Player Discussion David Quinn: Part IV

[aufheben]

Nice, this guy is tracking games again this season.

 

[True Blue]

I added on the Beck statement to highlight that JD is not doing anything ...he is silent and no one hears from him...exactly what Beck was saying...that he couldn't even reply to his email

you really should pay attention when reading things...it helps with being able to get a job

Because with all due respect to Barry Beck, he is around the Rangers front office much?

What does any of this have to do with anyone getting a job?

Again, using Beck at the very end of your rant is a technique that is used as if it some how validates your drivel. I assure you it does not. Wait, you DO know what drivel is, right?

 

[True Blue]

Denis Potvin beat his wife which 3 thousand times worse than anything TDA ever did...did bill torrey banish denis potvin ? hell no they just went on to win stanley cups

I am in no way condoning beating a woman...just trying to illustrate that TDA got banished for saying dumb things...he never physically hurt anyone..he is just immature and has no filter...I dont think you
should destroy someone's career for what TDA said...this should of been handled in a much better way.

What does it tell you that EVERY SINGLE NHL team that had any possible interest in DeAngelo, walked away from ANY deal (including one for pop corn) after doing their own due diligence?

Allow me to drop some lucidity on your dark soul.......DeAngelo did this to himself. If his career is destroyed, all he needs to do is look in the mirror.

Not a single NHL taker for him.....things that make you go hmmmmm..........

 

[WAIVE BRODZINSKI]

What does it tell you that EVERY SINGLE NHL team that had any possible interest in DeAngelo, walked away from ANY deal (including one for pop corn) after doing their own due diligence?

Allow me to drop some lucidity on your dark soul.......DeAngelo did this to himself. If his career is destroyed, all he needs to do is look in the mirror.

Not a single NHL taker for him.....things that make you go hmmmmm..........

A little dramatic???

 

[True Blue]

A little dramatic???

Not even a little bit. The part about all of the NHL teams is completely true.

 

[WAIVE BRODZINSKI]

Not even a little bit. The part about all of the NHL teams is completely true.

Not that I’m defending TDA but you know all this information PERSONALLY about ALL the other teams

 

[True Blue]

Not that I’m defending TDA but you know all this information PERSONALLY about ALL the other teams

Am I on first name basis with all other teams? No. But there is enough smoke for that to be fire. Between what is written, what is reported and what our insiders have whispered, I will choose to believe it. Anyone else can freely believe that the Rangers are simply out to ruin his career and are refusing any and all overtures to trade him.

 

[WAIVE BRODZINSKI]

Am I on first name basis with all other teams? No. But there is enough smoke for that to be fire. Between what is written, what is reported and what our insiders have whispered, I will choose to believe it. Anyone else can freely believe that the Rangers are simply out to ruin his career and are refusing any and all overtures to trade him.

I guess I will let my colleague know that he was wrong about TDA but thanks for playing

 

[True Blue]

I guess I will let my colleague know that he was wrong about TDA but thanks for playing

Any time, my good man. Any time.

 

[Off Sides]

What does it tell you that EVERY SINGLE NHL team that had any possible interest in DeAngelo, walked away from ANY deal (including one for pop corn) after doing their own due diligence?

Possible, or perhaps teams know what he is and are unwilling to make a deal for him because of his contract on top of what he is?

Any trading team would basically be putting themselves in the position the Rangers are in, if he does not work out they'd have to buy him out.

It will be interesting to see what happens once he is bought out, if some team signs him to a one year deal, or at least gives him a professional try out that turns into that type of deal. ADA on a one year at a cap hit the team can bury with no real cap implications is a little different than him on his current deal.

 

[tailgunner]

I guess True Blue is the expert here
Last year TDA lit up the offense, 4th best point getter amongst d-men in the NHL
This year no TDA and look at the regressed team we have now
If True Blue ran a company that company would be bankrupt

No one is taking TDA because dumbo Gorton lost all his leverage in a trade but saying "tony has played his last game as a Ranger"
All I am saying is that there were way better ways to handle this than what Quinn and Gorton did
He should of never been scratched for taking that penalty on opening night.
We are a way worse team without Tony in the line-up and what he did was not warranted to banish him

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Denis Potvin beat his wife which 3 thousand times worse than anything TDA ever did...did bill torrey banish denis potvin ? hell no they just went on to win stanley cups

I am in no way condoning beating a woman...just trying to illustrate that TDA got banished for saying dumb things...he never physically hurt anyone..he is just immature and has no filter...I dont think you
should destroy someone's career for what TDA said...this should of been handled in a much better way.

If you don't understand that the thing Potvin was happened in a much different time as far as where this country and society is, I don't know what to tell you.

