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Crease said:
In positive news:

Abbott Laboratories is unveiling a coronavirus test that can tell if someone is infected in as little as five minutes, and is so small and portable it can be used in almost any health-care setting.

The medical-device maker plans to supply 50,000 tests a day starting April 1, said John Frels, vice president of research and development at Abbott Diagnostics. The molecular test looks for fragments of the coronavirus genome, which can quickly be detected when present at high levels. A thorough search to definitively rule out an infection can take up to 13 minutes, he said.
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Source: Abbott Launches 5-Minute Virus Test for Use Almost Anywhere
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Well, I'm still mad at Abbott for stopping production of Myoplex, but this is a start.
 
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eco's bones said:
I know a lot of people don't like Dolan--I was kind of there a while back. For one thing I'm not a fan of billionaires to begin with. That said he's first class in to the players on his teams. He also does a lot of good stuff. A friend of mine who is now a retired firefighter (als0 a Bruins fan) traveled as part of an entourage with another fireman (who was a Rangers fan and dying from cancer) and his family from upstate New York to games at MSG and they were put up in hotels, watched games from luxury boxes, met players---the whole nine yards gratis by the Rangers and the Rangers kept up with that family throughout that ordeal--even donating stuff for charity auctions. The Rangers have a lot of outreach all over NYS and do go to considerable effort with it. So I for one have no problem wishing Dolan the best.
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Agreed. Knicks owner Dolan can seem like a cartoonishly thin skinned guy who is highly incompetent and unable do anything right. Rangers owner Dolan is a class act who lets the Hockey people run the team and always seems to be helping good causes. The Knicks are seen by other players as a team to avoid while the Rangers are a draw in free agency.

All that said, I am rooting for everyone to beat this virus. Even those that I don’t like at all. I hope Dolan recovers and goes touring with the Eagles again soon and I can go back to complaining about him owning the Knicks.
 
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Machinehead said:
We've heard about flattening the curve but I think there's a different curve at play here:

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Most viruses exist on this curve. The deadlier they are, the harder they are to catch. The more infectious, the less dangerous. The common cold is nearly literally impossible to avoid but carries an almost negligible mortality. The recent ebola outbreak had a massive mortality rate but ended at just over 28,000 cases world wide, a number the coronavirus has soared past.

It mutated in such a way that it found itself off the curve. That's why things are the way they are. We got really unlucky. The good news is, it's going to mutate again eventually, and it's extremely likely that this mutation will make it weaker.
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This virus isn't a mutation of anything, it's a jump from a bat eaten or slaughtered by a human. Bats have insane immune systems, strongest in nature. So viruses that can survive in their systems tend to be extremely virulent, and this just so happened to affect human biology when it made the jump
 
Baby Duck Homme said:
Agreed. Knicks owner Dolan can seem like a cartoonishly thin skinned guy who is highly incompetent and unable do anything right. Rangers owner Dolan is a class act who lets the Hockey people run the team and always seems to be helping good causes. The Knicks are seen by other players as a team to avoid while the Rangers are a draw in free agency.

All that said, I am rooting for everyone to beat this virus. Even those that I don’t like at all. I hope Dolan recovers and goes touring with the Eagles again soon and I can go back to complaining about him owning the Knicks.
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I used to be a Knicks fan but that was long ago so I can't really speak to that---but he's hired good hockey people and he lets them do their job.....and I'm with you I don't want anyone to die or be hurt by this. I loved when Cuomo said that 'my mother is not expendable' and then went on to say no one else is either. It would be nice if some others thought that way. Since Nov. 2012 I've lost several family members--it's not easy though some are harder than others. They've all left a vacuum that's pretty much not fillable.
 
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eco's bones said:
I used to be a Knicks fan but that was long ago so I can't really speak to that---but he's hired good hockey people and he lets them do their job.....and I'm with you I don't want anyone to die or be hurt by this. I loved when Cuomo said that 'my mother is not expendable' and then went on to say no one else is either. It would be nice if some others thought that way. Since Nov. 2012 I've lost several family members--it's not easy though some are harder than others. They've all left a vacuum that's pretty much not fillable.
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My mother and sister were both nurses, they were RNs. They each passed some years ago but if they were here now they would be pulling double shifts.

I am in awe of the dedication and service of doctors and nurses during this pandemic. The courage is off the charts but they do it because they truly care and want to save people. There are a lot of memes right now that heroes don’t wear capes, they wear scrubs and I couldn’t agree more.

a good friend of mine, who I consider a little brother, is an ER doctor in Florida. He is a pediatrician but they have converted all pediatric wards to ICU beds for adults. He is practicing intubating people right now. I told him I love him and that he needs to be crazy careful. This pandemic will take some of our best, brightest and most willing to serve their fellow man.
 
