LORDE
I am Lorde, YA YA YA
Wonder where he gets this concept from? Blatantly lie, constantly... eventually someone will believe you and storm the castle or some such shit.
Player Discussion David Quinn: Part III
- Thread starter aufheben
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
- Status
i think if they remain at 1 win after 10 games played it becomes a legitimate convo
will1066
If you score four, you better f'n win the game
- Oct 12, 2008
- 52,406
- 75,529
Suggestion for your next handle: Unquinnged
Amazing Kreiderman
Registered User
- Apr 11, 2011
- 45,070
- 40,920
#fromwinlesstoQuinnless
Filip Chytil
Registered User
- Mar 3, 2014
- 7,295
- 8,961
From last night's post game press conference:
Question: "I know you guys have been struggling a bit at the faceoff dot most of the season. But tonight, it really seemed to be a struggle. Can you put your finger on why things have been so difficult for you guys on faceoffs this season?"
Quinn's answer: "You know, I don't pay attention to what you read on nhl stats. We've actually done pretty well on faceoffs from our end of it. We watch every faceoff. Just so everyone understands what happens when you see the stats. If we win the draw back towards our defenseman and they happen to jump one of the wingers and they touch the puck, that's credited as a loss for us. That being said, we were abysmal on faceoffs tonight. It was incredible how bad we were on draws tonight. Just to keep it in perspective, I'm not saying tonight wasn't bad, it was a huge issue. I think we were 30% and it felt like we were 10%. To me, it was a microcosm of what crept into our game tonight. A faceoff is a battle not only with the centermen, but with the flanks and the wingers. And too often we weren't ready to compete in these battles.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
The young players on this team, talented as they are, are new to the NHL. They're used to the game being easy. It's not now and they don't really seem to know what to do. Lafreniere makes nice plays but then nothing happens. Kakko did the same last year.
Remember when Torts quipped "we don't coach offense" and I was just like "guy, maybe you should"? I think we're seeing something similar.
Remember when Torts quipped "we don't coach offense" and I was just like "guy, maybe you should"? I think we're seeing something similar.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Also, our second and first overall picks are not making a significant impact and MSG, the beat, and our coaching staff are worrying about faceoffs.
This is why we are who we are.
This is why we are who we are.
Perhaps relying on a pair of 19 year olds making significant impact was simply setting yourself up for disappointment? Lafreniere did not play hockey for 10 months until he got all of two weeks of camp. Perhaps that is not the greatest way to get yourself ready to play in the NHL?Also, our second and first overall picks are not making a significant impact and MSG, the beat, and our coaching staff are worrying about faceoffs.
This is why we are who we are.
WojtekWolski86
Registered User
- Nov 14, 2019
- 2,967
- 4,905
Someone explain to me this logic.
The team sucks = Quinn's fault
The team succeeds = In spite of Quinn
Its funny when Renney, Torts, AV were coaches everyone wanted their head on every losing streak or dry spell. Then when they are gone, everyone is like "we need Torts!" or "look at AV succeed in Philly!"
This board would turn on Gallant in a heartbeat.
The team sucks = Quinn's fault
The team succeeds = In spite of Quinn
Its funny when Renney, Torts, AV were coaches everyone wanted their head on every losing streak or dry spell. Then when they are gone, everyone is like "we need Torts!" or "look at AV succeed in Philly!"
This board would turn on Gallant in a heartbeat.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
No, I'm sick of this narrative. Every team drafts out-of-the-box star forwards but us.
Being a Rangers fan means never having expectations and I'm at the end of my wits with it.
Sick of it or not, it remains factual.
And NO team drafted a 19 year old in the first round, then had him not play hockey for 10 months and then thrust him into NHL play after 2 weeks of camp and no pre-season games. If you can name one single instance of this, I will be impressed.