And if you are likening ADA to Potvin as players, I don't know what to tell you about that either.

And if you don't want to put any responsibility for the way ADA has conducted himself (after he was reportedly talked to time and again), I really don't know what to tell you.

Perhaps nothing speaks more volumes to how he has conducted himself than the rest of the league has avoided him And the message is it's not no big deal.

 

[haveandare]

I guess True Blue is the expert here
Last year TDA lit up the offense, 4th best point getter amongst d-men in the NHL
This year no TDA and look at the regressed team we have now
If True Blue ran a company that company would be bankrupt

No one is taking TDA because dumbo Gorton lost all his leverage in a trade but saying "tony has played his last game as a Ranger"
All I am saying is that there were way better ways to handle this than what Quinn and Gorton did
He should of never been scratched for taking that penalty on opening night.
We are a way worse team without Tony in the line-up and what he did was not warranted to banish him

Correlation doesn’t equal causation, calling out someone else for disagreeing with you comes off petty, and there’s nothing wrong with scratching a veteran player for a dumb, selfish penalty early in the season with a very young team. It’s setting an example. Grown ups should be able to deal with a little consequence for their actions without throwing ridiculous tantrums. He’s a good player but seems to still be too much of a hothead for his own good.

Also “leverage” has nothing to do with anything once teams pass on him literally for free

 

[Edge]

I guess True Blue is the expert here
Last year TDA lit up the offense, 4th best point getter amongst d-men in the NHL
This year no TDA and look at the regressed team we have now
If True Blue ran a company that company would be bankrupt

No one is taking TDA because dumbo Gorton lost all his leverage in a trade but saying "tony has played his last game as a Ranger"
All I am saying is that there were way better ways to handle this than what Quinn and Gorton did
He should of never been scratched for taking that penalty on opening night.
We are a way worse team without Tony in the line-up and what he did was not warranted to banish him

Alright, thus far you've been adrift in the safe harbor of my patience. But enough of this shit.

ADA is not in the lineup because he can't keep his f***ing mouth shut for more than a few hours at a time before stirring the f***ing pot, making comments that would get you and I FIRED if we went into our places of work, and then doing shit that he shouldn't be doing online.

You know why they made the f***ing statement?

So that dumb-shits wouldn't be asking why he isn't in the lineup every day. Because we all know that would've been the topic.

The announcement did nothing to ADA's value. You know why?

Because every team who even had a remote interest in ADA did deep dives on him and decided he was too hot to touch right now.

You know why he's too hot to touch? Because he has f***ing burner accounts, and because you have transparency on what some of his comments were from people closer to the situation. And teams don't want anything to do with that right now.

They don't even want that shit around their AHL teams.

ADA has f***ed himself over so badly at this point, with no one to blame but himself. But no one is going to talk about the findings of their investigations right now, because if they ever get desperate enough to bring him in, they'd be mutilated in the court of public opinion.

So here's the deal, as straight forward as I can give you.

The only way ADA has any future in the NHL is if he lays low, keeps his mouth shut and doesn't force an issue where info from the investigations is made public and if he shows he can move on from it.

This isn't a Rangers thing.

It isn't a Gorton thing.

It's not a cancel culture thing.

It's not a political thing.

It's a "Don't act like you have f***ing brain damage" thing and an "stop acting like a reject from a bad reality TV show" thing.

It's a "keep your f***ing mouth shut and maybe you can salvage a career" thing.

But, please, let's cut through the bullshit on this topic.

ADA's wound is self-inflicted. And from most reports, he still doesn't really get it. So there's very little motivation for teams to go out of their way give him a second chance.

 

[True Blue]

Alright, thus far you've been adrift in the safe harbor of my patience. But enough of this shit.

 

[Crease]

Fired up @Edge is the best @Edge

 

[Overcast]

Alright, thus far you've been adrift in the safe harbor of my patience. But enough of this shit.

ADA is not in the lineup because he can't keep his f***ing mouth shut for more than a few hours at a time before stirring the f***ing pot, making comments that would get you and I FIRED if we went into our places of work, and then doing shit that he shouldn't be doing online.

You know why they made the f***ing statement?

So that dumb-shits wouldn't be asking why he isn't in the lineup every day. Because we all know that would've been the topic.

The announcement did nothing to ADA's value. You know why?

Because every team who even had a remote interest in ADA did deep dives on him and decided he was too hot to touch right now.

You know why he's too hot to touch? Because he has f***ing burner accounts, and because you have transparency on what some of his comments were from people closer to the situation. And teams don't want anything to do with that right now.

They don't even want that shit around their AHL teams.

