Coaching is a serious problem.

morhilane

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I am ready to move on from this entire coaching staff...they are subpar. Hughes and Gorton are not delivering.
I want Therrien back!!!!

Just for the total meltdown, if the team isn't playing well, at least I can have drama!
 

salbutera

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I agree the goaltending was atrocious. But can ask Marty why he didn’t see after the 2nd period that Montembault was not tracking the puck and why he left him in when he saw that he was clearly off leaving our extremely shaky second string goalie to come in cold in the third period behind a deflated team? The coaching is bad. There’s no defending some of the decisions he’s making. They’re bad in every area. I’m a random HF poster and I could make better on the spot decisions then he can.
If all of us have concluded that Primeau isn’t an NHL capable G, I think MSL and his staff figured it out a while back…
 

teamfirst

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I want Therrien back!!!!

Just for the total meltdown, if the team isn't playing well, at least I can have drama!

Therrien alone is not enough, i heard MB would like another gig at GM.......c'mon Gorton fire both Hughes and MSL replace them with MB and MT.........now that would be drama :laugh::laugh:
 

OldCraig71

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I don't think it is as much a coaching issue as a management one. Gorton and Hughes made offseason moves that have hurt the team. Monahan and Kovacevic are the two who hurt the most. Their evaluations of Dach and Barron were wrong, neither is a suitable replacement for the guys who left. Newhook is another failed experiment, a nothing burger of a player who would be okay on a deep team but his weaknesses shine bright on a rebuilding one such as ours.

I am critical of MSL for two things, the complicated defensive system that we didn't need and for not being tough on veteran players by scratching them when they suck. It's only the entry level players who get punished. That won't gain him long term respect from the young guys when most of the dead weight is gone.

I predict Marty will resign from the team for personal reasons without getting fired.
 
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dukeofjive

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He’s not only in way over his head… he doesn’t have the desperation to scramble to find an answer. Coming off as extremely pretentious. To many nice dinners with the big boys
how many nhl clubs or any hockey clubs have you coached?

What part of rebuilding is the "the young players get worse and give increasingly shitty efforts" phase?

Which kids are getting worst?

Oh and how many nhl teams have you coached?
 

salbutera

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It’s more like we want some accountability for the players, which MSL seems to not really prioritize. He needs to embrace that he’s their coach, not friend. He’s not a player. He’s management. The players are your employees, not your buddies.
There are no depth options at present - if you sit Dach or Slaf who plays? Pizzeria?

If Matheson sits which young D can step up and take his TOI, let alone the ripple effect of increased TOI for other Ds? I’m willing to bet both Matheson & Savard have been playing through non minor injuries for a while..

Way I look at it MSL is trying to manage “in da mix” expectations with a team that presently lacks NHL depth above & beyond the 12F, 7D & 1G presently available at his disposal

Roy not being able to step up & grab a roster spot, and Redenbacker’s injury has had an impact on this teams depth, let alone Laine being out for 6-weeks +
 

salbutera

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And the overpaid vets not leading?
Gallagher-Dvo-Anderson have been quite good and outperforming opposition 3rd lines for majority of the season thus far…. but they’re 3rd liners.

Crosby-Rust-Rackell dominated last night …
 

LyricalLyricist

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I mean, we keep saying we’re a rebuilding team as an excuse but it’s been years and we’ve paid 1st round picks to acquire players and already had a lot of picks and prospects in stock.

So…we give up 1st rounders because we’re not trying to get better? I don’t get it.

I think this will be a painful rebuild.
 
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Prettyisland

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So you got no ideal what your talking about so now your trying to be cute.

it’s entertainment dude your concern…
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Prettyisland

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That’s the argument now? We are not coaches so we can’t criticize bad coaching?

I’m not a chef, but I know adding dogshit to my tacos won’t be very good.
“I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you” ass energy. I should just shut up and be entertained. Now excuse me while I go watch the video of Marty sniping of Tokarski on repeat. I have been rehabilitated

It’s entertainment, if you get mad cause your favorite sports team loses and feel the need to tell the world how you feel, yea maybe hockey not for you.
This is a discussion forum
 
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sampollock

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I mean, we keep saying we’re a rebuilding team as an excuse but it’s been years and we’ve paid 1st round picks to acquire players and already had a lot of picks and prospects in stock.

So…we give up 1st rounders because we’re not trying to get better? I don’t get it.

I think this will be a painful rebuild.
AND soon to be overpaid young guys for lack of work ethic
 

le_sean

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“I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you” ass energy. I should just shut up and be entertained. Now excuse me while I go watch the video of Marty sniping of Tokarski on repeat. I have been rehabilitated


This is a discussion forum
The ironic thing about not being able criticize coaching since we aren’t coaches…Marty isn’t a coach either
 

salbutera

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St Patrick is right “the game has changed”, as Subban once said in response to MB saying he wants “players who hate to lose”.

“What’s getting angry after a game going to change? I’ve got things to do and a life to live…”
 

Jabba11

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Who are the potential replacements for MSL?

Alain Vigneault
Joel Quenneville
Gerard Gallant
Benoit Groulx
Larry Robinson? Patrick Roy? These legends deserve more than being coaches - too valuable
Patrick Roy only if we have a winning/contending team

We missed out on Jim Montgomery.
I honestly like David Carle but he's American and doesn't speak french.
No candidates from Q or NCAA or AHL?
 
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