Could a player on a team that did not make the SCF win the Conn Smythe?

[MMC]

The Conn Smythe trophy is awarded to the player that is the MVP of his team during the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Says nothing about the Finals.

 

[HF007]

Forsberg would be the closest, he lead the playoffs twice in scoring without making the finals!

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Possibility.

But it also doesn't say the winning team gets the conn Smyth player.

But that happens almost every time. Generally the winner of the trophy plays above and beyond and with that play a team should make the finals.

 

[Butch 19]

The Conn Smythe trophy is awarded to the player that is the MVP of his team during the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Says nothing about the Finals.

The losing team in the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs has a team MVP.

 

[pucka lucka]

The Conn Smythe trophy is awarded to the player that is the MVP of his team during the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Says nothing about the Finals.

Pretty sure this has happened once before.

 

[Yung Rotini]

Giguere won it as a Stanley cup finalist, but I don't think there's been a win by a player who didn't make the final.

 

[Plural]

Don't see it happening and would not want to see it happening.

Forsberg was not close to getting it, while leading the playoffs in points twice even when missing the finals.

The most important hockey happens in the finals. Missing them, is like missing 25% of the season. So, it's playing 61 games in the RS and winning the Hart on a team that fails to make the playoffs.

 

[Plural]

Pretty sure this has happened once before.

When?

I doubt it has.

Edit:

Five winners outside of the Cup team.

Crozier: Lost in the finals.
Hall: Lost in the finals.
Leach: Lost in the finals.
Hextall: Lost in the finals.
Jiggy: Lost in the finals.

 

[Straight Fire]

It's happened five times where the winner comes from defeated team. The last time was in 2003 with Jean Sabastian Giguere.

I don't think its ever been won by someone who wasn't in the finals.

 

[MMC]

Stop bringing up winners that made the final but didn't win the cup. I'm aware of that and that wasn't part of the question.

 

[mouser]

Stop bringing up winners that made the final but didn't win the cup. I'm aware of that and that wasn't part of the question.

Well, then the simple answer to your thread question is: Yes

The Conn Smythe eligibility criteria don't require that the winner made it to the Finals.

 

[Plural]

Well, then the simple answer to your thread question is: Yes

The Conn Smythe eligibility criteria don't require that the winner made it to the Finals.

Is there any "official" eligibility criteria? Or is the nhl.com Conn Smythe explanation the only correct one?

 

[Alexei Yashvalev]

If his team didn't make the final he can't have been that valuable.

 

[TheStranger]

If his team didn't make the final he can't have been that valuable.

I mean, technically a goalie could have 15 shutouts in 3 rounds and lose in 7 games with 4 losses of 1-0 in the conference finals.

 

[Tarasenko]

If his team didn't make the final he can't have been that valuable.

This sums up pretty much why it never happened.

 

[trick9]

Yes if you score ~50-60 points in 21 games and lose the game 7 of the Conference finals.

 

[Inkling]

Theoretically…yes.

Practically…no.

Won't happen but there's nothing in the rules to say it couldn't.

 

[RedWingsForPresident]

I doubt it would ever happen, especially now days. I remember Forsberg in 02 was eliminated in the WCF in 7, but a lot of people still thought he should have won it. He led the entire playoffs with 27 points in 20 games and didn't even make the Final. Would have been hard not to give him a legit shot at it

 

[sharks9]

I mean, technically a goalie could have 15 shutouts in 3 rounds and lose in 7 games with 4 losses of 1-0 in the conference finals.

That's really the only possibility of it ever happening. A goalie would need to play out of his mind for 3 rounds but then barely lose.

You'd also need there to not be any real outstanding players from either of the Cup Finals teams.

 

[aemoreira1981]

If it did not happen when Peter Forsberg led the league in playoff scoring the year he did (I think it was 2002), I don't see it ever happening.

 

[patnyrnyg]

Happened to me 3 times in NHL 96. All 3 times, the computer gave the Conn Smythe to the leading play-off scorer, even though they didn't make the finals. So yes, it can happen.

 

[CraigsList]

That'd be kind of awkward to award it to someone that didn't make the finals.

 

[Trap Jesus]

I'm just going to go ahead and say no. With a finalist winning it, they're still playing all the games. Not playing an entire series is a huge chunk when you're only dealing with 4 series.

 

[torlev*]

That's really the only possibility of it ever happening. A goalie would need to play out of his mind for 3 rounds but then barely lose.

You'd also need there to not be any real outstanding players from either of the Cup Finals teams.

I think you most likely mean 11 shutouts. 15 shutouts would have them winning three rounds, and in the final.

 

[pm88]

I dont ever see this happening. I honestly don't think its ever happened in any of the major sports actually