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Could it be possible to go 82-0?

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Sorry about the summer type thread and my English, laugh and lock it all up.

I have been playing the most idiotic NHL game, the one that EA made it, and one season I got 10 81-1-0 when I played the games, I had a 62 game win streak.

This made my my wondering for a laugh that could it be possible for a team to win like that? If there was no salary cap?

For the arguments's sake, all the best players of the world in one team. Against all other teams minus of course the players that play on the other side now.

Could it be possible?
 
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Possible sure, likely no.

Surely you already know the answer to this.....
 
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Chuck Norris Trophy said:
Sorry about the summer type thread and my English, laugh and lock it all up.

I have been playing the most idiotic NHL game, the one that EA made it, and one season I got 10 81-1-0 when I played the games, I had a 62 game win streak.

This made my my wondering for a laugh that could it be possible for a team to win like that? If there was no salary cap?

For the arguments's sake, all the best players of the world in one team. Against all other teams minus of course the players that play on the other side now.

Could it be possible?
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No.
 
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Possible yes, probable hell no.

Also bruns, avs and knights fan right now :laugh::
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Let's say a team's expected to win 70% of their games, aka the team is extremely good.

In such a situation, the probability of going 82-0 is around 0.000000002%

If it's expected to be around 85% winrate then the probability is around 0.00016%

I don't think higher expected win rates are very reasonable. Even now, all-star teams lose to AHL squads every now and then.
 
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I guess...if one team could put 600 NHLers under contract...and then cherrypick through them as to who plays on a given day.
 
Chuck Norris Trophy said:
Sorry about the summer type thread and my English, laugh and lock it all up.

I have been playing the most idiotic NHL game, the one that EA made it, and one season I got 10 81-1-0 when I played the games, I had a 62 game win streak.

This made my my wondering for a laugh that could it be possible for a team to win like that? If there was no salary cap?

For the arguments's sake, all the best players of the world in one team. Against all other teams minus of course the players that play on the other side now.

Could it be possible?
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It’s not possible. By definition.
 
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Yeah it would be possible to go 82-0 and it could even be done under the salary cap. But you would have to give me free hands with everything else and a large supporting cast to study each NHL player and find out what makes them tick. Basically what makes them extra motivated to win and give 110 % and what kind of punishment do they fear if they lose.
 
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Sure you could, but the schedule is just too much. Three games in four nights? Yeah forgeddabaoutit

It totally could be doesome with -20 less games and the schedule being reasonable. Why not
 
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Sure you could, but the schedule is just too much. Three games in four nights? Yeah forgeddabaoutit

It totally could be doesome with -20 less games and the schedule being reasonable. Why not
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On "why not", because hockey is too unpredictable as a game. For betting odds, even the most lopsided matchups get like +500. In some games such as basketball, similarly lopsided matchups might get +2000 odds.

Hockey has a significant luck factor, which is why records such as these are practically impossible to achieve, even with a massive material advantage.
 
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Opportunity for numbers-fun...

Team with a 98% chance of winning each game played would have a less-than-20% chance of going 82-0.

If we boost the number up to 99%, the answer remains probably not (~44% chance of 82-0).

The win-probability for each individual game would need to be 99.2% in order for the 82-0 season to be better than a break-even proposition.
 
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On "why not", because hockey is too unpredictable as a game. For betting odds, even the most lopsided matchups get like +500. In some games such as basketball, similarly lopsided matchups might get +2000 odds.

Hockey has a significant luck factor, which is why records such as these are practically impossible to achieve, even with a massive material advantage.
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Yeah all of that is true.

I was thinking about a SC Winner caliber team, well rested before every game. It would make a huge difference. It would be damn hard of course, this isn't footy - where you can go unbeatable the whole season.
 
You've seen the NHL reff'in in action haven't you, no chance for 82-0








They might as well have Pro-Line on the back of their sweaters.
 
This was recently asked in a subreddit I follow.

That subreddit is about a hockey managing game and the question was in context of that game. Most people agreed it's almost impossible in that game, even if you eliminate salary cap and build a super team with the best players in the league.

IRL? Yeah, I'd say that's impossible. Even with the conditions you outlined it's not at all likely. I was going to present some calculations but I see @ijuka and @ChiTownPhilly already did, kudos to them.

Also, mate, your English is fine!
 
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Pens have the longest streak in NHL history at 17 games done in 92-93.

That's 65 games away from 82-0. That season they played 84 games, so Pittsburgh was 67 wins away.
 
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Just looking at early NHL records with far fewer games and far fewer teams show's no one perfectly winning the regular season. If it couldn't be done back then it certainly won't happen today.

Heck with the NFL it looks like there's only been a few perfect regular season records and that's a far shorter schedule than the NHL. (Also, I say the NFL is far less "random" than hockey)

The only way a team is getting a perfect regular season record is if it's early in the season... and then some sort of catastrophe strikes and cancels the rest of the season.
 
Has such a thing ever been done in soccer even? Yes, there have been unbeatable seasons like Arsenal in 03-04, but no team has probably gone on to win all of their games in a season? And we are talking about a sport where the top teams in general are much greater than top teams in the NHL.

Apparently the Patriots did it in NFL in 2007, but that's 16 games. Most soccer leagues have at least twice more, NHL 5 times more games.
 
Independent probability and dependent probability calculations aren't the same thing, people. Hockey games are most certainly not independent of previously played games.

But no. There aren't enough scoring events in a hockey game for chance not to play a large factor in every game. Even the highest scoring team in league history "only" averaged slightly over 5.5 goals per game. While that sounds like a ton of total goals, that means that a not insignificant of games will be low scoring affairs from our protagonist team. And those are the killer.
 
No. Not in a plausible sense. The margins are too small so the odds in any particular game to win aren’t that high in an absolute sense that 82 consecutive wins is statistically impossible for all intents and purposes.
 
No not even team Canada would go 82-0.

Especially not in a sport as "random" as Hockey where 2-3 bad bounces and it's 2-3 goals you're down.

I think 30-40 would be the limit for Team Canada.
 
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