Value of: Conor Murphy to the Leafs

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

With Elliott Frediman saying that Chicago is taking offers on everybody not named Kane, Towes and Jones one guy I would be calling on is Conor Murphy.

The Leafs LD depth is pretty good with Rielly, Brodie, Muzzin, Sandin and Gio all on the left side.

But with Bush being a UFA and Holl probably being traded there are some holes on the right side.

Now you can partly fix that by moving Brodie to the right side but even still there is at least 1 , possibly 2 holes on the right side.

and no it's not as simple as signing Lilly to an extension he's already on the roster he's not replacing anybody

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[Pepper]

Oh great, another Sandin thread.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

God I would freaking love the Leafs getting Connor Murphy
he seems like the perfect type of Dman they need

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

American player with a 10 team no trade list. Pretty safe bet it includes all 7 Canadian teams. Toronto would also have a pain in the ass time fitting his 4.4M in there for the next 4 years and signing a starter. I am also assuming both Holl and Mrazek are moved out here and it's still rough

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Oh great, another Sandin thread.

pretty sure it says Connor Murphy and the OP mentioned more than just Sandin but okay

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

American player with a 10 team no trade list. Pretty safe bet it includes all 7 Canadian teams. Chicago would also have a pain in the ass time fitting his 4.4M in there for the next 4 years and signing a starter. I am also assuming both Holl and Mrazek are moved out here and it's still rough

Chicago is rebuilding they don't need a #1 right now, or to replace Murphy

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Connor Murphy 50% retained for Sandin/Knies, Holl and Mrazek

I doubt it’d take both but I’d be fine letting both Sandin/Knies go if that’s what’d it’d take. Definitely think Sandin is worth close to a top 10 pick and it’d take a 2nd to dump Mrazek. Holl is probably worth a 7th.

 

[Pepper]

pretty sure it says Connor Murphy and the OP mentioned more than just Sandin but okay

Yeah, I was about to say this is about the closest you can get to "Sandin for xxxxx" without specifically mentioning Sandin as the main piece from TOR.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Chicago is rebuilding they don't need a #1 right now, or to replace Murphy

Oh sorry that was a typo, This is what I meant:

"Toronto would also have a pain in the ass time fitting his 4.4M in there for the next 4 years and signing a starter."

 

[BlueBaron]

Connor Murphy 50% retained for Sandin/Knies, Holl and Mrazek

I doubt it’d take both but I’d be fine letting both Sandin/Knies go if that’s what’d it’d take. Definitely think Sandin is worth close to a top 10 pick and it’d take a 2nd to dump Mrazek. Holl is probably worth a 7th.

That's why you are fired.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Yeah, I was about to say this is about the closest you can get to "Sandin for xxxxx" without specifically mentioning Sandin as the main piece from TOR.

well thing is Sandin is exactly the type of player teams would look for. he's ready to play in the NHL and young enough to continue to grow. thats not to say he's the only piece but non the less a player almost every team would be interested in

 

[Taylorst]

Any deal involving murphy would require that team taking on his full salary and a high 1st round pick say top 10 plus a elite prospect. Toronto has nothing of significant value to entice chicago plus there salary cap situation doesn't give them much room.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Cap wise Chicago would need to take Mrazek + Holl

But Toronto would really need to add some enticing pieces to that package

 

[Mrfenn92]

Any deal involving murphy would require that team taking on his full salary and a high 1st round pick say top 10 plus a elite prospect. Toronto has nothing of significant value to entice chicago plus there salary cap situation doesn't give them much room.

No it wouldn’t

 

[Pepper]

well thing is Sandin is exactly the type of player teams would look for. he's ready to play in the NHL and young enough to continue to grow. thats not to say he's the only piece but non the less a player almost every team would be interested in

Well thing is that there's this possibility of Leafs fans overrating their assets - just like every other fanbase does - especially young players who haven't proven themselves one way or another.

If Sandin is the type of player that is so coveted around the league, wouldn't it make sense for Leafs to find a way to keep him?

Now it seems that Sandin is part of every trade proposal/idea made by a Leafs fan, I mean we're not at Ryder-Halak-2nd territory yet but getting there slowly.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Connor Murphy 50% retained for Sandin/Knies, Holl and Mrazek

I doubt it’d take both but I’d be fine letting both Sandin/Knies go if that’s what’d it’d take. Definitely think Sandin is worth close to a top 10 pick and it’d take a 2nd to dump Mrazek. Holl is probably worth a 7th.

Sandin and Knies is WAY to much

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

D Connor Murphy (4 yrs at $4.4M)


D Justin Holl (1 yr at $2M)
Leafs 2022 1st round pick

Hawks get a 1st rounder and a stopgap RD for coming season

Leafs get upgrade at RD locked in long-term at affordable rate

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

D Connor Murphy (4 yrs at $4.4M)


D Justin Holl (1 yr at $2M)
Leafs 2022 1st round pick

Hawks get a 1st rounder for this trade and a stopgap RD for coming season

Leafs get upgrade at RD locked in long-term at affordable rate

Thats a pretty fair trade if Murphy stays a top 4 d for the duration of the contract.

