LeBrun: Dallas and Minnesota interested in Brock Nelson

[Galactico]

Not surprised. He seems like a really Wild/Stars-esque type of player.

 

[AKL]

We are not even close to the TDL and already teams are lining up for him if Lou makes him available. Reports are Dallas, Minnesota and Toronto are very interested and there will be more at we get closer.

And there's still a cap on what all of those interested teams are willing to pay for him based on what he is. You don't get McDavid for him just because all 31 teams are interested, right? There's still a limit on what an interested team will offer.

If I'm interested in a 4bed 3bath 2500 sqft home that's valued at 400k, and so are 10 other people, that home isn't suddenly worth 5 million dollars. There's a point where 9 other people will be unwilling to go to, and it's much closer to 400k than it is to 5 million.

 

[impaaaaaact]

I think you mistakenly think I'm saying he's worthless and no one wants him and Guerin isn't interested in him when I'm actually being very clear about what I'm saying:


No one is saying Nelson isn't a good player, isn't a desirable asset, or doesn't have value. The contention is over what the value is.

You're literally saying things like nobody cares what his stats are like for the last 3 seasons lmao. He's 33, not 41. If Guerin thinks he's a 50 point player, he doesn't sniff the American roster. If Guerin thinks he's going to fall off a cliff sometime in the next 2-4 months, he doesn't sniff the American roster.

Like I said, there is a high probability that he is the top available player at the deadline. A first and a B prospect sounds like the ballpark to me of what those guys usually go for. The Wild don't have a first but they have a ton of prospects so an offer will likely look different from them.

I think the Ohgren + 2nd + 3rd offer that another post made seems realistic.

 

[Glorydays22]

And there's still a cap on what all of those interested teams are willing to pay for him based on what he is. You don't get McDavid for him just because all 31 teams are interested, right? There's still a limit on what an interested team will offer.

If I'm interested in a 4bed 3bath 2500 sqft home that's valued at 400k, and so are 10 other people, that home isn't suddenly worth 5 million dollars.

lol, great analogy..really.

 

[AKL]

The Wild don't have a first but they have a ton of prospects so an offer will likely look different from them.

I think the Ohgren + 2nd + 3rd offer that another post made seems realistic.

No one made this offer in this thread and you're definitely not getting Ohgren for a rental. This is what I'm talking about. You can't just say "well you don't have a late 1st so we'll take Ohgren as the base instead". It doesn't work like that in real life. Ohgren is much more valuable than the late 1st, beyond the threshold of being an appropriate starting point for Nelson.

 

[Glorydays22]

You're literally saying things like nobody cares what his stats are like for the last 3 seasons lmao. He's 33, not 41. If Guerin thinks he's a 50 point player, he doesn't sniff the American roster. If Guerin thinks he's going to fall off a cliff sometime in the next 2-4 months, he doesn't sniff the American roster.

Like I said, there is a high probability that he is the top available player at the deadline. A first and a B prospect sounds like the ballpark to me of what those guys usually go for. The Wild don't have a first but they have a ton of prospects so an offer will likely look different from them.

I think the Ohgren + 2nd + 3rd offer that another post made seems realistic.

Sorry I don't think we trade Nelson without getting a 1st rounder.

 

[Taylor26]

a 1st in a loaded 2026 draft no thanks.

 

[impaaaaaact]

Sorry I don't think we trade Nelson without getting a 1st rounder.

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[Glorydays22]

No one made this offer in this thread and you're definitely not getting Ohgren for a rental. This is what I'm talking about. You can't just say "well you don't have a late 1st so we'll take Ohgren as the base instead". It doesn't work like that in real life. Ohgren is much more valuable than the late 1st, beyond the threshold of being an appropriate starting point for Nelson.

So he's free? ok...sure. A propsect is a prospect until he does something. Nelson is a proven scorer and a top 2C in this league. Sorry he's not available for scraps.

 

[AKL]

Sorry he's not available for scraps.

Sorry I don't think we trade Nelson without getting a 1st rounder.

I'm positive he'll get a late 1st+,

I swear some of you guys have selective reading comprehension.

He will get a late 1st + decent, not great, prospect. Prospects like Ohgren are not on the table in a deal like this.

 

[impaaaaaact]

No one made this offer in this thread and you're definitely not getting Ohgren for a rental. This is what I'm talking about. You can't just say "well you don't have a late 1st so we'll take Ohgren as the base instead". It doesn't work like that in real life. Ohgren is much more valuable than the late 1st, beyond the threshold of being an appropriate starting point for Nelson.

