Proposal: David Krejci to the Vancouver Canucks

[Horse McHindu]

David Krejci to the Vancouver Canucks

Obviously, most hockey pundits will argue that the Canucks should be doing a full-on rebuild, but management/ownership in Vancouver clearly do not see things that way.

We all know the narrative by now. Canucks management wants to get gradually younger while simultaneously fielding a competitive team filled with character, so that their prospects are integrated into a solid environment.

Given the above, and given the fact that the Canucks have Eriksson and the twins in their line-up, I think it makes sense for the Canucks to trade for David Krejci (and again, I re-iterate, using Management's outlook).


To Vancouver:

-David Krejci

To Boston:

-Bo Horvat
-draft pick (3rd?)

Advantages for Canucks:

1) Immediate spike in scoring prowess due to 'trickle down' effect (i.e. twins can no longer carry a 1st line, but are still likely good 2nd line players. Sutter is not good enough to anchor a 2nd line, but is a very good 3rd line center. You get the idea). The Canucks have invested a lot of money into Louie Eriksson, and he has proven chemistry with Krejici. Eriksson turns back into a 30 goal guy.

Rodin-Krejci-Eriksson (new 1st line)
Sedin-Sedin-Hansen (former sub-par 1st line for 2016 --> Now a great 2nd line)
Baertschi-Sutter-Burrows (decent 3rd line). You can even have Sutter and Hansen here if someone like Virtanen or Burrows produces with the twins in a 2nd line capacity. You would now have 3 formidable lines.
Granlund-Gaunce-Dorsett

Virtanen goes to Utica to get ice-time.

2) Canucks still have a decent prospect pool and youth.
-Demko, OJ, Boeser, Hutton, Stetcher, Markstrom, Gudbranson (he still counts).

Advantage for Boston:

Get a guy who could possibly be as good as David Krejci in the future.


I think a move like this punches a playoff ticket for Vancouver. They would likely lose in the 1st round, with an outside shot of a 2nd round appearance, but again.........management/ownership want this team to make the playoffs.

If we're being honest, I think a part of this reason is that they suspect that the city of Vancouver won't embrace a full-on rebuild like cities such as Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, etc. did in the past.

You can still get gradually younger :

Even with a Horvat for Krejci move, you can still get significantly younger within the coming years. Miller and Burrows go off the books, while Hansen can be moved if Boeser or Virtanen step up to the plate.

The thing for me is this. The team has obviously invested a lot in Eriksson and the twins. Why not maximize their value? Give Eriksson a center that he has proven chemistry with, and put the twins in a position where they can be dominant 2nd liners.

Outside of that, management can still commit to getting gradually younger while simultaneously fielding a competitive team.

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[canuckslover10]

If vancouver does that Benning should be fired not because krejci is horrible quite the opposite actually but we should be rebuilding and trading Horvat plus a pick would just be ridiculous.

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

You can't seriously be advocating trading Horvat just please stop... . Also the day Horvat is traded is the day Canucks fans march to the Aquilini's home and say "Fire him ffs."

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

I'd probably do it from a BOS standpoint, but I've never really been a Krejci guy. Plug Virtanen into the top 9 and do Bergy/Backes/Spooner down the middle.

It works, but it wont happen.

 

[Canuck Luck]

yes lets trade a 21 yr old who is consistently improving and is probably our best consistent threat offensively for a 30 yr old coming off an injury that seems to have slowed him down looking at his production so far this season.

Benning is that you?

 

[Horse McHindu]

You can't seriously be advocating trading Horvat just please stop... . Also the day Horvat is traded is the day Canucks fans march to the Aquilini's home and say "Fire him ffs."

It's one of the reasons why I had reservations in creating this thread.

I am NOT advocating that we trade Horvat.

What I am suggesting, is that given my perception (whether it's true or false) of how Vancouver Canucks management and ownership think, trading for David Krejci (at the expense of Horvat) makes sense.

Why? Because.

1) They have a lot of money invested in Eriksson (short term and long term), and need to ensure that Eriksson is operating at maximum efficiency.

2) The twins need to be 2nd line players at this stage in their careers.

3) The Canucks can still infuse youth into their line-up over the coming years, while Krejci/Eriksson + twins2ndLine would likely ensure that they make the playoffs (which is directly in line with how I perceive this management group to want things - consistently making the playoffs while gradually getting younger and infusing youth into a 'character' team with proven veteran leaders).

