Proposal: Connor Brown for Matt Roy

[Bevans]

LA has too many RD and are now one Brown short.

Ottawa needs a capable RD to fill out top 4 and play with Chabot.

I view this as synomous with the Foligno for Methot trade.

It's hard to trade away a glue guy that does everything for you. But when you can get THE player to fill the biggest hole on your roster you can justify the cost.

Is Roy that player?

Who says yes, who says no?

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[Reaper45]

LA has too many RD and are now one Brown short.

Ottawa needs a capable RD to fill out top 4 and play with Chabot.

I view this as synomous with the Foligno for Methot trade.

It's hard to trade away a glue guy that does everything for you. But when you can get THE player to fill the biggest hole on your roster you can justify the cost.

Is Roy that player?

Who says yes, who says no?

I value the top 4 defenseman more than the middle 6 forward.

 

[CowMix]

Roy can definitely be had but I don't think this helps the Kings much because the only thing they may have too much of besides RHD is 3rd line wingers.

 

[Neiler]

I love it but LA says no if recent discussions taught me anything. I proposed a similar swap for Formenton not long ago and the responses pretty much said Roy was too important to move at this point. Then fellow sens fans dumped on me for suggesting moving Formenton, if memory serves.

 

[Bevans]

I value the top 4 defenseman more than the middle 6 forward.

He may spend some time as a 5/6. He only played around 20-21 even with injuries.

His spot can be filled with Spence.

I think their roster is better composed with a swing man like brown who will play 18-20 no matter what "line" he is on, because he can play all situations and has a never ending motor.

If the senators trade him at the deadline he gets at least a first, or whatever Tampa can scrape together. He would be top of their list

I love it but LA says no if recent discussions taught me anything. I proposed a similar swap for Formenton not long ago and the responses pretty much said Roy was too important to move at this point. Then fellow sens fans dumped on me for suggesting moving Formenton, if memory serves.

I wouldn't offer formenton in this situation just because of contract and age

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Roy can definitely be had but I don't think this helps the Kings much because the only thing they may have too much of besides RHD is 3rd line wingers.

Yeah well you're not getting much more for Matt Roy. Connor Brown isn't a third liner by the way; how many of your third liners shoot at 40-50 clip?

 

[FSL KINGS]

Trading Roy for a player with a career high of 43 points doesn't make the King's better. Kings value Roy very highly. They just made the playoffs with Roy as their best right handed defender for a good part of the season. Roy could be traded due to depth, but it isn't going to be cheap.

 

[Bevans]

Trading Roy for a player with a career high of 43 points doesn't make the King's better. Kings value Roy very highly. They just made the playoffs with Roy as their best right handed defender for a good part of the season. Roy could be traded due to depth, but it isn't going to be cheap.

If you think that brown is cheap, I would suggest you're not paying attention to the cost of acquisition and demand for this kind of player. Look at trades and contracts for Coleman, Hagel, goodrow, copp, lehkonen, hyman, etc.

You may not like brown, or may not like him in this context. But the teams that are succeeding are paying handsomely for these guys. If you just look at points then you're not looking at the full picture.

 

[FSL KINGS]

If you think that brown is cheap, I would suggest you're not paying attention to the cost of acquisition and demand for this kind of player. Look at trades and contracts for Coleman, Hagel, goodrow, copp, lehkonen, hyman, etc.

You may not like brown, or may not like him in this context. But the teams that are succeeding are paying handsomely for these guys. If you just look at points then you're not looking at the full picture.

Brown is fine. Might be a good idea for the King's to sign him next year.

None of those players listed were traded for someone that carried a playoff teams top pair for a good part of the season. While paired with guys like Määttä, Wolanin, Björnfot. Kings really value Roy. He would be great on the top pair of Vancouver, Nashville, & Buffalo also. At Roy's current cap hit, playoff teams should be all over him as well.

Edit: Kings could run Roy, Clarke together for the next 6-7 years. You have to offer something Kings fans would want to see more than that. Roy probably worth more to the King's.

 

[Bevans]

Brown is fine. Might be a good idea for the King's to sign him next year.

None of those players listed were traded for someone that carried a playoff teams top pair for a good part of the season. While paired with guys like Määttä, Wolanin, Björnfot. Kings really value Roy. He would be great on the top pair of Vancouver, Nashville, & Buffalo also. At Roy's current cap hit, playoff teams should be all over him as well.

I mean if you think after Doughty and all these injured players come back that suddenly Roy will go from playing 20 minutes with Matta and edler to being a number 1 D pair, then might as well trade the senators Spence since he will suddenly have his ice time cut way down.


I don't think your portrayal of Roy is entirely accurate.

There's only so much ice time available in LA, that's what would make one of these guys available. If someone Outbids then sure take that offer.

 

[CowMix]

Yeah well you're not getting much more for Matt Roy. Connor Brown isn't a third liner by the way; how many of your third liners shoot at 40-50 clip?

Athanasiou and Iafallo

 

[BKarchitect]

I’d value Roy more as a neutral fan here but in terms of kinda underrated gems who both do and mean a lot to their current clubs, they are kind of similar glue guys (at different positions). It’s certainly not an offensive offer but I don’t think it’s the kind of deal the Kings would be looking for.

 

[kinghock]

If you think that brown is cheap, I would suggest you're not paying attention to the cost of acquisition and demand for this kind of player. Look at trades and contracts for Coleman, Hagel, goodrow, copp, lehkonen, hyman, etc.

You may not like brown, or may not like him in this context. But the teams that are succeeding are paying handsomely for these guys. If you just look at points then you're not looking at the full picture.

I do not think that Brown is cheap. I do think he is needed by Kings.

 

[Akrapovince]

It doesn’t matter what the Kings surplus is, a right handed defensemen is much more valuable than a winger of about the same value.

Connor Brown is very, very, very underrated. He’s a Swiss Army knife on steroids with a motor that any player would kill for. Coach’s dream player.

Matt Roy is the King’s equivalent to Zub. You hang onto the right handed defensemen 10/10 times here.

That being said, not sure Ottawa does this. I think Brown gets packaged for something or for futures if he’s moved. I’m not sure how we’re going to convince a guy that played playoff hockey in California to stay in Ottawa after next year.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Athanasiou and Iafallo

I think Brown is the best player out of the three, not substantially better - just definitely, slightly better.

I also think both teams would not do the deal for different reasons.