wants, I believe in his ability to find us what we need.

Yeah there was also Leonard, but he wasn't the BPA to anyone, although they considered him.

Arizona wanted Reinbacher.
Philly wanted Reinbacher if they traded Gauthier to us for 5th OA (glad we didn't cause he probably doesn't sign here, either)
Nashville was trading up for Reinbacher.
Pronman had mentioned it specifically on the final podcast before the draft, that the noise surrounding the draft was that Montreal would see a lot of action for pick 5 and it wouldn't be to move up to acquire Michkov.

Reinbacher was the guy going 5. Now, will he be the right selection at that spot in hindsight? We won't know for awhile.. but let's just call a spade a spade, Reinbacher was drafted where the NHL and scouting staffs saw him going and wanted to take him if they could get there.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Cubebrick

Guess

Registered User
Jul 16, 2010
1,285
1,191
Brossard, QC
Yeah there was also Leonard, but he wasn't the BPA to anyone, although they considered him.

Arizona wanted Reinbacher.
Philly wanted Reinbacher if they traded Gauthier to us for 5th OA (glad we didn't cause he probably doesn't sign here, either)
Nashville was trading up for Reinbacher.
Pronman had mentioned it specifically on the final podcast before the draft, that the noise surrounding the draft was that Montreal would see a lot of action for pick 5 and it wouldn't be to move up to acquire Michkov.

Reinbacher was the guy going 5. Now, will he be the right selection at that spot in hindsight? We won't know for awhile.. but let's just call a spade a spade, Reinbacher was drafted where the NHL and scouting staffs saw him going and wanted to take him if they could get there.
If Reinbacher was a LD I highly doubt other teams are approaching the Habs to trade for that spot.

That combination of defensive ability and positional need makes teams drool.

I'm still rooting for him and wish him all the success in the world.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nhlfan9191

WeThreeKings

Demidov is a HAB
Sep 19, 2006
95,571
107,024
Halifax
If Reinbacher was a LD I highly doubt other teams are approaching the Habs to trade for that spot.

That combination of defensive ability and positional need makes teams drool.

I'm still rooting for him and wish him all the success in the world.

Yes, the rarity of being a RD and having that profile that Reinbacher does, puts him higher on draft lists.

This is nothing new.. it's why goalies could be objectionably better than guys drafted in the top 10 but won't get drafted there. Centers and RD will always get drafted higher, that's because positional value is part of the BPA calculation for every team.

Buffalo always goes 'BPA' according to public lists and then had to dump Savoie for a third liner with size.
 

ReHabs

Registered User
Sponsor
Jan 18, 2022
8,164
12,516
Was there any update on his surgery? Usually sports teams announce the surgery was a success, etc.
 

Montrealcowboys

Registered User
Jan 7, 2020
55
13
I’m suggesting the Habs had Reinbacher BPA at 5 yes


Shane Wright looks good after a few questionable years…..now if only Hab fans could apply this to Reinbacher, the panic button would not be going off on an hourly basis.
Well Wright was drafted 1 year earlier so not sure where "questionable years" is coming from.
 

Montrealcowboys

Registered User
Jan 7, 2020
55
13
I can't find a central scouting list with him lower than 8, and he goes down from there. I mean whatever, its done. I just don't recall anyone here saying he was a target at 5 considering who was available. I am sure there were, his name just came out of left field on draft day,
THN and their scouts had him at 9, so you are correct. By the way Bob McKenzie had him at #10 as listed on the TSN website.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Habs

Andrei79

Registered User
Jan 25, 2013
16,462
30,590
I'm seeing a lot of whining, crying and adult temper tantrums, but I'm not seeing much discussion about his game. @montreal has criticized his game, but he comes with receipts, reasons and why.
Fair enough, i'm sure he was talked about at some point but 90% of the people seemed shocked here
It happens every year though. Anaheim regularly picks players "higher" than the lists. McGuire called the Price pick "off the reservation". The 2017 had a majority of risers in the top 5 and the teams that picked them are very happy. We all wanted Michkov, but clearly something happened. Both Lapointe and Bobrov talked about "culture" which they don't usually do. They didn't like something about Michkov, which I don't agree with, but Reinbacher was still going top 10.
 

Habs

It's going to be a long year
Feb 28, 2002
22,859
17,695
I'm seeing a lot of whining, crying and adult temper tantrums, but I'm not seeing much discussion about his game. @montreal has criticized his game, but he comes with receipts, reasons and why.

It happens every year though. Anaheim regularly picks players "higher" than the lists. McGuire called the Price pick "off the reservation". The 2017 had a majority of risers in the top 5 and the teams that picked them are very happy. We all wanted Michkov, but clearly something happened. Both Lapointe and Bobrov talked about "culture" which they don't usually do. They didn't like something about Michkov, which I don't agree with, but Reinbacher was still going top 10.

People think I'm stuck on just Michkov but I would have been thrilled with Leonard. To be honest I have some issues with Michkov, he looks like a 'me player' in Philly, dude celebrates just a little too hard in the preseason has a bit of Gilbert Dionne in him. I just don't see the upside in Reinbacher, but I'm happy to eat my words maybe 5 YEARS down the road at this rate.
 

Trenbohabs

Registered User
Sep 25, 2024
90
75
People think I'm stuck on just Michkov but I would have been thrilled with Leonard. To be honest I have some issues with Michkov, he looks like a 'me player' in Philly, dude celebrates just a little too hard in the preseason has a bit of Gilbert Dionne in him. I just don't see the upside in Reinbacher, but I'm happy to eat my words maybe 5 YEARS down the road at this rate.
people did not see the upside of Subban, Weber, Keith, Lidstrom, Faber, the list goes on and on and on. Thats my hope!
 

Habs

It's going to be a long year
Feb 28, 2002
22,859
17,695
people did not see the upside of Subban, Weber, Keith, Lidstrom, Faber, the list goes on and on and on. Thats my hope!
You could see the skillset of PK, Keith, Lidstrom but thus far I haven't seen the offensive upside I'm hoping for in a #5 pick.
 

Trenbohabs

Registered User
Sep 25, 2024
90
75
You could see the skillset of PK, Keith, Lidstrom but thus far I haven't seen the offensive upside I'm hoping for in a #5 pick.
lidstrom was a 3rd round pick if I remember, i doubt they saw any upside from him? id like to validate that info on keith and pk thought
 
  • Like
Reactions: Habs

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad