Confirmed Trade: [COL/SEA] Kurtis MacDermid for 2023 4th round pick

[milehigh11]

So a Graves replacement for 1/6 the cost. Got some size.. not sure it was worth a 4th. But not like Sakic was gonna draft a NHL player anyway outside the top 10

 

[IranCondraAffair]

How does Francis justify passing on Clague or Grundstrom for MacDermid if he's going to flip MacDermid for a 4th a week later?

It makes no sense. Even if you dont get the draft pick you wanted for refraining to take Clague, you still take Clague.

It is like Francis was trying to blackmail people and everyone knew he didnt have the heart to "go throigh with it" and so they didnt pay up and they were right to call his bluff.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Francis: "We're going to charge a 1st and 3rd for protection, and if you don't pay, we're going to take a player you didn't want protected anyway and trade him for a 2023 4th."

 

[HoseEmDown]

Is Clague better than Giordano, Dunn, Soucy, Oleksiak? No. Is he even better than Fluery, Cholowski, Lauzon or Borgen? He's not waiver exempt anymore so if he's not one of your top 7 or 8 then he's a waste. Grundstrom is questionable but he still would be a 4th liner and Seattle hasn't even started to sign free agents yet, he may be another that isn't a top 13/14. Face punchers like MacDermid have more value than waiver eligible prospects.

 

[Avs44]

So a Graves replacement for 1/6 the cost. Got some size.. not sure it was worth a 4th. But not like Sakic was gonna draft a NHL player anyway outside the top 10

He's not even a Graves replacement. Graves is *way* better. Byram is the Graves replacement. This guy is Sakic looking to have a facepuncher to call upon when needed. That's literally it.

 

[bl02]

ugh, guess that's slightly better than Nemeth and can be an AHL guy

He's better than Nemeth?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

So... Francis looks at what's available from LA and drafts his buddy's kid...

then flips him for a 4th

in two years

...

aight?

I am seriously thinking he is the worst job possible just to see what is the limit he can do before some Seattle fans turn on him.... as of right now most Seattle fans at least on this board seem content (shockingly) with his work.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Ron Francis is an asset management God.

Take notes, kids.

 

[Islay1989]

Graves replacement? What? Are these takes for real? He's a 7th D they'll play in games they need someone to keep the other team in check.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Is Clague better than Giordano, Dunn, Soucy, Oleksiak? No. Is he even better than Fluery, Cholowski, Lauzon or Borgen? He's not waiver exempt anymore so if he's not one of your top 7 or 8 then he's a waste. Grundstrom is questionable but he still would be a 4th liner and Seattle hasn't even started to sign free agents yet, he may be another that isn't a top 13/14. Face punchers like MacDermid have more value than waiver eligible prospects.

He is a better asset than a 4th round pick. Guaranteed.

 

[AslanRH]

He's better than Nemeth?

Only due to his low cap number. I still think Nemeth could get $1.5 this year

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Is Clague better than Giordano, Dunn, Soucy, Oleksiak? No. Is he even better than Fluery, Cholowski, Lauzon or Borgen? He's not waiver exempt anymore so if he's not one of your top 7 or 8 then he's a waste. Grundstrom is questionable but he still would be a 4th liner and Seattle hasn't even started to sign free agents yet, he may be another that isn't a top 13/14. Face punchers like MacDermid have more value than waiver eligible prospects.

Even if Seattle didnt want him, someone else might.

Example: Ottawa didnt want Vegas to take Methot. Vegas asked Ottawa for a first round draft pick. Ottawa refused. Vegas took Methot anyway. Methot was not good enough for Vegas' defence, so Vegas traded him to Dallas for a 2nd. Thats what Seattle should have done about 10 more times.

 

[tny760]

RJ on our board said something a week ago about "feeling overqualified to be an NHL GM" re: these seattle picks and i think i feel the same

what a joke

 

[Avs44]

Only due to his low cap number. I still think Nemeth could get $1.5 this year

He's reportedly going to get 2.5-2.75 from the Rangers...

 

[rajuabju]

Really, REALLY makes no sense here. Seattle passed on BPA from the Kings, most (me included) thought because they wanted specific traits MacD brings, then they do this? Wtf. Could have done the exact same move with Clague or Grund and gotten at least a 3rd maybe even a 3rd+4th.

So weird. But as a Kings fan, great for us.

 

[falconski]

apparently we needed to spend a pick to get someone to punch reaves

I mean, not that we would have picked anyone useful with the 4th, but seems like a waste of it

 

[AcerComputer]

Why did they pass on Lizotte and Grundstrom? makes no sense.

 

[Jacob]

Always liked Francis as a player but it really doesn’t seem like he’s a competent GM.

Saw an interview where he partially excused their poor expansion picks on “teams being prepared” whatever that meant.

 

[tny760]

Why did they pass on Lizotte and Grundstrom? makes no sense.

lizotte's probably playing in europe in a year's time but i agree with the sentiment, there were much better options available that would've returned more than a 4th... easily..

or even something crazy like a roster player for their own team...

 

[YP44]

There we go. Landy's or Saad's replacement

he plays D

 

[tny760]

apparently we needed to spend a pick to get someone to punch reaves

I mean, not that we would have picked anyone useful with the 4th, but seems like a waste of it

reaves is scared of mac, but i'll be damned if i don't tune in to every avs-knights game just to see if it happens

 

[bleedgreen]

Always liked Francis as a player but it really doesn’t seem like he’s a competent GM.

Saw an interview where he partially excused their poor expansion picks on “teams being prepared” whatever that meant.

What’s hard about that concept? Teams were prepared.

Everyone is bagging on him for no side deals for extra picks, he gets a fourth for a 6-7th defenseman and people still are bagging on him. He already did a good job building the Canes so I don’t understand why people don’t give him more than a couple of weeks.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Meat is back on the menu boys!

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

apparently we needed to spend a pick to get someone to punch reaves

I mean, not that we would have picked anyone useful with the 4th, but seems like a waste of it

I'd gladly pay more to see Reaves get his ass handed to him.

Let's goooo

 

[TrufleShufle]

This has to be Kraken's worst off season to date.