Then how would anyone EVER trust a rookie coach? If all the trust is in experienced coaches, eventually they will die out. And then what?
Player Discussion David Quinn: Part III
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Fox didn’t progress? DeAngelo didn’t progress? Lindgren didn’t progress? Buchnevich didn’t progress?
Chytil and Kakko have looked like shit. Fox just seems like a good player inspite of Quinn. Buchnevich played with Mika. Lindgren a good not great player. TDA, sure I'll give you.
will1066
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If he really is a bad, unprepared coach, it would be impossible not to hear at least rumblings about it from the players. And probably a good source to check is a guy like Fast or Skjei, who isn't there anymore and can speak a little bit freely about what it was like to play for the team. Anyone been following their comments since they left the team?
aufheben
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This isn’t true though. And then people will give other coaches credit for it. Well JD and JG are responsible for both of them. And they’re also responsible for the amount of young guys everyone thinks should be progressing.
Davidson took over the Blues in 2006. When he left in 2012, the Blues finished 2nd in the league. He completely turned that franchise around, and did the same in Columbus.
He’s been with the Rangers for like less than two years.
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Look even though I hate the decision I’m not ready to say “Get rid of Quinn” just yet . It seems like the players respect him and last season they were trending upward. It’s only been one game. I understand losing 4-0 to the Isles no less sucks but let’s not overreact yet
mrmovies779
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I was rooting for us to lose in the play in round and look what it got us. We have an opportunity to build a truly great team. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the short term for long term opportunity.
I trust JD (weird calling him Davidson). That said my trust in him went down a little when he vouched for Jack Johnson because of nepotism.
TominNC
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A team should never look as unprepared as it has in the last 4 games. Also, it's not like they have no talent, albeit they have holes, and now Quinn created another hole by sitting TDA.
TheBloodyNine
Pure Bred Soviet Savage
Having legitimate gripes about a guy who hasn’t proven shit yet isn’t just “hating”
TominNC
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He has yet to be given a playoff caliber team. They’re getting there and I believe over achieved last season. Now it seems those 3 bubble games will forever be tacked onto the beginning of this season.
If the reason your team doesn't look like an NHL team in important games is because you don't have an ideal roster despite having two of the best players in the league on it, maybe you're not that great.
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Carolina would have dummied any team in the league those 3 games. The level the Rangers helped them look as good as they did is a matter of opinion, but that was some Duncan era San Antonio Spurs level passing, positioning, and execution on the Canes end.
That said, the team can't look disinterested and apathetic for long because this is a performance business. He will get fired for that. But I think you're drawing too much from that series. A lot of people are.
Then they got smacked by Boston. I think we helped them look good.
KirkAlbuquerque
#WeNeverGetAGoodCoach
no way. We made them look like world beaters because we were that terrible. The got dumped unceremoniously the next round by Boston who in turn got creamed by Tampa.
Hey I've been harsh on Quinnie, but I will support him benching Tony. You don't win in this league by taking 8 penalties. I have no problem with the benching. It's about time. Tony is a scratch cause of his undisciplined play, he'll get a shot at coming back and I know he can harness that energy in the right way.
They played like they gave the game away and didn't try, you don't get 2700 hundred posts on this board unless it's a bad outing. He's holding guys accountable, and I'm glad he's doing it. No problem with this whatsoever. Hell I'd like to see some in-game benchings. Probably means more ice time for Lafreniere, and that's a treat.
BTW you know why those teams that are consistently rebuilding, are rebuilding? There's no consequence for playing an incomplete game. Glad to see this happening. This is good management imo, it's a teaching moment for a young team.
They played like they gave the game away and didn't try, you don't get 2700 hundred posts on this board unless it's a bad outing. He's holding guys accountable, and I'm glad he's doing it. No problem with this whatsoever. Hell I'd like to see some in-game benchings. Probably means more ice time for Lafreniere, and that's a treat.
BTW you know why those teams that are consistently rebuilding, are rebuilding? There's no consequence for playing an incomplete game. Glad to see this happening. This is good management imo, it's a teaching moment for a young team.
No, teams scouted the Rangers during their win streak, and they placed pucks over where the Rangers liked to pressure. They adapted, you had a long break in the middle. Carolina broke the Rangers down with surgical precision. To be a winning team, you have to be able to win in different ways. The Rangers got by on talent and goaltending. A 9-1 bump from a 'back-up goalie' causes a nice bump in the standings as well.
It's simple, they force the puck on the walls, a Ranger player is pressuring but they break their structure off of their reference points, then the other team passes it to a skater moving with speed, or in an area where a guy can get it with speed. Where they are beating the Rangers at the Ranger offensive blueline, and then it's an easy zone entry with players trailing. Then the whole ranger group looks out of sorts because the puck support isn't there and you have two-three guys behind the play.
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They wouldn't, he's not a hardass coach. Some of these guys haven't had a hard ass for a coach. If you think about it, Kreider played what? 40 games under Torts? AV was hard on select players, but not all.
TheBloodyNine
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So basically your assertion here is that coaches can only be successful when given a playoff caliber team? How about he turns them into a playoff caliber team?
The Islanders with Quinn would be a bottom feeder.
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Yes the Rangers roster is better than the islanders. The difference is 100 percent coaching. I can’t even fathom how bad the Quinn islanders would be.
I’m not quite sure how good or what the rangers would be with trotz but I know it would be better than what we see today.
We shouldn’t have to settle for an inferior coach and we really can’t afford to. We have a pretty good sized window and I don’t want to waste years with Quinn
The Islanders defense is a bit underrated. Pelech is one of the better unheralded shutdown guys in the league who can anchor a top pair, like a Lindell or Pesce. Pulock is a solid two way guy to compliment that pair. Leddy is a good veteran. Mayfield is a solid defensive dman who plays tough. Greene may be on his last legs but he’s a damn sight better than Johnson. Dobson is a good young defender with nice upside. Varlamov is also underrated.
Not saying it’s all world, but they have good defense and good center depth with Barzal, Nelson, Pageau, Cizikas. I hate them as much as anyone but they’re a well coached team with decent talent and personnel that fit their system.
The Rangers roster has more TALENT, but on paper we have more holes, more questions marks, more rookies in key roles.
Not saying it’s all world, but they have good defense and good center depth with Barzal, Nelson, Pageau, Cizikas. I hate them as much as anyone but they’re a well coached team with decent talent and personnel that fit their system.
The Rangers roster has more TALENT, but on paper we have more holes, more questions marks, more rookies in key roles.
HockeyBasedNYC
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I don’t dislike Quinn, knew we weren’t getting anything special from a rookie head coach but I was optimistic he was the right guy to help cultivate the young talent.
But between the bubble camp, play-in beat down, opening night and specifically how he has panicked in response to it - he needs to do a hell of a lot the rest of this season to restore any faith I had in him
But between the bubble camp, play-in beat down, opening night and specifically how he has panicked in response to it - he needs to do a hell of a lot the rest of this season to restore any faith I had in him
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