ADA has f***ed himself over so badly at this point, with no one to blame but himself. But no one is going to talk about the findings of their investigations right now, because if they ever get desperate enough to bring him in, they'd be mutilated in the court of public opinion.

So here's the deal, as straight forward as I can give you.

The only way ADA has any future in the NHL is if he lays low, keeps his mouth shut and doesn't force an issue where info from the investigations is made public and if he shows he can move on from it.

This isn't a Rangers thing.

It isn't a Gorton thing.

It's not a cancel culture thing.

It's not a political thing.

It's a "Don't act like you have f***ing brain damage" thing and an "stop acting like a reject from a bad reality TV show" thing.

It's a "keep your f***ing mouth shut and maybe you can salvage a career" thing.

But, please, let's cut through the bullshit on this topic.

ADA's wound is self-inflicted. And from most reports, he still doesn't really get it. So there's very little motivation for teams to go out of their way give him a second chance.

 

[tailgunner]

edge wasted a whole lot of time on that nonsense post
at the end of the day the Rangers are a worse team without TDA and that's a fact

it should of been handled better...what part of that don't u understand ?

I run a company of over 60 employees and if I banished everyone who said something stupid and I would be out of business
there are far better ways to handle discipline internally than to hold a press conference and air your dirty laundry
It should of been handled better bottom line

 

[haveandare]

edge wasted a whole lot of time on that nonsense post
at the end of the day the Rangers are a worse team without TDA and that's a fact

it should of been handled better...what part of that don't u understand ?

I run a company of over 60 employees and if I banished everyone who said something stupid and I would be out of business
there are far better ways to handle discipline internally than to hold a press conference and air your dirty laundry
It should of been handled better bottom line

He knows a lot more detail than most and the fact that not a single team wants TDA for free indicates hes likely right on the details.

If you employ people surely you’ve had to fire people because enough became enough at some point. They’ve been “handling it internally” prior to this. You don’t give infinite leeway to someone because they perform well. There comes a time for accountability

 

[Edge]

edge wasted a whole lot of time on that nonsense post
at the end of the day the Rangers are a worse team without TDA and that's a fact

it should of been handled better...what part of that don't u understand ?

I run a company of over 60 employees and if I banished everyone who said something stupid and I would be out of business
there are far better ways to handle discipline internally than to hold a press conference and air your dirty laundry
It should of been handled better bottom line

Let me give you a piece of advice from one business owner to another.

If one of your 60 employees ever says the shit that ADA is quoted as saying, both around fellow employees and online, don't try to hedge on the response.

Otherwise you'll no longer have to worry about the remaining 59 employees, or running the company for the matter.

 

[Harbour Dog]

edge wasted a whole lot of time on that nonsense post
at the end of the day the Rangers are a worse team without TDA and that's a fact

it should of been handled better...what part of that don't u understand ?

I run a company of over 60 employees and if I banished everyone who said something stupid and I would be out of business
there are far better ways to handle discipline internally than to hold a press conference and air your dirty laundry
It should of been handled better bottom line

And if you discipline an employee a half dozen times, and his co-workers hold special meetings with him to try to get him to stop being an asshole, and then he gets in a fight and chokes a co-worker; then what do you do? Employee of the Month award?

 

[Overcast]

edge wasted a whole lot of time on that nonsense post
at the end of the day the Rangers are a worse team without TDA and that's a fact

it should of been handled better...what part of that don't u understand ?

I run a company of over 60 employees and if I banished everyone who said something stupid and I would be out of business
there are far better ways to handle discipline internally than to hold a press conference and air your dirty laundry
It should of been handled better bottom line

Well, we found another one of DeAngelo's burner accounts.

 

[tailgunner]

Let me give you a piece of advice from one business owner to another.

If one of your 60 employees ever says the shit that ADA is quoted as saying, both around fellow employees and online, don't try to hedge on the response.

.

please educate me on what exactly TDA said during his time as a Ranger that is so obscene and disgraceful that it warrants him being fired

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

He knows a lot more detail than most and the fact that not a single team wants TDA for free indicates hes likely right on the details.

If you employ people surely you’ve had to fire people because enough became enough at some point. They’ve been “handling it internally” prior to this. You don’t give infinite leeway to someone because they perform well. There comes a time for accountability

Using this comparison, ADA wasn't "fired" for saying something stupid. He was "fired" for eroding moral (and possibly performance) and creating a hostile work environment.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

And if you discipline an employee a half dozen times, and his co-workers hold special meetings with him to try to get him to stop being an asshole, and then he gets in a fight and chokes a co-worker; then what do you do? Employee of the Month award?

At some point the employee says, they're just bullshitting me.