Pre-Game Talk: Countdown thread to 24-25 Season (T - 12 days) - Main Cam

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Who's going to be the surprise of this camp ?

  • Beck

    Votes: 10 4.5%
  • Kapanen

    Votes: 129 58.6%
  • Heineman

    Votes: 3 1.4%
  • Mesar

    Votes: 16 7.3%
  • Engstrom

    Votes: 35 15.9%
  • Farrell

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Trudeau

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • F. Xhekaj

    Votes: 7 3.2%
  • Tuch

    Votes: 12 5.5%
  • Hughes

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • Davidson

    Votes: 4 1.8%
  • Kidney

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    220

Redux91

I do Three bullets.
Sep 5, 2006
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There’s no reason not to put 2 dmen on the 2nd PP unit. Gally/Anderson/Dvorak/Armia have 17 PPP combined in the last 2 seasons. That is unbelievably bad.
There is
When you have
Suzuki
Caufield
Slafkovsky
Laine
Dach
Newhook
Roy
And soon Demidov

There is no universe any of our PP units ever have more than 1 D
 

The Great Weal

Phil's Pizza
Jan 15, 2015
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That still doesn't answer who is in front of the net on that PP. None of the other forwards currently on it really fit there.

Having 2 D on PP2 would likely be at the cost of Roy, not Gallagher.
Those guys aren’t doing anything on the PP. I do agree that Roy will be taken out instead of Gallagher but it’s obviously the wrong call.
There is
When you have
Suzuki
Caufield
Slafkovsky
Laine
Dach
Newhook
Roy
And soon Demidov

There is no universe any of our PP units ever have more than 1 D
So that’s 7 forwards in the current NHL lineup. 4 on the 1st unit and 3 on the 2nd unit. There’s your universe.
Who's the PP force of nature on D that's being put there instead?
You’re right, there needs to be a PP force of nature to replace the high end offensive juggernauts of Dvorak/Armia/Anderson/Gallagher and their combined 17 PPP in 2 seasons.

Clearly a dman that would put up even 6 PPP in one season and beat each of these guys is a HOF offensive dman since replacing that kind of elite production is simply impossible.
 
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Captain Mountain

Formerly Captain Wolverine
Jun 6, 2010
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You’re right, there needs to be a PP force of nature to replace the high end offensive juggernauts of Dvorak/Armia/Anderson/Gallagher and their combined 17 PPP in 2 seasons.

Clearly a dman that would put up even 6 PPP in one season and beat each of these guys is a HOF offensive dman since replacing that kind of elite production is simply impossible.

If you're so dramatically advocating starting out with a clearly sub-optimal PP setup to give ice time to either Barron or D that aren't remotely effective on the PP, then the argument should be more than pointing out players who aren't known as PP guys didn't produce on shit PP units.

What's the strategy?
 

The Great Weal

Phil's Pizza
Jan 15, 2015
54,108
68,816
If you're so dramatically advocating starting out with a clearly sub-optimal PP setup to give ice time to either Barron or D that aren't remotely effective on the PP, then the argument should be more than pointing out players who aren't known as PP guys didn't produce on shit PP units.

What's the strategy?
Yes I’m the one dramatically talking, not the guy who said we need a “PP force of nature” to replace dog shit production between 4 players across 2 seasons.

Claiming that Barron or another D won’t even remotely be effective compared to those 4 is hilarious.

The strategy is to play the more skilled players on the PP instead of those 4 to maybe help improve one of the worst PPs in the league in recent years. Guhles ES production is solid and Barron is known for offensive abilities despite his flaws. We also tried Xhekaj because of his shot.
 
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