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Player Discussion David Quinn: Part IV

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Machinehead said:
Gee, it's almost as if scoring is also important.

Do you really think "analytics chest-beaters" want guys with nice charts and zero points?



Been saying it in just about every GDT. This isn't a shift in narrative at all. I love Miller as a prospect but he had a long stretch this season where he was woeful. Both can be true.



Who cares? He's not a prospect. Talk about choosing things to fit the narrative.



Yes.



I'm not implying that he's a Fox creation but playing with Fox is an easy job and Lindgren hasn't had the challenges that other players have. It's an easy situation to coach.



In the limited time Fox and Smith were together this year, they had an xGF% of 51%. Again, yes.

I like how you create these gotcha scenarios that are the exact thing that happened.



Andersson fits a specific criteria of player I'm talking about. I think he just sucks regardless of who the coach is but it would be silly to just pretend he didn't exist. I'm glad you decided to harp on that.


Kravtsov didn't play in the bubble. Glad to hear he "stood out" watching from upstairs. Also glad to hear he stood out at Traktor where David Quinn isn't his coach, the entire f***ing point of the thread you're posting in.
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Machinehead said:
Gee, it's almost as if scoring is also important.

Do you really think "analytics chest-beaters" want guys with nice charts and zero points?
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Your vaunted analytic would tell you that he is not a bust but rather on recieiving end of some atrocious puck luck. Both for him and his line mates.
Been saying it in just about every GDT. This isn't a shift in narrative at all. I love Miller as a prospect but he had a long stretch this season where he was woeful. Both can be true.
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We are going to have to agree to disagree as to what a long stretch it.
Who cares? He's not a prospect. Talk about choosing things to fit the narrative.
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Only prospects develop? Non-prospects are not allowed to?
Yes.
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Ahh yes. Back to prospects developing themselves.
I'm not implying that he's a Fox creation but playing with Fox is an easy job and Lindgren hasn't had the challenges that other players have. It's an easy situation to coach.
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Maybe playing with Lindgren makes it an easy job for Fox?
In the limited time Fox and Smith were together this year, they had an xGF% of 51%. Again, yes.

I like how you create these gotcha scenarios that are the exact thing that happened.
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And I like how you use small sample sizes and pretend that they happen over the course of a much longer time period.
Andersson fits a specific criteria of player I'm talking about. I think he just sucks regardless of who the coach is but it would be silly to just pretend he didn't exist. I'm glad you decided to harp on that.
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You brought him up. How's his play in LA going?
Kravtsov didn't play in the bubble. Glad to hear he "stood out" watching from upstairs. Also glad to hear he stood out at Traktor where David Quinn isn't his coach, the entire f***ing point of the thread you're posting in.
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Again you brought him up. So yeah, it is pretty relevant to see how his season was going after he was ruined.
 
duhmetreE said:
Who said anything about starting him 10 straight games? I think you keep confusing the Boston game where Georgiev started and played but Shesty got the loss for a goal against when Georgiev was in concussion protocol.

Either way, Shesty should have been allowed to get in the groove from the beginning of the season. 80% of games is not a reach for a #1. Which would be 44-45 starts this season.... instead we have a hodgepodge rotation at 60/40.
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I n the preceding 14 games prior to his injury, Shesterkin played in 70%. That does not appear like a time share. This is spanning since the start of February. It is pretty clear who the #1 is.
 
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True Blue said:
I n the preceding 14 games prior to his injury, Shesterkin played in 70%. That does not appear like a time share. This is spanning since the start of February. It is pretty clear who the #1 is.
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Why stop at 14? Why not 10 like previously talked about? Why not 15?

Shesterkin STARTED 6 of the last 10, when he was healthy.
He STARTED 9 out of 15. 64%.
Overall he started 13 out of 21, 62%.

He should be getting 80% of the games.
 
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duhmetreE said:
Why stop at 14? Why not 10 like previously talked about? Why not 15?

Shesterkin STARTED 6 of the last 10, when he was healthy.
He STARTED 9 out of 15. 64%.
Overall he started 13 out of 21, 62%.

He should be getting 80% of the games.
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Because clearly he shook off whatever was ailing him earlier and stepped in to take the clear cut starter job at that point. I started on exactly 2/1. That's why.
 
Uninstaaled said:
I've yet to see a good argument from the Quinntuplets who think he's done a good job.

It's as if being dealt a bad hand and doing a bad job can't exist in the same universe for them.
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Yeah, I think that Quinn both sucks and is dealing with a horrible hand in the COVID season.

But I've seen nothing from him that shows any form of creativity, leadership, etc. that would somehow get more water from the stone of a season.
 
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Hunter Gathers said:
Yeah, I think that Quinn both sucks and is dealing with a horrible hand in the COVID season.

But I've seen nothing from him that shows any form of creativity, leadership, etc. that would somehow get more water from the stone of a season.
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Every team is in the league is dealing with Covid issues..
 
Did Chytil get hurt? Is there a reason he only played 12 minutes this game or is it just Quinn being Quinn?

Lafreniere and Kakko 13 minutes each.
 
This season was never supposed to be about making the playoffs but it was supposed to be about young players developing, taking in more responsibility, and then team as a whole showing clear signs of trending upward.

So far I can’t really say that has happened. 29 games to go so we’ll see. But I don’t know how this doesn’t fall on the coach first and foremost.
 
CupSeeker said:
Quinn is choking the aggressiveness out of his young forwards. That has to change or they will take much longer to reach their potential; and they will reach their potential.
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He is dumbing them down to his level.
 
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