OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) thread

[PuckLuck3043]

The number of cases in the US is widely known to be MUCH more than what has been reported. That’s the issue.

Also, people aren’t accounting for the deaths of people who require ICU treatment for other issues who won’t be able to if this gets as bad as Italy. There won’t be enough beds or equipment to treat people. That’s not someone dying from the virus but is a direct effect.

Seems like they were able to handle the 370,000 hospitalizations from the flu this season.

 

[Crease]

One hopeful silver lining from this is that we will hopefully emerge better prepared for a future pandemic with a much higher fatality rate.

I'm also hoping for sea change in work from home culture. My firm is using this as an opportunity to optimize work from home capabilities, which I appreciate.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

We don't need sunshine and rainbows but we're all trying to vigilant here. So can we keep the doomsday scenarios to a minimum? All they do is flame panic. Some of these scenarios we can't even do anything about, so what's the point here?

 

[will1066]

That's fair but you don't want to go crazy before the fire gets there.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy because of social media and its immediateness. People in the hot zones and the middle of suffering are going to post about it to others. To say the media only is responsible for fanning the flames is not accurate. A lot of people get their news today from their social media feeds and it's a whole lot less controlled than TV news.

 

[will1066]

The number of cases in the US is widely known to be MUCH more than what has been reported. That’s the issue.

Also, people aren’t accounting for the deaths of people who require ICU treatment for other issues who won’t be able to if this gets as bad as Italy. There won’t be enough beds or equipment to treat people. That’s not someone dying from the virus but is a direct effect.

Collateral damage

 

[SnowblindNYR]

It's a self fulfilling prophecy because of social media and its immediateness. People in the hot zones and the middle of suffering are going to post about it to others. To say the media only is responsible for fanning the flames is not accurate.

Yes, social media plays a large role. That's why some of the posts are irresponsible. There needs to be a middle ground between "it's not serious" and "we're all going to die!" Unfortunately, much like in politics you don't see that middle ground.

 

[Doctyl]

Yes, social media plays a large role. That's why some of the posts are irresponsible. There needs to be a middle ground between "it's not serious" and "we're all going to die!" Unfortunately, much like in politics you don't see that middle ground.

Who here has said we’re all going to die?

 

[will1066]

Yes, social media plays a large role. That's why some of the posts are irresponsible. There needs to be a middle ground between "it's not serious" and "we're all going to die!" Unfortunately, much like in politics you don't see that middle ground.

Unfortunately in times like these we have people of all types who can post on social media

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Who has said we’re all going to die?

It's obviously hyperbole. But some of the stuff out there is unnecessary. At some point, the curve of what we as individuals can do flattens out, but the curve of how much panic we can experience continues to grow.

 

[Doctyl]

It's obviously hyperbole. But some of the stuff out there is unnecessary. At some point, the curve of what we as individuals can do flattens out, but the curve of how much panic we can experience continues to grow.

I agree. Taking the measures that most people are taking is all we can to try to mitigate the spread of this virus. Trying to limit exposure to large amounts of people, washing hands, distance learning for those in school, canceling sporting events, etc. are important public safety measures that are not hyperbolic if the number of people infected is really that much higher than the current confirmed cases. Now of course that doesn’t mean go and by all of the toilet paper you can find, I have no idea where that nonsense came from.

That said, pretending it’s not that bad, it’s a conspiracy by the media, or it’s no worse than the flu gives false security. That should be corrected with the publicly available evidence. This situation should be stressful and inconvenient to our lives. It shouldn’t consume our every waking thought (unless us or a loved one is ill), but we should be conscientious and aware about basic hygiene and health habits, perhaps more than usual.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I agree. Taking the measures that most people are taking is all we can to try to mitigate the spread of this virus. Trying to limit exposure to large amounts of people, washing hands, distance learning for those in school, canceling sporting events, etc. are important public safety measures that are not hyperbolic if the number of people infected is really that much higher than the current confirmed cases. Now of course that doesn’t mean go and by all of the toilet paper you can find, I have no idea where that nonsense came from.

That said, pretending it’s not that bad, it’s a conspiracy by the media, or it’s no worse than the flu gives false security. That should be corrected with the publicly available evidence. This situation should be stressful and inconvenient to our lives. It shouldn’t consume our every waking thought (unless us or a loved one is ill), but we should be conscientious and aware about basic hygiene and health habits, perhaps more than usual.

