Could there be anything more insulting than being traded for a 4th round draft pick?

[PistolPete]

Having a strong interest in NHL history I have come across many trades where a player who is a regular on the team that traded him was traded for a 4th round (or later) draft pick.

How deflating must that be? Both GMs have decided you're not even worth a 3rd round never mind a second round or 1st round pick.

And it's not just a fourth line regular, but often times a third line or even borderline second line kind of player.

That has got to kill the ego

 

[AvroArrow]

I imagine a 5th/6th/7th or future considerations is worse

 

[Dumais]

Future considerations and the teams never trade again would be worse in my opinion.

 

[Kryten]

Future considerations

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Kris Draper was traded for a dollar.

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Of course, you could be traded for the other team's bus:

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[Mrfenn92]

Insulting to still be wanted by another nhl team?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

I think if you are a bottom pairing defensemen and a team trades a 4th for you. You are most likely going to a playoff team I don't see that being embarassing I see I am worth something.

Future considerations means you are free. That is embarassing.

 

[PistolPete]

Kris Draper was traded for a dollar.

At least it was something of value.

Once you get past the 3rd round the likelihood of picking a player who will play any games is extremely low.

 

[PistolPete]

Insulting to still be wanted by another nhl team?

That's one way of looking at too I guess lol

 

[Bear of Bad News]

At least it was something of value.

Once you get past the 3rd round the likelihood of picking a player who will play any games is extremely low.

Draft picks are lottery tickets, and that's well known.

I'd wager that the average expected value of a seventh-round NHL draft pick is more than one dollar.

 

[PistolPete]

Of course, you could be traded for the other team's bus:

One Of A Kind Trade

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That's impressive.

Buses are expensive!

 

[Dr Robot]

Getting trade for a bucket of baseballs would be more insulting. Especially for a hockey player.

 

[PistolPete]

Draft picks are lottery tickets, and that's well known.

I'd wager that the average expected value of a seventh-round NHL draft pick is more than one dollar.

This reminded me of one draft year where one team sold most of its draft picks to another team for cash ( I think they were 8th, 9th and higher)
I want to say Montreal and NYI were involved

 

[hangman005]

This seems to scream to Vegas Clearing cap.

Patches and Coghlan to the Canes for Future Considerations
MAF for a minor league player

 

[Moose Head]

Waivers for the purposes of contract termination is the most insulting way to leave a team

 

[57special]

Just from my present team alone;

Kaprizov - 5th round pick
Spurgeon - 6th round
Middleton - last pick of the draft
Zuccarello - undrafted

 

[JoVel]

I'd say it's more insulting when a team is willing to give up assets to get rid of you.

 

[PistolPete]

Just from my present team alone;

Kaprizov - 5th round pick
Spurgeon - 6th round
Middleton - last pick of the draft
Zuccarello - undrafted

Out of how many total picks?

Yeah, sometimes a team gets lucky but the chances are so minimal that trading away a 4th round pick or later is like trading a $1 scratch ticket.

 

[PistolPete]

I'd say it's more insulting when a team is willing to give up assets to get rid of you.

You mean like a salary dump - and you're the dump?

 

[Summer Rose]

Future considerations and the teams never trade again would be worse in my opinion.

Getting trade for a bucket of baseballs would be more insulting. Especially for a hockey player.

In baseball you can make a trade where the return is a "player to be named later." From what I know, this is basically one team saying "you can have this guy for now, we'll figure out what we want back at some other time." Although unlike "future considerations" in hockey (effectively legalese for "for free" or something trivial including some funny little things), they do eventually figure out what goes back in return.

Harry Chiti was once traded for a "player to be named later." However, the two teams agreed to complete the trade 15 games later by sending him back to his original team. By a creative stretch of definitions, he was technically traded for himself. I wonder how that one felt for his ego.

 

[Brodeur]

Having a strong interest in NHL history I have come across many trades where a player who is a regular on the team that traded him was traded for a 4th round (or later) draft pick.

How deflating must that be? Both GMs have decided you're not even worth a 3rd round never mind a second round or 1st round pick.

And it's not just a fourth line regular, but often times a third line or even borderline second line kind of player.

That has got to kill the ego

I was reminded of a young Danny Briere clearing waivers. Years after the fact, Briere admitted that he was a bit of a pain to deal with since he thought his skill alone would keep him in the NHL. But when all 30 teams passed on him, he had to reassess things. To his credit he changed his mentality and worked his way back into the league.

Being traded for a fourth round pick is oddly specific. One trade that popped in my mind was Columbus dealing Grant Marshall to the Devils for a 4th at the 2003 deadline. Pretty sure Marshall was happy to be moved from a non-playoff team to a contender.

I'd have to figure most depth guys aren't expecting that they'd be traded for firsts and top prospects. They'd probably be more concerned about how the new team would use them and how that might affect the next paycheck.

Maybe some ego bruising for the failed to launch formerly highly touted draft picks. But I'm sure somebody like Vasili Podkolzin or Phil Tomasino was okay with a change of scenery rather than being worried about his trade value. Probably better than say somebody like Nolan Foote clearing waivers and riding the buses in the AHL.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

Walman trade might be the most insulting.

 

[Patdud]

Getting traded WITH a pick for FC takes the cake.

 

[The Nuge]

Of course, you could be traded for the other team's bus:

One Of A Kind Trade

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