Proposal: DAL/TOR - Change of scenery trade

WTFMAN99

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I think both teams are having success this season however both players mentioned haven't played a *huge* part in that success.

How would both teams feel about a Gurionov for Kerfoot swap?

Toronto gets a larger body up front but gives up the more productive player.

Dallas may like the low real dollars owed to Kerfoot.

Maybe 1 or both teams get something out of the acquired player to help elevate the team another level?
 
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HockeyVirus

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Kerfoot is too valuable to the Leafs as a penalty killer. On HFboards if you aren't a star scoring points or a caveman you are trash but in the modern NHL that isn't true. You need swiss army knife guys who can play on any line, you can play a ton of minutes while short handed or to seal out games in final minutes.
 

Porter Stoutheart

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Kerfoot may be a better player... or at least still generically useful relative to Gurianov's mystery box... but still maybe not a player the Stars really have any need for either? Just waiting on a Gurianov awakening, or waiting and using him in a change-of-scenery deal for some other type of player if injuries open up a different need later on, that might be better for the Stars.
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SnizzNasty88

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Are you people absolutely boxed? Kerfoot is absolutely atrocious. $3.5M for a guy who’s an offensive black hole and one of the most vanilla players in the national league. I’d take Gurianov and run. Put him on Matthews’ or Tavares’ wing and see what happens. Kerfoot absolutely reeks, you can find penalty killers anywhere you want that make close to league minimum. Terrible player.
 

biturbo19

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No Kerfoot can play all situations.

Yeah. Not only is Kerfoot the better player anyway...he's also substantially more versatile. Far more useful to have a guy who can play all situations and multiple positions up front. Than a flaky, goal-scoring winger who isn't even particularly good or reliable at that 1-dimensional element.


I could see the purpose in the Leafs trying to swap Kerfoot for a specific, much needed style of player for a specific "niche". But that'd be a big gritty Top-6 Power Forward type or something. Otherwise, he's a great "swiss army knife" player for them to hang onto and slot in wherever in the lineup he's needed at the moment.
 

WTFMAN99

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Wanted to leave this and came back, sounds like if the trade went down, no one would really care.
 

TheDoldrums

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Are you people absolutely boxed? Kerfoot is absolutely atrocious. $3.5M for a guy who’s an offensive black hole and one of the most vanilla players in the national league. I’d take Gurianov and run. Put him on Matthews’ or Tavares’ wing and see what happens. Kerfoot absolutely reeks, you can find penalty killers anywhere you want that make close to league minimum. Terrible player.

Kerfoot plays okay defense in a vanilla way and thats at least worth something. Gurianov is terrible defensively, he's just not good at anything. Remember Matthews goal against Dallas the other night? Gurianov was as responsible as anyone for just letting him waltz through the danger zone.
 

ViewsFromThe6ix

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Are you people absolutely boxed? Kerfoot is absolutely atrocious. $3.5M for a guy who’s an offensive black hole and one of the most vanilla players in the national league. I’d take Gurianov and run. Put him on Matthews’ or Tavares’ wing and see what happens. Kerfoot absolutely reeks, you can find penalty killers anywhere you want that make close to league minimum. Terrible player.

Kerfoot is good defensively and you can't trust Gurianov at all. Have you at least considered that? Keefe would never play Gurianov at all.
 
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Jerkbait

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I think both teams are having success this season however both players mentioned haven't played a *huge* part in that success.

How would both teams feel about a Gurionov for Kerfoot swap?

Toronto gets a larger body up front but gives up the more productive player.

Dallas may like the low real dollars owed to Kerfoot.

Maybe 1 or both teams get something out of the acquired player to help elevate the team another level?
No...leafs won't mess with a winning formula yet.......yet....

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Zubrus Coffee Maker

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Are you people absolutely boxed? Kerfoot is absolutely atrocious. $3.5M for a guy who’s an offensive black hole and one of the most vanilla players in the national league. I’d take Gurianov and run. Put him on Matthews’ or Tavares’ wing and see what happens. Kerfoot absolutely reeks, you can find penalty killers anywhere you want that make close to league minimum. Terrible player.
He had 51 points last year..
 
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Aashir Mallik

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I’d do this every day of the week and twice on sunday

Gurianov might be able to play 2LW for us at his best, and at worst he plays bottom 6

Kerfoot, people overrate, yea he pks, but we have Marner, kampf, engvall, Jarnkrok. I’d much rather try and get an offensive spark
 
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WTFMAN99

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No...leafs won't mess with a winning formula yet.......yet....

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Kerfoot isn't a big part of the winning formula

Likewise, Gurionov hasn't been a big part of Dallas's success.

You can say both teams may not want to mess with success which is a conservative view...another view is both teams might want to see if either fits better than what they currently have to push the team to another level.

Idea came about to see if both teams could try to turn something into nothing.

Gurionov is bigger, quite fast and a good shot. Might be able to do something beside JT and Marner with good O-zone starts.

Kerfoot's all around game and versatility could give Dallas some different looks to work with if they've been dissatisfied with Gurionov.
 

LeafChief

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Are you people absolutely boxed? Kerfoot is absolutely atrocious. $3.5M for a guy who’s an offensive black hole and one of the most vanilla players in the national league. I’d take Gurianov and run. Put him on Matthews’ or Tavares’ wing and see what happens. Kerfoot absolutely reeks, you can find penalty killers anywhere you want that make close to league minimum. Terrible player.

The bolded actually made me laugh out loud.

With regards to the thread, I haven't really followed Gurianov much. Does he play with any edge?
 

Sidney the Kidney

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IMO, Gurianov is a better fit for the Leafs' top six especially come playoff time. Whatever defense/PK duties Kerfoot has with the Leafs, there's more than enough forwards who can do that stuff. Gurianov potentially adds another goal scorer (if he can find his game after a trade), more size, and more physicality.
 

Jerkbait

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Kerfoot isn't a big part of the winning formula

Likewise, Gurionov hasn't been a big part of Dallas's success.

You can say both teams may not want to mess with success which is a conservative view...another view is both teams might want to see if either fits better than what they currently have to push the team to another level.

Idea came about to see if both teams could try to turn something into nothing.

Gurionov is bigger, quite fast and a good shot. Might be able to do something beside JT and Marner with good O-zone starts.

Kerfoot's all around game and versatility could give Dallas some different looks to work with if they've been dissatisfied with Gurionov.
Again No...Toronto continues to win basically every game, the time isn't now ..
.I agree kerfoot isn't a key pc but it's a really simple as if it's not broke dont fix it ....
 

AvroArrow

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Kerfoot is not a bad player, he is just misused. He's the perfect 3rd line player, provides some offence, can PK and responsible defensively. He might be a bone head on offence but you need guys that aren't a complete liability. Much like Dion Phaneuf and Tyler Bozak he's just being misused because he's the best option for our weakest position, LW. Phaneuf was the perfect 2nd pairing guy, Bozak was the perfect 3C, but you force them into the 1D and 1C spot, they'll look like trash.
 

SnizzNasty88

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The bolded actually made me laugh out loud.

With regards to the thread, I haven't really followed Gurianov much. Does he play with any edge?

Hahaha good stuff. Sometimes, but he’s big and fast and has proven he can score goals. Obviously struggling but maybe a change of scenery and playing with some elite talent can resurrect his career. Imagine not doing this deal all day. Kerfucck is awful and brings nothing to the table. Let’s also not forget how he pretty much single handedly costed us in the yoffs last year
The bolded actually made me laugh out loud.

With regards to the thread, I haven't really followed Gurianov much. Does he play with any edge?
 

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