TheBloodyNine
Pure Bred Soviet Savage
The team hasn’t succeeded in Quinn’s last 10 games and counting so...
leetch99
Leetch66 Joined 2007
The story being told locally[PEI] here on the unexpected Gallant firing in Vegas...was basically because of the same argument...Gerard wanted one style....the GM wanted to go another way . Gerard lost . Supposedly that was revealed over a card game with Gallant and his friends shortly after he arrived back home ....don't shoot the messenger . That's all I know about that...I never watched Vegas play to be honest...way too late for me here on PEI . That info was relayed to me by a friend . Everybody around here has a friend that is friends with Gerard LOL....the man hangs at all the minor hockey games every weekend and weeknight when he can. Gerard Gallant will be forever a rink rat nor will he ever have an ego. I certainly would love to see him in NY...plus it would be easier to get tickets LOL....
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
I'll be impressed if you can name a single instance of a star player coming into the league at 18/19 and doing nothing. Maybe Joe Thornton almost 24 years ago now?
I was expecting ups and downs. I wasn't expecting 70+ points right away. But we're not talking about just ok. Kakko just had the worst season since analytics are being tracked.
If Lafreniere doesn't get going, we have to face and address the reality that this organization is systemically incapable of developing forward talent. I think we all knew this. We blamed draft position. Fair enough.
If it doesn't work this time, we can't blame draft position anymore.
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
If you only count the legal face offs, we’re winning, by a lot!
Filip Chytil
Registered User
- Mar 3, 2014
- 7,295
- 8,961
If you don't count any face offs, we're not losing any face offs.
Rangers fans dont even know what hating a coach is. The criticism Quinn gets is child's play. He's the most beloved of the three coaches I root for.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
I think the problem is testing. If we just stopped taking so many faceoffs, we wouldn't be losing any.
SA16
Sixstring
Being bad on faceoffs isn't a big deal. What is a big deal is thinking it's a problem and devoting practices to it instead of trying to get better at other things.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Well, I hate just about every coach as @darko will attest to, I think that's fair, but all the other coaches I've rooted for and hated have coached homegrown superstars most of my life.
Strong faceoff teams consider taking faceoffs as having an advantage.
If you can force a faceoff at key points in a game (stop the opposing teams momentum) insert set-play.
Faceoffs are huge in a game of inches, especially during the playoffs..
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
Here's the thing: I don't give a f*** about a game of inches in the playoffs right now.
That's not what we rebuilt for.
Too much focus is put on DQ, Gorton and Drury plays a very big part in this too.
We have no balance on the roster. No if’s or buts about it. It’s basic hockey. Who on each line regularly drops down to support the Ds and makes sure on a shift by shift basis that we don’t lose too many players up high?
We are comically short in that department. Our top guys at it are like Panarin, Ziba and Buch.
It’s not easy and you must play the hand you are dealt — but it’s in relation to these stuff a GM that knows what he is doing makes a rough decision that has everyone else wondering a bit at first but that makes sure that the team isn’t fundamentally flawed. Our team is like building a Formula 1 car but only buying 3 wheels.
We had one opening in the top 9, we chose a high forechecker in Gauthier. Ops we only have 3 wheels, but let’s improve the clutch first...
We have no balance on the roster. No if’s or buts about it. It’s basic hockey. Who on each line regularly drops down to support the Ds and makes sure on a shift by shift basis that we don’t lose too many players up high?
We are comically short in that department. Our top guys at it are like Panarin, Ziba and Buch.
It’s not easy and you must play the hand you are dealt — but it’s in relation to these stuff a GM that knows what he is doing makes a rough decision that has everyone else wondering a bit at first but that makes sure that the team isn’t fundamentally flawed. Our team is like building a Formula 1 car but only buying 3 wheels.
We had one opening in the top 9, we chose a high forechecker in Gauthier. Ops we only have 3 wheels, but let’s improve the clutch first...
And this hurts everyone from Kakko to Laf to our Ds. Unbalanced forwards lines results that you are pushed back deeep in your own end every time you lose the puck. This means that teams can back down deep on you and still create offense. It means that you never get the top scoring chances which time after time are proven by facts to be very fast transition plays — just after winning the puck.
Machinehead
HFNYR MVP
- Status
Latest posts
-
-
-
-
-
I'm sorry but you guys rate the old timers way too high- Latest: the valiant effort