That's fair. I guess the only thing I'll say is that if there's only so much we can do anyway, considering there are certain things we must do like work and there are certain things we've been restricted from doing that we have no choice not to do, like go to large gatherings, then don't you think there may be a benefit for some people to have that false security? Maybe that's their coping mechanism and is the only thing that will keep them from destructive behavior.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

That's fair. I guess the only thing I'll say is that if there's only so much we can do anyway, considering there are certain things we must do like work and there are certain things we've been restricted from doing that we have no choice not to do, like go to large gatherings, then don't you think there may be a benefit for some people to have that false security? Maybe that's their coping mechanism and is the only thing that will keep them from destructive behavior.

Exactly. People up near me still don't seem to be taking it seriously , especially young people. All the bars are still full every night. We're going to learn just how ignorant and selfish most of us can be.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Exactly. People up near me still don't seem to be taking it seriously , especially young people. All the bars are still full every night. We're going to learn just how ignorant and selfish most of us can be.

Really? I wouldn't have thought bars would still be full. I figured they'd have a serious drop-off.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Exactly. People up near me still don't seem to be taking it seriously , especially young people. All the bars are still full every night. We're going to learn just how ignorant and selfish most of us can be.

Do people have to put their entire lives on hold? People can't go to bars now? Are they supposed to stay inside for 2 weeks even though they are healthy and feel fine? My wife and I went out to eat last night. Are we being selfish too? Good Lord.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Do people have to put their entire lives on hold? People can't go to bars now? Are they supposed to stay inside for 2 weeks even though they are healthy and feel fine? My wife and I went out to eat last night. Are we being selfish too? Good Lord.

I kind of thought like this but I'm not sure anymore. Supposedly you can have it and see no symptoms. There has to be a balance between vigilance and stopping the world.

 

[Irishguy42]

Really? I wouldn't have thought bars would still be full. I figured they'd have a serious drop-off.

When people like this exist, anything is possible.

My fiancee and I went for a booze run today (and exercise) and saw a lot of restaurants just totally filled up, as if nothing was going on.

I kind of thought like this but I'm not sure anymore. Supposedly you can have it and see no symptoms. There has to be a balance between vigilance and stopping the world.

Yeah, you can definitely have it and be contagious without being symptomatic.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I went for a walk today in mostly empty streets. But I won't go anywhere crowded that's my compromise. I still live life but I'm careful.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

When people like this exist, anything is possible.

My fiancee and I went for a booze run today (and exercise) and saw a lot of restaurants just totally filled up, as if nothing was going on.

Yeah, you can definitely have it and be contagious without being symptomatic.

What I find most surprising is that he's a nurse and says that. I mean, I can see people wanting to continue normalcy and live life. And some people go overboard and tell you to stop working. That said, yeah this is probably stupid.

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

Cracked into one of the three cases off whiskey I bought earlier this week in preparation of the possible virus quarantine. Very tasty indeed.

Bob Dylan has never let me down. The other two cases are Blanton's and Woodford.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Cracked into one of the three cases off whiskey I bought earlier this week in preparation of the possible virus quarantine. Very tasty indeed.View attachment 336005 Bob Dylan has never let me down. The other two cases are Blanton's and Woodford.

To me alcohol is a social thing so that unfortunately wouldn't work for me in quarantine.

 

[Irishguy42]

 

[MyLoveIsBlue]

To me alcohol is a social thing so that unfortunately wouldn't work for me in quarantine.

Well, come on over. I have an old fashion knock hockey table in the game room. We can have a best 4 out of seven series and have a drink. Any hockey is better than no hockey at all.

 

[bl02]

Wonderful. It’s gonna be great when they over grandma’s tomorrow for Sunday dinner and share although the good stuff to her.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

When people like this exist, anything is possible.

My fiancee and I went for a booze run today (and exercise) and saw a lot of restaurants just totally filled up, as if nothing was going on.

Yeah, you can definitely have it and be contagious without being symptomatic.

Good. People should be living their lives. 1% of people will get it and almost all of them will recover from it.

I guess we could all just hide inside and everyone lose their jobs and businesses though.

 

[Irishguy42]

Good. People should be living their lives. 1% of people will get it and almost all of them will recover from it.

I guess we could all just hide inside and everyone lose their jobs and businesses though.

It's not just about whether you're going to get it and the chances you recover from it. It's also about you potentially spreading it to other people who may not have it and then will pass it onto other unknowingly, or even you getting it and then spreading it to the people in your lives.

Yes, people should be living their lives, but not like this. Be responsible. What these people are doing is not responsible.

Really not that difficult to understand or do.