Player Discussion David Quinn: Part III

[Inferno]

Number of coaches who would put 2 rookies on the ice at the same time in overtime? Maybe 2?

 

[duhmetreE]

Number of coaches who would put 2 rookies on the ice at the same time in overtime? Maybe 2?

When they are Miller and Laf? 31.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Once our vets start heating up, Quinn will start looking more competent. Our rookies look to be making real progress. It just really sucks about Fil’s injury.

 

[Inferno]

When they are Miller and Laf? 31.

Not really

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[aufheben]

When they are Miller and Laf? 31.

You’d be surprised.

 

[aufheben]

Honestly I have found Quinn to be utterly conventional and almost banal. You guys are acting like his apartment is stacked to the roof with newspapers from the f***ing 1970s or something.

It’s hilarious watching people freak out over things and then SA16 shows how ordinary it actually is.

There isn’t a coach out there who doesn’t make “wrong” decisions. There’s a difference between that and bad decisions; Something that is specifically an effect of coaching, that continues over a large sample size, and is distinct from other teams.

Example: all the goddamn TMM penalties this team has taken over the last 2+ seasons.

Another example would be a coach who continually pulls his goalie with like 7:00 left in 3rd periods, or a coach who literally just never pulls his goalie at all, lol.

Obviously there are extreme situations that aren’t a trend where a coach does something insane like start Tanner at the opening of a playoff overtime (I don’t want to retrace my memory and remember AV actually doing this...)

 

[aufheben]

is there some issue Boudreau? Who do you want to coach this team?

Yeah he looks like a f***ing tomato baby.

 

[Kords]

Isn't Boudreau under contract with the NHL network this year? He's been on the panel a few times, I figured he was leaving the coaching days behind him.

 

[SA16]

Honestly I have found Quinn to be utterly conventional and almost banal. You guys are acting like his apartment is stacked to the roof with newspapers from the f***ing 1970s or something.

It’s hilarious watching people freak out over things and then SA16 shows how ordinary it actually is.

There isn’t a coach out there who doesn’t make “wrong” decisions. There’s a difference between that and bad decisions; Something that is specifically an effect of coaching, that continues over a large sample size, and is distinct from other teams.

Example: all the goddamn TMM penalties this team has taken over the last 2+ seasons.

Another example would be a coach who continually pulls his goalie with like 7:00 left in 3rd periods, or a coach who literally just never pulls his goalie at all, lol.

Obviously there are extreme situations that aren’t a trend where a coach does something insane like start Tanner at the opening of a playoff overtime (I don’t want to retrace my memory and remember AV actually doing this...)

If we're going to discuss the too many men penalties I might as well go ahead and post the data. Myth or fact? I have no idea. Let's find out. Data since 2018.

https://i.gyazo.com/ee3edf756183e5bf6f16b8ed8549db04.png

Fact!

But, for what it's worth, this was only an issue year 1. Since 2019 the average has been 8.5 TMM penalties and the Rangers have 9 so it hasn't been an issue in 2 yeras.

 

[Hire Sather]

I know a lot of people here dislike AV (I happen to think he was a good coach who just ran his course here, same as Torts)

but with the puck movers we have on defense now, I really think his system work well with this roster

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Yeah he looks like a f***ing tomato baby.

does a coach have to look handsome?

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

When are Howden and Hajek are officially busts? They were 2 of the main prospects that Quinn was hired to develop. Quinn so far has shown to be the opposite of developmental coach. Why? Because he desperately wants to win and cares more about his fairly blank coaching record than he does about developing players. And thus heavily relies on proven vets.

Bunch of our quality prospects are on the verge of NHL bust with Quinn as the coach.

