I thought he meant there would be 80,000 fans going to Paris for the tournament. That didn't sound plausible at all. But he meant there would be 80,000 fans in Cologne and Paris combined. I have no problem believing that.
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I thought he meant there would be 80,000 fans going to Paris for the tournament. That didn't sound plausible at all. But he meant there would be 80,000 fans in Cologne and Paris combined. I have no problem believing that.
Germany is definitely a beer country, and Cologne would have a solid claim at being the beer capital. Not because of the beer itself (I like it, but more often than not, I prefer a Bavarian Helles), but because of the way beer drinking is rooted in our entire culture. There's these mini-supermarkets selling beer on every corner until pretty late at night, and you can drink outside everywhere. Every few years, some politicians get the idea to do something about it, but at the latest the courts more or less politely tell them to **** off, because drinking in public areas is part of the culture here.
I need to move there.
Jumptheshark
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According to Paris guys they expect 80k over the entire tourney..
Not many people here in paris are happy with how poorly organised this event is
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tony d
New poll series coming from me in June
So much else to do in Paris no surprise the tournament's not getting much play there, also France is probably in the teens when it comes to national team rankings so that hurts the country as hosts too.
doug88
Registered User
They said on Swiss TV that they've sold 30K tickets in Switzerland for the next weekend in Paris (Switzerland-Canada and Switzerland-Finland) and they've sold well over 60K tickets in Switzerland for the whole tournament. Considering this, 80K would seem odd for the Paris games. It should be a bit higher than that.
Vipers31
Advanced Stagnostic
I have a hard time believing those numbers are real. I mean, even if every single Swiss fan was buying tickets for both Paris games on those two days rather than only the Swiss games, that would be 7,500 Swiss fans coming over - which would be an unreal number. Especially considering there were 4,900 / 7,800 fans in total at their first two games. (Sure, the opponents are getting more attractive, but...)
There were 6000 Swiss fans in Prague during the 2nd weekend of the tournament in 2015, so 7500 doesn't sound that crazy. But 30000 tickets sold sounds unrealistic.
Vipers31
Advanced Stagnostic
Huh. If that number is right, that's amazingly impressive, and at that point, maybe 30k tickets wouldn't be such a stretch. I mean, if you're going in the first place, might as well get tickets for both games each day. Either way, kudos if they can make it reasonably close to those numbers.
Huh. If that number is right, that's amazingly impressive, and at that point, maybe 30k tickets wouldn't be such a stretch. I mean, if you're going in the first place, might as well get tickets for both games each day. Either way, kudos if they can make it reasonably close to those numbers.
I have nothing official to back it up, but I was at one of the games and it didn't look far fetched.
But even if 7500 Swiss fans show up, 30000 tickets sold still sounds impossible to me. Too many fans only care about their own team.
Vipers31
Advanced Stagnostic
You're probably right. No disrespect to those teams, but if you're making the trip to Paris, I'm not sure how many Swiss fans would rather watch Slovenia-Belarus than tour the city for some time before their own game.
doug88
Registered User
It could be possible, I mean I bought day tickets for Saturday and Sunday and we'll be 3 people making the trip to Paris. So that would be 5 games for 3 people so 15 tickets already. And of course we won't be going to the other games -when Switzerland isn't playing. And there's a friend of mine who's going with 10 buddies for Switzerland's last 3 games so I'll let you do the maths but that goes pretty quickly considering most of us bought day tickets.
Why did you buy day tickets if you're not going to the other games? I mean I know Swiss salaries are high but still throwing money away like that seems a bit weird.
doug88
Registered User
Just wanted to secure good seats and for the 2 games I'm attending there weren't many left so I just went for it. And it's still ridiculously cheap compared to what I've paid this year to attend NLA games + WJC.
its not like hockey nations do everything perfect
a gem from the past (2012 iihf)
Too true
They should stage this tournament in cities where the local people care, organisation is good and the host cities themselves are interestsing outside of hockey.
Prague was the best - the German organisers of this year visited in 2015 and said it was the best organisation they had ever seen, and the quality would be very hard for them to replicate. Not a bad compliment from Germans, who are good at organising international tournaments. In addition, the local fans are fanatical supporters (set the all-time record for attendance, and also hold the number 3 position form the previous time this took palce in the Czech Republic), so the atmosphere is great. Prague is a city where there is lots to do, and the beer is world class. Easy to travel to as well from other countries. Basically, they should have it in Prague every year
Ostrava during the same Czech tournament is less great - enthusiastic fans, but harder to get to for foreign fans, and the city as such is quite ugly and there is a lot less to do than in Prague.
