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Nice to be a teacher huh. Basically a paid vacation till September (no way they will re-open on April 21st)

My sister is a third grade teacher at a run-of-the-mill PS in Manhattan. Kids from all socioeconomic backgrounds. The teachers are going in this week for online teaching training and will begin virtual classrooms next Monday.
 
My sister is a third grade teacher at a run-of-the-mill PS in Manhattan. Kids from all socioeconomic backgrounds. The teachers are going in this week for online teaching training and will begin virtual classrooms next Monday.
My brother is also a public school teacher (I think 7th or 8th grade). These virtual classes are going to be a nightmare. He said plenty of the students can't even read. The education system in this city and country is pathetic. They just pass all the students. If you try to fail a student, you get grilled down and they want to find out if you did everything you can to help the student succeed. Ridiculous systems like this is why they all pass the students and let them become someone else's problem.
 
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My sister is a third grade teacher at a run-of-the-mill PS in Manhattan. Kids from all socioeconomic backgrounds. The teachers are going in this week for online teaching training and will begin virtual classrooms next Monday.

I don't know what the gripe is anyway. Teachers not getting paid doesn't help anything. People should worry about their own shit and not others.
 
Purchased 2 drones (apparently from China) when this all just came out. Supposed to receive it within a week to 10. After 3 weeks and no sign, no correspondence from company, I complained to PayPal and they took care that my charges were covered. In the interim, they apologized and explained it was because of the virus and plant was shutdown. They offered an apology free gift. Yeah right......will Lysol if it ever comes. But, I want my DRONES!
 
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January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 13: "I take no responsibility."
 
Looking at some numbers from South Korea is interesting. They’ve been the most aggressive country when it comes to testing. Their numbers follow the same pattern of the mortality rate increasing with age, but what struck me was that ~30% or the positive tests came from people age 20-29. People who are probably asymptomatic or have mild cold-flu like symptoms, but are capable of spreading it to more at risk people.

This isn’t meant to be alarmist. This just reinforces that even if you feel fine, social distancing is a responsibility to the safety of the public.
 
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So dumb that it took this long for such action.

Were they expecting things to get better over the past week?

president was, yeah. kept reassuring the public that we would be down to zero cases lol

I think this week is it for me. I have to have a conversation with my employer. can't risk my health, or the elderly folks I serve at work. can't see my boss closing the store, either, so I have to talk to them.
 
Looking at some numbers from South Korea is interesting. They’ve been the most aggressive country when it comes to testing. Their numbers follow the same pattern of the mortality rate increasing with age, but what struck me was that ~30% or the positive tests came from people age 20-29. People who are probably asymptomatic or have mild cold-flu like symptoms, but are capable of spreading it to more at risk people.

This isn’t meant to be alarmist. This just reinforces that even if you feel fine, social distancing is a responsibility to the safety of the public.

Agreed. The shame is, their numbers are going down dramatically because they have largely been able to trace contacts amongst positive testers. Meanwhile, we just let 3K+ people off a cruise ship where a passenger was positive and didn't test a single one.

We are beyond tracing and this is going to be with us a long time. I saw a chart yesterday that showed us being right at the point where Italy started getting insane. I think the next ten days are going to be especially bad.
 
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Agreed. The shame is, there numbers are going down dramatically because they have largely been able to trace contacts amongst positive testers. Meanwhile, we just let 3K+ people off a cruise ship where a passenger was positive and didn't test a single one.

We are beyond tracing and this is going to be with us a long time. I saw a chart yesterday that showed us being right at the point where Italy started getting insane. I think the next ten days are going to be especially bad.
I don’t think we’ll get quite as bad as Italy. Supposedly ppl were meeting socially at restaurants and cafes once work was canceled instead of practicing socially distancing. Hopefully we learn from their mistakes!
 
I don’t think we’ll get quite as bad as Italy. Supposedly ppl were meeting socially at restaurants and cafes once work was canceled instead of practicing socially distancing. Hopefully we learn from their mistakes!

It was the government's responsibility to learn from Italy's mistakes. We are about 10 days behind Italy and on an eerily similar trajectory. Toss in the fact that our healthcare system is not as equipped as their's to handle this sort of overflow and we are looking at dire straits. Italy's healthcare system is trash, but ours is third world. We also don't have paid sick leave so workers at many places that are open are still, undoubtedly, going in. The bill the congress is set to pash is shit and only enacts it for 20% of workers.

Moreover, while many people are undoubtedly changing their behaviors, the photos and videos from St. Paddy's pub crawls and Disney World, etc., make it clear that this thing is going to spread far and wide across the U.S.

The next ten days is going to be absolutely horrendous. I recently moved back to the U.S. from Warsaw, and I am feeling awful about it. Poland is behaving extremely aggresively, while my governor in Atlanta is doing nothing and will only react once everyone in Georgia is sick.

And if the federal government continues to leave it up to each individual state to do the right thing, some states will act appropriately, while others will be neglectful leading to viral outbreaks and overwhelmed hospitals.
 
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 13: "I take no responsibility.
That was me when my mom used to ask if I was in trouble in school.
 
It was the government's responsibility to learn from Italy's mistakes. We are about 10 days behind Italy and on an eerily similar trajectory. Toss in the fact that our healthcare system is not as equipped as their's to handle this sort of overflow and we are looking at dire straits. Italy's healthcare system is trash, but ours is third world. We also don't have paid sick leave so workers at many places that are open are still, undoubtedly, going in. The bill the congress is set to pash is shit and only enacts it for 20% of workers.

Moreover, while many people are undoubtedly changing their behaviors, the photos and videos from St. Paddy's pub crawls and Disney World, etc., make it clear that this thing is going to spread far and wide across the U.S.

The next ten days is going to be absolutely horrendous. I recently moved back to the U.S. from Warsaw, and I am feeling awful about it. Poland is behaving extremely aggresively, while my governor in Atlanta is doing nothing and will only react once everyone in Georgia is sick.

And if the federal government continues to leave it up to each individual state to do the right thing, some states will act appropriately, while others will be neglectful leading to viral outbreaks and overwhelmed hospitals.
TLDR we’re f***ed
 
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Nearly 4000 cruise passengers disembarked in Miami with a known positive case from a few days prior. No screenings whatsoever. Sounds about right.
 
Moreover, while many people are undoubtedly changing their behaviors, the photos and videos from St. Paddy's pub crawls and Disney World, etc., make it clear that this thing is going to spread far and wide across the U.S.
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As horrible as it is economically for New York, let’s be thankful ny shut down restaurants and pubs besides take out. We all know people will turn a blind eye and go out regardless without realizing they’re contributing to the spread.
 
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