 

[offdacrossbar]

larrys latest article is a rah rah piece it seems to build up quinn and make him look cutting edge for allowing ice time based on wait for it...... intentions. "look, it doesnt matter where you were drafted" yada yada yada and then larry mentions lias andersson. yawn.

theres no free rides here ...... uh huh. paging Jack Johnson and marc staal...

suddenly, hes some kind of coaching savant for putting laf and miller and blackwell together in OT and then when it worked, pooof..... brilliance.

usually its "spin the wheel" line combos mid game and line mates that last maybe 1 game. his plan is whatever seems to work was the plan and what doesnt doesnt take long to be changed. chemistry with quinn is 1 game max.

gimme a break.

isnt this the same guy who played jack effing johnson too much already ? who yo-yos the likes of kakko and gauthier and deangelo and lemme and then NEVER seems to watch the results when his favorite pet brett howden stinks it up every night.

guy plays favorites, overplays washed up vets and relys on teaching lessons and being punitive rather than developing talent. play your best talent usually makes the most sense unless you are dave quinn.

this coach's team is 28th in the league

his power play is 23rd

his pk is 26th

face-off % 26th

not buying it.

 

[True Blue]

When are Howden and Hajek are officially busts? They were 2 of the main prospects that Quinn was hired to develop. Quinn so far has shown to be the opposite of developmental coach. Why? Because he desperately wants to win and cares more about his fairly blank coaching record than he does about developing players. And thus heavily relies on proven vets.

Bunch of our quality prospects are on the verge of NHL bust with Quinn as the coach.

Oy vey. Of all the times to list Howden as a complete bust, doing so this season may well be the most idiotic of times.

And I would love to know what this “bunch” of prospects that are on the verge of busting. Betting you can’t actually name them.

 

[Bob Richards]

does a coach have to look handsome?

Its the 1st, 2nd and 4th most important attributes to a coach.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I mean, hey, we're actually playing defense, outshooting and consistently generating more high-quality scoring chances than our opponents, all while our top-6 and goaltending has been butt. I know which one is more likely to continue, but let's keep bitching and moaning even after we just clownpounded BUF and only didn't score 6 goals because Ullmark decided to be Hasek.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I figured we'd be 69th in faceoffs with how much they've been talked about, both here and by Joe M.

26th is much better than I thought they'd be.

I mean, hey, we're actually playing defense, outshooting and consistently generating more high-quality scoring chances than our opponents, all while our top-6 and goaltending has been butt. I know which one is more likely to continue, but let's keep bitching and moaning even after we just clownpounded BUF and only didn't score 6 goals because Ullmark decided to be Hasek.

Lol at clown pounded.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Hi, yes, hello?

I'd like an etymology/derivation for the verb "to clownpound," please.

Thanks in advance.

 

[True Blue]

Hi, yes, hello?

I'd like an etymology/derivation for the verb "to clownpound," please.

Thanks in advance.

Sorry. If you know your parties extension, enter it now

 

[haveandare]

I mean, hey, we're actually playing defense, outshooting and consistently generating more high-quality scoring chances than our opponents, all while our top-6 and goaltending has been butt. I know which one is more likely to continue, but let's keep bitching and moaning even after we just clownpounded BUF and only didn't score 6 goals because Ullmark decided to be Hasek.

Thank you. I am way, way more pleased and excited about the team actually out possessing opponents and suppressing scoring chances than I am bummed about the standings. Playing that way will rise above bad luck as the sample grows.

Quinn has issues like every coach, but the absolute fact is this team is playing better possession and suppression hockey so far than they have in a very long time. I don’t see a logical argument that they’re doing that in spite of the coach.

 

[Bob Richards]

Hi, yes, hello?

I'd like an etymology/derivation for the verb "to clownpound," please.

Thanks in advance.

On the HF football board we refer to any game with a 35+ point differential as a "clownpounding"!

I 'think' its 12+ runs on the baseball board.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

On the HF football board we refer to any game with a 35+ point differential as a "clownpounding"!

I 'think' its 12+ runs on the baseball board.

Yes, but this does not explain the derivation of the word itself.

Why is it a clown that is getting pounded? Or is it the clown doing the pounding? Is the pounding so severe that recipient is smashed into an alternate dimension where they dropped out of school and went to work as a clown?

So many questions left unanswered!

 

[TheBloodyNine]

One day we're gonna have a real coach again, an NHL level coach, I promise you all

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Freakin' call Gallant already