I imagine Helsinki would be fun as well. But it seems that not all countries with a good hockey culture are very good hosts, at least in terms of local interest. I think that in Sweden, stadiums were quite empty for some games last time the event took place in the country, no?
What was Canada like? Canadians love hockey, but do not really rate the world championships. How was attendance? Presumably still decent as it is a real hockey country?
Prague was the best - the German organisers of this year visited in 2015 and said it was the best organisation they had ever seen, and the quality would be very hard for them to replicate. Not a bad compliment from Germans, who are good at organising international tournaments. In addition, the local fans are fanatical supporters (set the all-time record for attendance, and also hold the number 3 position form the previous time this took palce in the Czech Republic), so the atmosphere is great. Prague is a city where there is lots to do, and the beer is world class. Easy to travel to as well from other countries. Basically, they should have it in Prague every year
Ostrava during the same Czech tournament is less great - enthusiastic fans, but harder to get to for foreign fans, and the city as such is quite ugly and there is a lot less to do than in Prague.
I imagine Helsinki would be fun as well. But it seems that not all countries with a good hockey culture are very good hosts, at least in terms of local interest. I think that in Sweden, stadiums were quite empty for some games last time the event took place in the country, no?
What was Canada like? Canadians love hockey, but do not really rate the world championships. How was attendance? Presumably still decent as it is a real hockey country?
True, organisers went greedy and asked prices ordinary Swedes refused to pay, thus many empty seats. Not happy to see empty seats but glad that Swedes refused to let themselves milk down and called the bluff.
They should stage this tournament in cities where the local people care, organisation is good and the host cities themselves are interestsing outside of hockey.
Prague was the best - the German organisers of this year visited in 2015 and said it was the best organisation they had ever seen, and the quality would be very hard for them to replicate. Not a bad compliment from Germans, who are good at organising international tournaments. In addition, the local fans are fanatical supporters (set the all-time record for attendance, and also hold the number 3 position form the previous time this took palce in the Czech Republic), so the atmosphere is great. Prague is a city where there is lots to do, and the beer is world class. Easy to travel to as well from other countries. Basically, they should have it in Prague every year
Ostrava during the same Czech tournament is less great - enthusiastic fans, but harder to get to for foreign fans, and the city as such is quite ugly and there is a lot less to do than in Prague.
I imagine Helsinki would be fun as well. But it seems that not all countries with a good hockey culture are very good hosts, at least in terms of local interest. I think that in Sweden, stadiums were quite empty for some games last time the event took place in the country, no?
What was Canada like? Canadians love hockey, but do not really rate the world championships. How was attendance? Presumably still decent as it is a real hockey country?
If I remember right the tickets in Helsinki and Stockholm were like 125 euros median. In Germany and Paris I think they are about 35-40? Attendance for the 2008 Tournament in Canada was about 9000 per game, which is fairly high. The issue with Canada is you almost have to play in a city where there is no NHL team, which limits it to places like Hamilton and Saskatoon for cities with arenas larger than 10,000 which are thousands of miles apart.
I think there should be more diversity. Games are always in Europe and in the same countries. Once in a while there comes a new host like Denmark. Games could be held in Canada and northern US hockey areas with no NHL teams and why not even Kazakhstan or Japan. There could also be new host cities in old countries like the Ural region and Siberia in Russia. Smaller countries like Norway and Hungary could co host with neighbouring countries.
This tourney is cash grab for fans. Tickets are cheap and average attendence so far is around 11000 - almost same as in Czech 2015. And you can see Paris. Not a bad thing for vacation.
tobu
Registered User
France and Denmark as hosts probably hint at the fact that new hosts will be coming gradually, but it has to be countries that are relatively stable participants in the A-division. Rather than Kazakhstan or Japan, I see Norway to be realistically the only next new host, possibly Slovenia after them, but I'll be honest to admit that I have zero knowledge on the arena infrastructure in both.
Zamboni Parade
Registered User
I had a standing room ticket in Cologne for €16. Show up a little early and you get a nice action view spot at the glass right behind the goal. Can't complain about that.
The beer was like a fiver though, that's where they get ya