 

[wintersej]

Krejci has a young family and a Boston wife with her own Boston based family. He has a NMC. Doubt he waives it.

 

[Horse McHindu]

yes lets trade a 21 yr old who is consistently improving and is probably our best consistent threat offensively for a 30 yr old coming off an injury that seems to have slowed him down looking at his production so far this season.

Benning is that you?

If Krejci doesn't work off his rust (or his injury that seems to have slowed him down), then you pass obviously. However - if he starts to look like his past self, then Canuck management should take note (given their stated goals and objectives).

Canucks have a lot of money and term tied into Eriksson, and so it should be in management's best interests to create the best possible environment for Eriksson. Eriksson has proven chemistry with Krejci.

For whatever reason, the twins and Eriksson are not meshing.

The twins, at this stage in their careers, would likely be very good 2nd liners and sub-par 1st line players. The Canucks need a new number one line.

As good as Horvat has been, is he a true number one right now?

 

[Horse McHindu]

Krejci has a young family and a Boston wife with her own Boston based family. He has a NMC. Doubt he waives it.

Fair enough.

 

[Skobel24]

Only way the Canucks trade Horvat is if it's Horvat+ for a young upgrade.

 

[M2Beezy]

From a Boston point of view YES
From a Vancity point of view NO

 

[ATypicalCanadian]

It's one of the reasons why I had reservations in creating this thread.

I am NOT advocating that we trade Horvat.

What I am suggesting, is that given my perception (whether it's true or false) of how Vancouver Canucks management and ownership think, trading for David Krejci (at the expense of Horvat) makes sense.

Why? Because.

1) They have a lot of money invested in Eriksson (short term and long term), and need to ensure that Eriksson is operating at maximum efficiency.

2) The twins need to be 2nd line players at this stage in their careers.

3) The Canucks can still infuse youth into their line-up over the coming years, while Krejci/Eriksson + twins2ndLine would likely ensure that they make the playoffs (which is directly in line with how I perceive this management group to want things - consistently making the playoffs while gradually getting younger and infusing youth into a 'character' team with proven veteran leaders).

Except with the way Benning works it just makes it a bigger mess for a GM that comes in after he's fired and we hopefully see Ownership sway on a rebuild.

Not to mention we don't have the space for Krejci and the fact Krecji @ 5.25 + 14 million in the Sedins and 6 million in Eriksson is 25.25 million dollars.. Thats a crap ton of cap to invest in 4 players that are on the wrong side of 30.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Krejci has a young family and a Boston wife with her own Boston based family. He has a NMC. Doubt he waives it.

Totally agree with this, By all account Krejci loves it in Boston, And really doesn't want to leave. So i doubt that he would waive his NMC any ways.

 

[Figgy44]

IMO...

You're better off seeing if you can do Horvat+ for RNH.

IMO, you're better off looking to see if a Juolevi for RNH basis can be discussed if you're going all in to compete.

RNH can be played as a 1C and would greatly lift the burden off the Sedins who could play a 1B or 2nd line. This usage makes them damn dangerous as a team.

If you can figure out a Juolevi for RNH trade, you'd even retain Horvat as a 3C. I think Horvat should at least have a 2C floor, no? RNH and Horvat as a 1/2C sets you up nicely for a Sedin retirement.


I am unsure if Edmonton would entertain inter-conference trades. I know Benning has no such concerns.

 

[b in vancouver]

If Krejci doesn't work off his rust (or his injury that seems to have slowed him down), then you pass obviously. However - if he starts to look like his past self, then Canuck management should take note (given their stated goals and objectives).

Canucks have a lot of money and term tied into Eriksson, and so it should be in management's best interests to create the best possible environment for Eriksson. Eriksson has proven chemistry with Krejci.

For whatever reason, the twins and Eriksson are not meshing.

The twins, at this stage in their careers, would likely be very good 2nd liners and sub-par 1st line players. The Canucks need a new number one line.

As good as Horvat has been, is he a true number one right now?

I actually don't think that would be a bad idea for the Canucks if it ever happened. Krejci - Eriksson were very good together last year - and you'd set up a 1a 1b situation with the Sedins.
Hornet would be tough for the Canucks to move but... if not him - a couple other guys to look at.

