OT: Coronavirus 4 - or is that thread 2.75?

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DaJackal

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People have gotten a taste of what they think is their ideal situation...especially teachers...and a lot of them don’t want to go back.

Three things are here to stay - Covid, masks, and asynchronous school days.

I know a lot of teachers in Finland and every single one of them wants to return to normal school days. Which is understandable, because the learning results just plummeted during the Zoom months. (In big picture, I mean. Of course there exists a certain percentage of students who learned better this way.)

Btw, just got my Pfizer #1 an hour ago. I have noticed no side effects besides rigorously going through my stuff trying to find a magnet.
 

Lempo

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Btw, just got my Pfizer #1 an hour ago. I have noticed no side effects besides rigorously going through my stuff trying to find a magnet.
You'd get the chip out like they did in the Christopher Lambert classic Thr Fortress?
 

The Stranger

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Interesting OpEd in the paper today about Covid-19's origin. Here should be a free link.

Apparently Covid19's sequence has a genetic marker common with gain of function research. Also, when China published the virus genome in Feb 2020, they omitted that specific portion.
 

Porvari

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The Finnish PM apparently got her first shot only today, a week after I got mine. I could pretend that this post is about the maniacally egalitarian Finnish vaccination policy, but woman hot.

 
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LakeLivin

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The Finnish PM apparently got her first shot only today, a week after I got mine. I could pretend that this post is about the maniacally egalitarian Finnish vaccination policy, but woman hot.



I had no idea that was Finland's Prime Minister. After seeing that picture I immediately googled "Sanna Marin in a bikini". Does that make me a bad person? :sarcasm:
 
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The Stranger

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Pfizer vaccine is now fully authorized by the FDA. The vaccination requirements probably will start rolling out at businesses more rapidly now.

This is an OpEd from the British Journal of Medicine regarding the FDA's approval of the vaccine.

Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine? - The BMJ

Apparently the data cited in the approval was old...from the initial trial published last spring.

The waning effect/loss of efficacy isn't addressed.

 
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ndp

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My mom got her booster (3rd) shot of Phizer Tuesday at the advice of her GP. She felt pretty crappy for 24 hours, slight fever and fatigue. Said she feels completely normal today other than the standard sore arm.

She wasn't very pleased with the pharmacist that administered the shot who told her the vaccine along with masks are pointless.
 

Navin R Slavin

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My mom got her booster (3rd) shot of Phizer Tuesday at the advice of her GP. She felt pretty crappy for 24 hours, slight fever and fatigue. Said she feels completely normal today other than the standard sore arm.

She wasn't very pleased with the pharmacist that administered the shot who told her the vaccine along with masks are pointless.

Wow.
 

ndp

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My mom was a trauma nurse and ER admin for 15 years while she finished her PhD in molecular biology from Duke. She then went on to work in clinical studies with WF for 10 years.

She said she wanted to light his ass up right then and there but a lady beside of her was asking for a COVID test while not wearing a mask so she just wanted to GTFO.

We're doomed.
 

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This is an OpEd from the British Journal of Medicine regarding the FDA's approval of the vaccine.

Does the FDA think these data justify the first full approval of a covid-19 vaccine? - The BMJ

Apparently the data cited in the approval was old...from the initial trial published last spring.

The waning effect/loss of efficacy isn't addressed.



i made it seven minutes and forty eight seconds. if i didn't have any clue whatsoever about how fda approval works it would be easy to go 'hey, yeah - that seems pretty off.'

but i know more than i'd probably like to about filings and approvals and what he seems to be complaining about is just how the process works. to me, he sounds like someone completely ignorant of hockey questioning players' competence for leaving the offensive zone just because the puck went just a little over that blue line.

approvals usually take months. there are procedural hurdles. lots of them. unless something in the original data triggers specific questions from the agency, the clinical data is not just updated along the way - the approval is based on the original clinical data. this approval is for covid. it is not for a specific variant. and at this point there may not be enough controlled variant specific data anyway. the data that cutoff at march 13th included six months of data. the fda, and the manufacturer know that things will change. it's not like there is one flu vaccine that was approved and no others came along to try to do better against varying flu strains. they state efficacy drops (which is the case with pretty much all vaccines), give the info from the original data, and call it a day. if they were crazy and filing for approval while making a claim like "85% effective for a full year" then they'd be boned (also, they wouldn't even have enough data to file yet). but there is no claim like that.

basically, the part of this video i watched looked like someone creating great content for those who want to complain that the fda was wrong to give approval - especially because approval makes mandates much easier.

or, it is just brits trying to get back at the fda for making them look stupid in the whole thalidomide thing 60ish years ago. (in spite of what your aunt's facebook may say, the fda didn't approve thalidomide until the 90s under specific conditions. less than twenty flipper babies were born in the US, and half of those got their thalidomide outside the country. the rest were in clinical trials.)
 

Navin R Slavin

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Why does it matter if it came from the Wuhan lab or not?

It definitely matters. If it came from the Wuhan lab, and that is provable, then China needs to be sanctioned for its lack of transparency, and then we need to learn precisely how it happened so it doesn't happen again.

Of course, what we tend to get instead is a toxic stew of sanctimonious bullshit about China Bad, as though this kind of research isn't happening right in our backyard.

Near Misses at UNC Chapel Hill’s High-Security Lab Illustrate Risk of Accidents With Coronaviruses — ProPublica
 

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I just recently got a 5G phone and since I am vaxxed I can now pick up radio waves and wifi no problem now. The mesh network of vaxxed people is just too good to be true. I am browsing this forum based on some gullible nerds implanted 5G vaccine, what a life.
That’s just Gates would have you say.
 

Negan4Coach

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That’s just Gates would have you say.

I like to point out to people that if Gates wanted to poison everyone with vaccines, he could have just contaminated the existing run-of-the-mill ones like MMR that everyone gets rather than going to the ass pain of inventing a phony pandemic and then trying to get everyone to take the new poison vaccine.
 

tarheelhockey

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I like to point out to people that if Gates wanted to poison everyone with vaccines, he could have just contaminated the existing run-of-the-mill ones like MMR that everyone gets rather than going to the ass pain of inventing a phony pandemic and then trying to get everyone to take the new poison vaccine.

If Gates wanted to take over, he would just quietly buy up the assets of the state and use them to consolidate control over the fundamental infrastructure of society. Paying off the politicians and judges would be the easy part.

The idea that he’s trying to achieve this with a big end-around involving food and medicine is honestly kind of funny in an unintentional-comedy sort of way.
 

MinJaBen

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If Gates wanted to take over, he would just quietly buy up the assets of the state and use them to consolidate control over the fundamental infrastructure of society. Paying off the politicians and judges would be the easy part.

The idea that he’s trying to achieve this with a big end-around involving food and medicine is honestly kind of funny in an unintentional-comedy sort of way.
If he wanted to take over the world, he'd never have cut Clippy out of the OS.
 
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