Player Discussion David Quinn: Part III
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I understand mistakes. I understand growing pains. I understand sloppiness given the circumstances.
From what I saw last night, as a team, there were ZERO positives. How do you build off of that? What/how do they practice? whatever it is, it's not effective.
We did not look like an NHL team. There's no excuses for that.
From what I saw last night, as a team, there were ZERO positives. How do you build off of that? What/how do they practice? whatever it is, it's not effective.
We did not look like an NHL team. There's no excuses for that.
It's not a single game.
We're going on year 3 and there's a veteran core in place.
Nothing is changing anytime soon IMO
It's a match-up issue when you run a man on man that stretches the zone. See CLB-TB in the playoffs the last two seasons. Tampa changed the way they played to adapt to how hockey is played in the playoffs. The Islanders played like a playoff contender last night. Trotz has that team believing. The puck support was flawless, and you can tell that team is unified and pulling in the same direction, playing for each other and not trying to establish a hierarchy. Washington made a terrible analytics mistake in letting Trotz go. He had that Capitals team pulling in the same direction. There's a pre & post there, Trotz was worth the extension.
Now that's where the Rangers need to get to, and it's not going to happen overnight, especially after one game. I get that it's a young team, but to build a winning culture, you don't start by having built-in excuses. You start by stating what the team needs to improve on, without excuses, and with accountability. Ice-time is a way to drive accountability. I'd like to see more dynamism and more thought to how the bench is managed in-game. I think that's something that needs to be improved upon.
BTW Bench Minors for too many men... that's on the guy making the line changes. Is it Oliver that's responsible for that? Cause I haven't seen that improve in three years.
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I think when people wonder why there are a lot of retreads in the NHL, take a look at how shitty most new coaches are.
Should probably stop ignoring half of the world when looking for coaches. Some of the worlds best players are European, so I don't understand why organizations think it's somehow different with coaching
It's not after one game though. Last year was the exact same, except you had Panarin and Ziba winning games on their own.
The NHL IS the ultimate end game.
There are many great Euro players but North American/ Canadian hockey is what every hockey entity emulates..
Amazing Kreiderman
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I guess i misunderstood your whole comment? Sounded to me like you were talking about players. My bad
But my point was that just like a big chunk of nhl players is from europe, so should be a big chunk of coaches. It's stupid that the clearly elite european coaches, like jukka jalonen, dont get hired even though nhl has so many bad and outdated coaches
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offdacrossbar
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Here’s my take on quinn.
he’s in over his head.
hes frequently outcoached.
his teams come out flat and unprepared regularly.
he’s petty and fatherly. His coaching style is inconsistent. He’s stubborn and for the most part Inexperienced. He’s attractive and poised but lacks the coaching gravitas necessary for a big time original 6 team.
His in game adjustments are for the most part nothing more than shaking lines up and that starts way too early usually.
His roster does not Lack for talent the way the tortorella teams did.
he’s a do less with more guy.
time to go
he’s in over his head.
hes frequently outcoached.
his teams come out flat and unprepared regularly.
he’s petty and fatherly. His coaching style is inconsistent. He’s stubborn and for the most part Inexperienced. He’s attractive and poised but lacks the coaching gravitas necessary for a big time original 6 team.
His in game adjustments are for the most part nothing more than shaking lines up and that starts way too early usually.
His roster does not Lack for talent the way the tortorella teams did.
he’s a do less with more guy.
time to go
Shesterkybomb
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The team looked great before covid, playing his style and hustling. I think people are reading way too much into a handful of games over a 10 month span
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offdacrossbar
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fair enough. I’ll admit I am not and never was a Quinn fan.
When I look back at the canes series and how badly we looked and then last night it makes me think this guy isn’t the right guy.
And again, it didn’t take last nights performance to make me feel that way. But the way they played and failed to compete and just didn’t look ready has to bounce back on the coach.
he seems to me to be outmatched and outcoached too often and his ability to motivate and lead appears, to me, to be rather lacking.
This is a team that can win. Is this the guy to get them there ?
Anyone else worried he'll ruin all of the careers of our promising prospects?
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Shesterkybomb
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Ya I'm not saying he isn't a problem but this is an extremely young team from the net out, they haven't played together much if at all over the last 10 months and i think I need to see this team play atleast 10 games of this season before i say something is up. The bubble was a different beast, some players around the globe wete able to practice, and a lot weren't, a lot of ours couldn't so some had an advantage in that regard, it was a strange time so i dont even include those games.
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It unnerves me that his work experience developing high end talent begins and ends with one season of Jack Eichel at BU. Now that the Rangers have some fine china in the cupboard (Laf and Kakko) I’m suddenly nervous about Quinn being the one to handle it.
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