I misremembered heidt as ohgren.

well whatever, maybe he doesn't go to the wild. we can still stop calling him a 50 point player though lol

 

[AKL]

we can still stop calling him a 50 point player though lol

If he stops pacing to 50 points, sure. A 50 point player is what he's performing as this season. It's what he is right now.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Detractors keep boiling down his worth to his last 27 games on a team that has been absolutely decimated by injuries. If you zoom out, even with those games included he averages 35 goals a season over his last 250 or so games. If these teams actually think he's a 50 point player they're probably not interested at all.

He's a center scored 35 goals and 70 points the last two seasons. The year before he scored 37 and and 60 in 72 games. Let's not be disingenuous about who he is.

*has been.

 

[impaaaaaact]

If he stops pacing to 50 points, sure. A 50 point player is what he's performing as this season. It's what he is right now.

that's the most short sighted shit in the world and there's not a single GM in the league that would entertain that line of thinking lmao.

Looks like Erikkson Ek is on pace for like 18 goals and 45 points. Is that who he is?

 

[Glorydays22]

I swear some of you guys have selective reading comprehension.

He will get a late 1st + decent, not great, prospect. Prospects like Ohgren are not on the table in a deal like this.

Thats fine, as I stated before. The Wild are not the only team reported to be interested. And if you feel your team won't pony up anything besides a late 1st rounder, fine. Dallas, Toronto and others I'm sure will be calling as we get closer. and we'll find out.

I'm sure Nelson will put his 5000 sq ft home on sale at on the island for a few million

*has been.

I love how on this forum, when it's not a player from your team that your looking to sale. Everyone else is garbage...lol

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

that's the most short sighted shit in the world and there's not a single GM in the league that would entertain that line of thinking lmao

To be honest, I'm a little bit concerned that Guerin might give up Ohgren for Nelson (let alone my near-paralyzing fear that he'll give up Rossi for him), but I just don't think that he should. I do not like the idea of paying a premium to keep him away from Dallas.

 

[AKL]

To be honest, I'm a little bit concerned that Guerin might give up Ohgren for Nelson (let alone my near-paralyzing fear that he'll give up Rossi for him),

Great, now they're going to think Nelson is worth Rossi.

 

[impaaaaaact]

To be honest, I'm a little bit concerned that Guerin might give up Ohgren for Nelson (let alone my near-paralyzing fear that he'll give up Rossi for him), but I just don't think that he should. I do not like the idea of paying a premium to keep him away from Dallas.

I would be shocked if he gave up Rossi, less so Ohgren if they're really going for it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I love how on this forum, when it's not a player from your team that your looking to sale. Everyone else is garbage...lol

Do you know how much room is in between not wanting to give up a 1st + Yurov/Ohgren/Heidt and thinking that Nelson is "garbage"? I will tell you. There is quite a bit of room.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Guerin is gonna do whatever it takes to entice Kaprizov to say.

Makes for a great trading partner for NYI.

 

[AKL]

It's times like these when I think back to when Columbus fans were certain they would get Rossi, Yurov, Buium or Wallstedt for Jiricek, and even Wild fans offering Ohgren+ wasn't good enough, and then they didn't even get Ohgren+, let alone what they were certain they would get, that I have to remind myself that fans often overvalue how much what they're selling is worth.

 

[Glorydays22]

Great, now they're going to think Nelson is worth Rossi.

No way they give Rossi even isles fans think that is stupid.

 

[impaaaaaact]

It's times like these when I think back to when Columbus fans were certain they would get Rossi, Yurov, Buium or Wallstedt for Jiricek, and even Wild fans offering Ohgren+ wasn't good enough, and then they didn't even get Ohgren+, let alone what they were certain they would get, that I have to remind myself that fans often overvalue how much what they're selling is worth.

I mean you're simply undervaluing Nelson, repeatedly calling him a 50 point player when your own GM has clearly shown he has more respect for him than that.

As you said before, he'll probably get a late first +. The Wild can't do that so if Guerin wants him he's going to have to offer up one of the prospects who potentially has more value than a late first. We'll see what happens

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Ohgren + Trenin

Just admit the mistake now.

 

[vokiel]

Brock Boeser, the only real Brock.

Brock Samson is the only real Brock.