 

[hawksrule]

Any deal involving murphy would require that team taking on his full salary and a high 1st round pick say top 10 plus a elite prospect. Toronto has nothing of significant value to entice chicago plus there salary cap situation doesn't give them much room.

Lol. Murphy’s worth nowhere near that.

 

[Magic Man]

Well thing is that there's this possibility of Leafs fans overrating their assets - just like every other fanbase does - especially young players who haven't proven themselves one way or another.

If Sandin is the type of player that is so coveted around the league, wouldn't it make sense for Leafs to find a way to keep him?

Now it seems that Sandin is part of every trade proposal/idea made by a Leafs fan, I mean we're not at Ryder-Halak-2nd territory yet but getting there slowly.

He should be relatively inexpensive on the cap and they have his rights for a long time. If they can't find a team that has a worthwhile asset for him, they will just re-sign him for peanuts and he may have to start on the right side if they keep Muzzin.

They have 4 LHD's (Rielly, Muzzin, Gio and Brodie) before getting to Sandin. So, you could say we have an excess. That makes Muzzin and Sandin more available than they were previously. But, I'd assume they will continue to excercise asset management techniques and extract quality if they do parlay one of them into something else.

I find everyone that is not in the small core group at the top of the team eventually gets compared to Ryder-Halak-2nd or other famous HF offers. The Leafs have a lot of fans.

 

[Joel Ward]

D Connor Murphy (4 yrs at $4.4M)


D Justin Holl (1 yr at $2M)
Leafs 2022 1st round pick

Hawks get a 1st rounder and a stopgap RD for coming season

Leafs get upgrade at RD locked in long-term at affordable rate

If Muzzin and Mrazek are moved in separate deals this would be palatable.

Rielly - Murphy
Giordano - Liljegren
Sandin - Brodie

is a pretty damn strong group on the backend.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Well thing is that there's this possibility of Leafs fans overrating their assets - just like every other fanbase does - especially young players who haven't proven themselves one way or another.

If Sandin is the type of player that is so coveted around the league, wouldn't it make sense for Leafs to find a way to keep him?

Now it seems that Sandin is part of every trade proposal/idea made by a Leafs fan, I mean we're not at Ryder-Halak-2nd territory yet but getting there slowly.

It's not that we want to move but there is a surplus on the Left side, and at least 1 hole, possibly 2 on the Right.


So it makes sense to use your surplus on the left side to try and address the right side.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Well thing is that there's this possibility of Leafs fans overrating their assets - just like every other fanbase does - especially young players who haven't proven themselves one way or another.

If Sandin is the type of player that is so coveted around the league, wouldn't it make sense for Leafs to find a way to keep him?

Now it seems that Sandin is part of every trade proposal/idea made by a Leafs fan, I mean we're not at Ryder-Halak-2nd territory yet but getting there slowly.

Just because he's part of alot of trade proposals doesnt mean he's a shit asset
Sandin is a 22 year old Dman who has done fine and improving.
Leafs have to add value to try and upgrade in those situations these are the type of players teams would like back.
Sandin is a good prospect that's ready to play full time not sure what's so bad about that

Leafs likely have no interest in moving him but if they are as deep on LD then it makes sense depending on the target.
another answer is try to find a new home for Muzzin to save cap and get Sandin in full time.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

Connor Murphy 50% retained for Sandin/Knies, Holl and Mrazek

I doubt it’d take both but I’d be fine letting both Sandin/Knies go if that’s what’d it’d take. Definitely think Sandin is worth close to a top 10 pick and it’d take a 2nd to dump Mrazek. Holl is probably worth a 7th.

Lmfao no... Bwahahaha. I like Murphy as a player but no.

I'd do our first. Marazek to make the cap work and something else small. That's it. Sandin and knies..jesus...

 

[Zur En Arrh]

Well thing is that there's this possibility of Leafs fans overrating their assets - just like every other fanbase does - especially young players who haven't proven themselves one way or another.

If Sandin is the type of player that is so coveted around the league, wouldn't it make sense for Leafs to find a way to keep him?

Now it seems that Sandin is part of every trade proposal/idea made by a Leafs fan, I mean we're not at Ryder-Halak-2nd territory yet but getting there slowly.

because our most vocal of our fan base is dumb. They over value players then under value them etc. The majority of leafs fans are fairweather bandwagon dumbasses.

the only way sandin is traded is if a holdout happens and he does not believe we will give him top four min. Even then we still have all the leverage. We aren't including him in packages as a throw in. Just not happening.

so our dumb fans want him traded cause he hasn't played in a while. Everyone else used those dumb fans as proof he isint good and now everyone wants him for free cause he's not good, yet they want him because they know he is. Awesome...