I'm not a big fan of 'burn it to the ground and tank for picks' rebuilding and think the Canucks are better off transitioning to the next core while bringing in a few young players and being an attractive destination for FAs.

I think Boston's in the same boat though - and giving up Krejci could really waste some prime years of Bergeron, Marchand, Backes and Rask - so am not sure if I would want Boston to be moving one of the last vets they have (after jettisoning so many the past few years) for a short-term downgrade youth.

 

[Addison Rae]

lmao this can't be real life, what the ****

 

[Peter Griffin]

Cam Neely trade 2.0.

 

[BigTruzz]

What the hell is up with these stupid proposals coming from Canucks fans?

 

[NeoCanuck]

Stop. Please stop.

 

[CherryToke]

Connor Mchindu must be an Oilers fan with all these sabotage the Canucks (even more) proposals. At least we get to keep our first round pick this time.

 

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

David Krejci to the Vancouver Canucks

Obviously, most hockey pundits will argue that the Canucks should be doing a full-on rebuild, but management/ownership in Vancouver clearly do not see things that way.

We all know the narrative by now. Canucks management wants to get gradually younger while simultaneously fielding a competitive team filled with character, so that their prospects are integrated into a solid environment.

Given the above, and given the fact that the Canucks have Eriksson and the twins in their line-up, I think it makes sense for the Canucks to trade for David Krejci (and again, I re-iterate, using Management's outlook).


To Vancouver:

-David Krejci

To Boston:

-Bo Horvat
-draft pick (3rd?)

Advantages for Canucks:

1) Immediate spike in scoring prowess due to 'trickle down' effect (i.e. twins can no longer carry a 1st line, but are still likely good 2nd line players. Sutter is not good enough to anchor a 2nd line, but is a very good 3rd line center. You get the idea). The Canucks have invested a lot of money into Louie Eriksson, and he has proven chemistry with Krejici. Eriksson turns back into a 30 goal guy.

Rodin-Krejci-Eriksson (new 1st line)
Sedin-Sedin-Hansen (former sub-par 1st line for 2016 --> Now a great 2nd line)
Baertschi-Sutter-Burrows (decent 3rd line). You can even have Sutter and Hansen here if someone like Virtanen or Burrows produces with the twins in a 2nd line capacity. You would now have 3 formidable lines.
Granlund-Gaunce-Dorsett

Virtanen goes to Utica to get ice-time.

2) Canucks still have a decent prospect pool and youth.
-Demko, OJ, Boeser, Hutton, Stetcher, Markstrom, Gudbranson (he still counts).

Advantage for Boston:

Get a guy who could possibly be as good as David Krejci in the future.


I think a move like this punches a playoff ticket for Vancouver. They would likely lose in the 1st round, with an outside shot of a 2nd round appearance, but again.........management/ownership want this team to make the playoffs.

If we're being honest, I think a part of this reason is that they suspect that the city of Vancouver won't embrace a full-on rebuild like cities such as Edmonton, Calgary, Toronto, etc. did in the past.

You can still get gradually younger :

Even with a Horvat for Krejci move, you can still get significantly younger within the coming years. Miller and Burrows go off the books, while Hansen can be moved if Boeser or Virtanen step up to the plate.

The thing for me is this. The team has obviously invested a lot in Eriksson and the twins. Why not maximize their value? Give Eriksson a center that he has proven chemistry with, and put the twins in a position where they can be dominant 2nd liners.

Outside of that, management can still commit to getting gradually younger while simultaneously fielding a competitive team.

If I was a Vancouver fan I'd be upset. As a bruin fan it feels like a smart trade even if we are sad to lose our top center

 

[eternalbedhead]

The longer you prolong the rebuild, the more painful it will be. Unfortunately for Vancouver (although it must be noted that ownership is a big part of this), Jim Benning hasn't come to this realization yet.


Vancouver should say hell no, but Benning probably would take this trade if offered.

 

[JAK]

If OP used Virtanen, this thread would be more interesting.

 

[crowi]

If OP used Virtanen, this thread would be more interesting.

Virtanen is not even close to Krejci's value, which I feel is being underrated here. Krejci is a capable 1a/1b center right now.
Sure, Virtanen can make it interesting if the add going to Boston with him is Boeser or Juolevi.

 

[pomx]

Funny thing is were sending a pick to BOS too. What are we gaining out of this trade