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I appreciate Dolan's hands-off approach with the Rangers because that's what the needs to do with the Knicks. Let the decision-makers do their thing and cut the checks. The hard cap may have forced the Rangers to draft well and develop players because it always seemed like he'd get the guy on NHL video game cover two years after he was used it up. (Naslund)
 
My favorite comment ever: "there will be perpetual lockdown when it becomes COVID-20 later in the year."

Watch out folks,



COVID-XX in theaters this December!
 
Machinehead said:
We've heard about flattening the curve but I think there's a different curve at play here:

Coronavirus.png


(Not my work)

Most viruses exist on this curve. The deadlier they are, the harder they are to catch. The more infectious, the less dangerous. The common cold is nearly literally impossible to avoid but carries an almost negligible mortality. The recent ebola outbreak had a massive mortality rate but ended at just over 28,000 cases world wide, a number the coronavirus has soared past.

It mutated in such a way that it found itself off the curve. That's why things are the way they are. We got really unlucky. The good news is, it's going to mutate again eventually, and it's extremely likely that this mutation will make it weaker.
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Doesn't pass the eye test analytics boy. Sorry
 
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Machinehead said:
The good news is, it's going to mutate again eventually, and it's extremely likely that this mutation will make it weaker.
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That's not how mutations work.

If the virus mutated in a single person and that mutation was "weaker" that strain of the virus would die out pretty quickly.

It's not like the virus would suddenly mutate in all hosts at the same time and we'd be left with a new weaker strain that was tolerable.

Survival of the fittest... even among viruses... mutations that aren't advantageous tend to die out pretty quickly (unless something other than natural selection is at play).
 
Profet said:
That's not how mutations work.

If the virus mutated in a single person and that mutation was "weaker" that strain of the virus would die out pretty quickly.

It's not like the virus would suddenly mutate in all hosts at the same time and we'd be left with a new weaker strain that was tolerable.

Survival of the fittest... even among viruses... mutations that aren't advantageous tend to die out pretty quickly (unless something other than natural selection is at play).
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Listening to Gladwell recently on a podcast, he was discussing how more virulent strains cause people to become very sick and immobile. That people with weaker strains of viruses walk around and transmit it. Eventually the weaker strain becomes more prevalent.
 
Baby Duck Homme said:
My mother and sister were both nurses, they were RNs. They each passed some years ago but if they were here now they would be pulling double shifts.

I am in awe of the dedication and service of doctors and nurses during this pandemic. The courage is off the charts but they do it because they truly care and want to save people. There are a lot of memes right now that heroes don’t wear capes, they wear scrubs and I couldn’t agree more.

a good friend of mine, who I consider a little brother, is an ER doctor in Florida. He is a pediatrician but they have converted all pediatric wards to ICU beds for adults. He is practicing intubating people right now. I told him I love him and that he needs to be crazy careful. This pandemic will take some of our best, brightest and most willing to serve their fellow man.
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Actually my oldest sister was an RN and had a lot of experience in ICU's. She died in 2015 from what started out as ovarian cancer and 5 years later had mestasiphised throughout her body---that was about a week shy of her 61st birthday. That was maybe the toughest one to deal with. Nurses in hospitals--that's like a blue collar thing to me. I have 4 other brothers and sisters but her, my dad and me were the only ever Union people. She was the one of all my siblings I felt closest too. We didn't always agree on everything but she didn't take shit from anyone.
 
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eco's bones said:
Actually my oldest sister was an RN and had a lot of experience in ICU's. She died in 2015 from what started out as ovarian cancer and 5 years later had mestasiphised throughout her body---that was about a week shy of her 61st birthday. That was maybe the toughest one to deal with. Nurses in hospitals--that's like a blue collar thing to me. I have 4 other brothers and sisters but her, my dad and me were the only ever Union people. She was the one of all my siblings I felt closest too. We didn't always agree on everything but she didn't take shit from anyone.
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A lot of life is dealing with change and loss. It was 6 years ago yesterday that my mom passed. I take comfort that I came from her and was able to download a lot of wisdom and empathy from her. We all think our families will stay intact forever when we were young. Times of crisis like right now bring things into focus. The things that I worry about show me what I care most about.

I come here for a sense of normalcy because I visit these boards just about everyday as a matter of habit both in season and in the off season.

All we can do now is our own part. Be careful. Be safe. Stay out of the way while the sick get care. Donate or contribute what you can and try to stay sane. Hold on to the ones you love and check in your friends and family. I hope you keep well and that we are all complaining about how we are not getting calls from refs again soon. The sun will rise again and again. This will pass.
 
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