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Player Discussion David Quinn: Part IV

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True Blue said:
Ok. Then let’s discuss it a different way. What coach is having any sort of success when a goalie lets in beach balls and your top center is playing to the level of a Boo Nieves?

what team has confidence if every single unscreened 50 footer is a goal?
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What does success mean? I don't care if they win.

I want to see improvement from our young players. Zibanejad and Georgiev have nothing to do with that.
 
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If we're replacing Quinn in the offseason, give me Torts over any of the currently available guys, for sure.

I think Kakko already plays close to how he would want, and if Lafreniere isn't there by next season, he strikes me as the kind of player who would buy into what Torts wants pretty quickly.
 
Torts would be great as a caretaker to finish out the season. No way do I want Torts as our long term coach going forward. But it would never happen, Rangers wouldn't bring him back and i'm sure he would not want to come back.
 
Does anyone really see us bringing Torts back? Putting aside the fact there hasn't been so much as a whisper the organization is souring on DQ, I find Torts an unlikely candidate.
 
RGY said:
Because they’re winning one game on a Saturday with Panarin back?


This guy still needs to go. Rip the bandaid off.
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No lol, I've been saying all along that he isn't going anywhere.

For better or worse, the only noise about moving on from him has been fans. A .500 season this year will not get rid of him. Poor start next year? Then we could start seeing some smoke.
 
Harbour Dog said:
No lol, I've been saying all along that he isn't going anywhere.

For better or worse, the only noise about moving on from him has been fans. A .500 season this year will not get rid of him. Poor start next year? Then we could start seeing some smoke.
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Exactly. He's not going anywhere. Not this season.
 
RGY said:
Because they’re winning one game on a Saturday with Panarin back?


This guy still needs to go. Rip the bandaid off.
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seriously, its not like they just hired him and don't want to be hasty. This is his 3rd year as coach. Can't imagine the average NHL coach shelf life is much longer than 3 years. He's not the guy to take this team to the next level so why waste our time?
 
KirkAlbuquerque said:
seriously, its not like they just hired him and don't want to be hasty. This is his 3rd year as coach. Can't imagine the average NHL coach shelf life is much longer than 3 years. He's not the guy to take this team to the next level so why waste our time?
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We just can't predict what the FO has determined is a passing grade for Quinn.

I said they need stay .500 or slightly above for Quinn to keep his job.

He isn't taking us anywhere in the post season. But, again, I don't think the FO thinks so either.

When we are ready to take that next step, Quinn will be gone.
 
Harbour Dog said:
No lol, I've been saying all along that he isn't going anywhere.

For better or worse, the only noise about moving on from him has been fans. A .500 season this year will not get rid of him. Poor start next year? Then we could start seeing some smoke.
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Depends imo. If they end the season under .500 and/or if Sullivan becomes available, I don’t think Quinn is here next year. If neither happens, it’s less clear
 
Blueshirt Believer said:
We just can't predict what the FO has determined is a passing grade for Quinn.

I said they need stay .500 or slightly above for Quinn to keep his job.

He isn't taking us anywhere in the post season. But, again, I don't think the FO thinks so either.

When we are ready to take that next step, Quinn will be gone.
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We are ready now. Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Trouba are in their primes and making a lot of money. Gonna 4 straight years out of the playoffs. And he’s doing a shit job with the #2 and #1 overall picks. Gonna wait till we miss 7 years in a row again like 98-04? Wait until Laf and Kakko are 25 years old before they finally “break out”? Zero reason to keep this guy.
 
Either people have short term memory or really don't remember Torts tenure here. You are complaining about Quinn wanting North/South and Dump and Chase....WTH do you think Torts wants to do? The makeup of this team is the antithesis of what Torts wants. Torts wants 4 lines of grinders. The black and blue shirts were successful because the Duby, Callahan, Girardi, Staal, and McDs along with a 4th line of goons were perfect for Torts.

With the depth of forwards we have, Gallant would be the better choice. Torts was literally run out of town by the players, including Hank basically revolting against him.
 
broadwayblue said:
Does anyone really see us bringing Torts back? Putting aside the fact there hasn't been so much as a whisper the organization is souring on DQ, I find Torts an unlikely candidate.
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I'll guarantee they're talking about it behind the scenes lol
 
Blueshirt Believer said:
We just can't predict what the FO has determined is a passing grade for Quinn.

I said they need stay .500 or slightly above for Quinn to keep his job.

He isn't taking us anywhere in the post season. But, again, I don't think the FO thinks so either.

When we are ready to take that next step, Quinn will be gone.
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Sorry but .500 after 3 years gets you fired.
It's not acceptable..
 
haveandare said:
Depends imo. If they end the season under .500 and/or if Sullivan becomes available, I don’t think Quinn is here next year. If neither happens, it’s less clear
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The Pens are 1 point out of 1st place.
Sullivan isn't going any where.
 
WojtekWolski86 said:
Either people have short term memory or really don't remember Torts tenure here. You are complaining about Quinn wanting North/South and Dump and Chase....WTH do you think Torts wants to do? The makeup of this team is the antithesis of what Torts wants. Torts wants 4 lines of grinders. The black and blue shirts were successful because the Duby, Callahan, Girardi, Staal, and McDs along with a 4th line of goons were perfect for Torts.

With the depth of forwards we have, Gallant would be the better choice. Torts was literally run out of town by the players, including Hank basically revolting against him.
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Have you seen a single "dump and chase" shift yet this season?

I certainly haven't.
 
NYR said:
Have you seen a single "dump and chase" shift yet this season?

I certainly haven't.
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They did against the Bruins today with a sustained forecheck.

But Quinn usually employs a free wheeling and rushing approach.

Its why we do so poorly against the Pens. Rangers try to play open and exchange blows.
 
Blueshirt Believer said:
They did against the Bruins today with a sustained forecheck.

But Quinn usually employs a free wheeling and rushing approach.

Its why we do so poorly against the Pens. Rangers try to play open and exchange blows.
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I did not witness a single cycle today which is why you play dump and chase.
They get the puck in deep and immediately try to pass it back to a defenseman at the blue line, it's like basically 2 entries every single time only every team in the league is waiting to pick off that pass and send it the other way.

This is not a system.
It's f***ing straight up stupid..
 
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