I've said Lehhky's dad was right multiple times. Both before and after the trade.
Confirmed with Link: [COL, CAR, CHI] Rantanen-Hall to CAR, Necas-Drury-25 2nd-26 4th to COL, Chi 25 3rd to Chi (Ret 50% on Mikko)
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I've said Lehhky's dad was right multiple times. Both before and after the trade.
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shadow1
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Mikko is a poor man's Jagr. There's a ton to hate about his game, but the production is always there.
...except in Carolina so far. Jagr looked cooked in Washington but exploded again in New York. I think Carolina is similarly a horrible fit for Rants. If he goes to Edmonton, the West will be crapping its collective pants.
...except in Carolina so far. Jagr looked cooked in Washington but exploded again in New York. I think Carolina is similarly a horrible fit for Rants. If he goes to Edmonton, the West will be crapping its collective pants.
SirLoinOfCloth
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Can Edmonton even afford Rants? With Drai's 14M deal kicking in next year, and then McDavid will get 16+M the year after. And Nurse on 9.25 (LOL) they don't have a lot of space for another 12/13/14M contract.
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That'd be an all in move for this year. This is kind of Edmontons last big hurrah with this core as their cap situation gets really ugly coming up and getting Mikko at a pretty cheap price would be a pretty smart move to really go for it.
dahrougem2
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I don't know that he would. A lot of Mikko's production comes from the PP in the exact spot Draisaitl plays, and we know he wouldn't push Draisaitl out of that position.
He might play 5v5 with 97 or 29, but I don't think he'd be on PP1 for the Oilers.
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Oilers should focus on goaltending and defence before going all in on a guy like Rantanen
With that being said, 96 next to Leon is a scary thought
With that being said, 96 next to Leon is a scary thought
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I read somewhere that Mikko has a 7-8 team no-trade clause and the conventional wisdom is that the teams on the list are all north of the 49th Parallel. I don't see Mikko going to Calgary, Edmonton or Winnipeg without those teams backing up the Brink's Truck to make it worth his while. And to offset the heating costs.
Mikko is like a power-hitting DH in baseball - throw it in his wheelhouse and he'll hit it to China. But he's not the 4-5 tool player Necas is.
Mikko is like a power-hitting DH in baseball - throw it in his wheelhouse and he'll hit it to China. But he's not the 4-5 tool player Necas is.
Bill Peckerskull
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Mikko getting moved again before next Friday would just be a pure rental for Edmonton, Dallas, or Vegas, or any number of teams. If the Canes, or another team, retain 50% of his remaining cap hit, they can get him for $2.3M and a cup run. Then he goes to Market on July 1.
Ceremony
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If he goes to Edmonton I'm burning his jersey which arrived yesterday because I got it for better than half price
Scab
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Why can’t Mikko drive play anymore? Few years ago he carried the Avs when MacK would miss games with injuries. Is it laziness, effort level? I don’t get it.
niwotsblessing
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Lack of GAF/60, and Ismo indicated it's an issue of conditioning. Meaning his GAF/60 impacted his offseason commitment as well.
Right now it's mostly the lack of power play production that's killing him, and it appears to have followed him to Carolina. To me, he's just not very mobile right now. I'd speculate there's an injury of some sort hampering him, he sat out a couple games IIRC right before the 4N Break and I THINK it was an LBI...can't remember for sure. But yeah, you look at him on the man-advantage in COL and he wasn't moving AT ALL. I'd argue that was a pretty big reason the power play went completely dead this season, but of course he's gone and it's still struggling so you can't pin it all on him.
I'd also say that whatever horrid shooting luck that has been plaguing the Avs as a whole this year, he also took with him to Raleigh.
It's that elusive motor issue. You watch him for a shift and then you watch LOC and you get pissed off. LOC wasn't gifted with that skill of a world class shot and gets paid 20% of what Mikko will get. But you tell me which you'd prefer in a tied game with the Avs on their back foot trying to seize a game?
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Probably still Mikko because the astronomical difference in skill can't be overlooked here but I understand the point you're trying to make
Although if you said like...Lehky or Mikko it would be Lehky 1000% of the time.
expatriatedtexan
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I think some people are just huge Mikko fans, and I don't really want to take that away from them.
