Proposal: COL - PIT

[Gurglesons]

Ross Colton for Reilly Smith at 2.5 mil + PHI 2024 2nd.

Avs shave off some cap and get a top nine winger to help with Nichuskin and Landeskog's uncertainity.

PIT gets a 3C.

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[Perratrooper]

I feel like if Colorado were to move on from Colton they would aim for a more tantalizing return. It’s not the worst proposal, but I think the Avs would get a better offer.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Reilly isn’t amazing but Colton is overpaid. No thanks.

Straight up no retention sure. Or Rakell for Colton

 

[lionsDen]

Reilly isn’t amazing but Colton is overpaid. No thanks.

Straight up no retention sure. Or Rakell for Colton

How is Colton overpaid… seems the going rate.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

How is Colton overpaid… seems the going rate.

Reilly Smith 40 points in 76 games and + 3 on a bad team.

Colton 40 points in 80 games and -8 on a top 5 team.

One has to be retained for any value and one is “not overpaid and the going rate”. Yeah ok

 

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I think Avs sign a guy like Kapanen for winger depth. They also don’t have anyone to replace Colton as a third line centre.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Reilly Smith 40 points in 76 games and + 3 on a bad team.

Colton 40 points in 80 games and -8 on a top 5 team.

One has to be retained for any value and one is “not overpaid and the going rate”. Yeah ok

Center versus winger alone make this post just look clueless. Without even getting into the TOI breakdown, PP production, linemates, etc. etc.

 

[SEALBound]

The difference between the two is not 44ov. So, no to this proposal. I'd be interested in this as a base. As proposed, no.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

The difference between the two is not 44ov. So, no to this proposal. I'd be interested in this as a base. As proposed, no.

No worries. Colorado absolutely isn't interested in it as a base or as proposed

 

[lionsDen]

Reilly Smith 40 points in 76 games and + 3 on a bad team.

Colton 40 points in 80 games and -8 on a top 5 team.

One has to be retained for any value and one is “not overpaid and the going rate”. Yeah ok

Colton plays a different role for the Avs. He’s a crash and bang energy player.

I’m making the case that Colton is making the going rate for a 3c I’m not comparing role or pay to a winger. You said Colton was over paid.. using a comparison. To a winger doesn’t prove anything.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I wouldn’t pay a 2nd on top of Smith to get Colton, especially if they’re retaining 50% on Smith.

Is Colton more valuable than Smith? Yeah, but not to that level IMO. Especially with that salary retention.

 

[Mac Attack]

From Colorado perspective there is no reason we trade a centre for a wing. We don't have another 3c, not even a 4c at the moment. Colton may not be amazing, but he fills the role sufficiently and we would notice it if he was gone. We have one centre prospect in Ritchie, but he's only d+1 and very likely needs development time before he's ready for this type of role. Maybe he knocks our socks off early season and we explore a trade then. No reason to create a hole we can't fill right now.

 

[Shane Diesel]

It's amazing how Avs fans have whined endlessly for seasons about not being strong down the middle and now a bunch of them want Colton gone without a viable replacement.

The most bi-polar fan base on HF.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's amazing how Avs fans have whined endlessly for seasons about not being strong down the middle and now a bunch of them want Colton gone without a viable replacement.

The most bi-polar fan base on HF.

I think Penguins fans are the same exact way

Penguins fans complain non-stop about having youth but then people say "we can't go into next year with youth in substantial roles because they're not proven". I think all fans on this site do this with something.

 

[Gurglesons]

From Colorado perspective there is no reason we trade a centre for a wing. We don't have another 3c, not even a 4c at the moment. Colton may not be amazing, but he fills the role sufficiently and we would notice it if he was gone. We have one centre prospect in Ritchie, but he's only d+1 and very likely needs development time before he's ready for this type of role. Maybe he knocks our socks off early season and we explore a trade then. No reason to create a hole we can't fill right now.

Isn’t the issue that he hasn’t been a successful 3C and been used at W

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Isn’t the issue that he hasn’t been a successful 3C and been used at W

No? I literally don't think Colton has taken a single shift at wing in Colorado.

 

[Gurglesons]

No? I literally don't think Colton has taken a single shift at wing in Colorado.

Must have been talking to a clueless Avs fan about it then. He said Colton was a future W with them.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Colorado has Kovalenko challenging for a spot on the wing next season, the Avs don’t have a prospect center that could replace Colton at C.

Either way I believe the Avs could be in the market for a winger or two via free agency if it’s known that Landeskog and Nichushkin wouldn’t be returning in a timely fashion within the first couple months of the beginning of the season.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Colorado has Kovalenko challenging for a spot on the wing next season, the Avs don’t have a prospect center that could replace Colton at C.

Either way I believe the Avs could be in the market for a winger or two via free agency if it’s known that Landeskog and Nichushkin wouldn’t be returning in a timely fashion within the first couple months of the beginning of the season.

I mean... They absolutely do. But they still aren't going to move Colton. He's a solid player and not at all an issue for us.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I mean... They absolutely do. But they still aren't going to move Colton. He's a solid player and not at all an issue for us.

I should have rephrased the bolded.

Calum Ritchie could eventually replace Ross Colton but Ritchie would have to blow away Colorado’s front office at training camp, Ritchie most likely ends up back in OHL next season for more playing time and development.

Avs also have a few Eastern European centers but I don’t know if either would be ready to challenge for a spot on the Avs roster down the middle as I’m not familiar enough with those players.

Colorado traded a 2nd round pick to Tampa for Colton, I don’t believe they’d be eager to trade Colton for a 2nd round pick after 1 season while adding Reilly Smith’s retained $2.5mil to the payroll.