But the fact is, the Avs are a better team today and will be for the foreseeable future with Necas instead of Mikko. I honestly feel bad on some level for the dude... but you have to remember... this is what he ASKED for and WANTED. The Avs gave him a deal that would have made him the highest paid winger in the league. He turned it down. He's got nobody but himself to blame for the mess he is in or the shit contract he's going to get. Don't get me wrong...he's still going to be making bank (players on league minimum are making bank compared to me and probably most of us here), but don't think for a second he hasn't cost himself a lot of money already.
Since Mikko has left the Avs he's been in free-fall. Necas hasn't been though? Why? I think heart, conditioning, and effort are the three primary reasons. Mikko was a stud. But Mikko became a one-trick pony. His trick is an absolute world beater, but that's what he brings to the table. He doesn't bring a forecheck, he doesn't bring a backcheck, he doesn't bring a pickpocket, he doesn't bring success from battles along the board. What he does is finish one-timers placed perfectly on his stick like a damned champion. But no team can afford to pay him what he wants for that one thing only. Mikko was wasting a good 10-14 of his 22 minutes a night doing absolutely nothing but coasting around trying not to fall.
I'm not sure if it was him or his agent... but somebody miscalculated big time here.
But the fact is, the Avs are a better team today and will be for the foreseeable future with Necas instead of Mikko. I honestly feel bad on some level for the dude... but you have to remember... this is what he ASKED for and WANTED. The Avs gave him a deal that would have made him the highest paid winger in the league. He turned it down. He's got nobody but himself to blame for the mess he is in or the shit contract he's going to get. Don't get me wrong...he's still going to be making bank (players on league minimum are making bank compared to me and probably most of us here), but don't think for a second he hasn't cost himself a lot of money already.
Since Mikko has left the Avs he's been in free-fall. Necas hasn't been though? Why? I think heart, conditioning, and effort are the three primary reasons. Mikko was a stud. But Mikko became a one-trick pony. His trick is an absolute world beater, but that's what he brings to the table. He doesn't bring a forecheck, he doesn't bring a backcheck, he doesn't bring a pickpocket, he doesn't bring success from battles along the board. What he does is finish one-timers placed perfectly on his stick like a damned champion. But no team can afford to pay him what he wants for that one thing only. Mikko was wasting a good 10-14 of his 22 minutes a night doing absolutely nothing but coasting around trying not to fall.
I'm not sure if it was him or his agent... but somebody miscalculated big time here.
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It's wasn't his agent. The agent works for the player and informs him of the teams' offers and gives him advice but he doesn't turn down offers on his own.
They were BOTH caught off guard that the Avs had the balls to actually trade him. I'm quite certain that even if C-Mac had told the Rantanen camp "this is our best offer, if we can't get a deal done we're going to have to trade him"... that Rantanen and his agent saw it as an empty threat and thought "yeah, right".
For the record, I don't even believe that happened. I think C-Mac made him one last offer and with Necas on the table decided to trade Rantanen because he wasn't getting a better deal than that for a rental.
I'm sure in Mikko's mind, he was just as big and important part of the Avs as MacKinnon, Makar and Landeskog - so he wanted to have his cake and eat it too - meaning, he wanted to have the Avs over a barrel on June 30th pushing them to get the exact the amount he wants or the threat that he walks. C-Mac and Sakic would have none of it - and good for them, it was the right call.
expatriatedtexan
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That's the issue. In his mind, he's a god-damned legend. He's not. He's not a dawg like Nate, Nuke or Lehky. He's a one-shot pony and if his agent allowed him to believe he was worth more, his agent was doing him no favors.
At the end of the day, Mikko thought he was worth a hell of a lot more than he is. I hope he has a good career, but at this point I'm just glad he's no longer our problem to deal with. His play has been declining for two straight years, points be damned. It's like we've only got 4 guys on the ice right up until somebody can manage a cross-ice saucer onto his stick. Honestly, he shouldn't be getting more on his next contract than he got on this one. 9.6M should be more than GD enough for what he's actually bringing to the table at 5v5.
Damn, much like with Bednar, I need to chill on Mikko... he's not even here anymore. I just hate seeing folks still moping about for his sorry ass.
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