Proposal: Clb-Chi

[Blackhawkswincup]

To Jackets
RW Mark McNeill

To Hawks
D Vladislav Gavrikov

Hawks get longshot prospect while Jackets acquire some scoring to improve Cleveland

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[Hello Johnny]

No thanks from Columbus.

 

[Viqsi]

Gavrikov is doing a lot better than "longshot" at this point, so no thanks.

 

[Alklha]

A 20 year old playing close to 18 minutes a game for a good KHL team is a long shot?

 

[mikeyp24]

Anyone who has seen me post in the CBJ prospect section has seen me gush over Gavrikov and constantly say he should be over here already and be bottom pairing for us. He is a shutdown down stud. 2 years removed from best D in the WJC while scoring 0 points which goes to show you his shutdown ability. No way we trade him right now.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

A 20 year old playing close to 18 minutes a game for a good KHL team is a long shot?

Why would he leave good KHL team to play for Jackets in minors?

Anytime you draft a Russian kid late it is a longshot he comes over

 

[Viqsi]

Why would he leave good KHL team to play for Jackets in minors?

Anytime you draft a Russian kid late it is a longshot he comes over

Your opinion is noted. Given that this is Chicago, tho, y'all can just go ahead and wait for our rights to expire before you try to drag him over Panarin style.

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

Why would he leave good KHL team to play for Jackets in minors?

Anytime you draft a Russian kid late it is a longshot he comes over

It's not a bad proposal... And I don't disagree with this sentiment at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Gavrikov named top D at WJC in 2015? I would say he's progressing well, but it is a question of whether he will ever come over. I guess the assumption would be that the blackhawks would have more room for him as a 6/7 sooner than the jackets?

I dunno. It's interesting. Not sure what what mcneil really brings to the jackets though...

 

[major major]

I'd rather have a shot of Gavrikov coming over than just another AHL scorer.

 

[Halla]

McNeill cleared waivers last month. why would the jackets give up anything when they could have had him for nothing?

 

[WannabeFinn]

We'll keep Gavrikov, you can keep baldy.

 

[Bubba88]

why would Columbus give up value for nothing?

 

[Alklha]

Why would he leave good KHL team to play for Jackets in minors?

Anytime you draft a Russian kid late it is a longshot he comes over

This gets overplayed. The list of legitimate NHL quality players who choose to stay in the KHL is not long.

If Gavrikov develops into a player who would be a top-4 defenseman in the NHL, then there is a good chance he'll come over. If he's a marginal NHL'er, then he'll likely be staying in the KHL.

That's still a better bet than McNeill.

 

[Esq]

Your opinion is noted. Given that this is Chicago, tho, y'all can just go ahead and wait for our rights to expire before you try to drag him over Panarin style.

Splendid idea.

 

[mikeyp24]

It's not a bad proposal... And I don't disagree with this sentiment at all. Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Gavrikov named top D at WJC in 2015? I would say he's progressing well, but it is a question of whether he will ever come over. I guess the assumption would be that the blackhawks would have more room for him as a 6/7 sooner than the jackets?

I dunno. It's interesting. Not sure what what mcneil really brings to the jackets though...

Yes he was the top D the year before Werenski and he did it without registering a single point. He is the definition of shut down defenseman and is only 21 I think. The jackets are likely waiting for after JJs contract is up or after the expansion draft if he is taken to bring him over. I think the KHL is better to develop him for now until he is NHL ready. In my opinion he is our best D prospect because Werenski graduates/graduated this year. After him it's Carlsson Kukan and Nutivaara. So if after the draft JJ is gone we could have a top 6 of:

Jones-Werenski
Murray-Savard
Carlsson-Gavrikov
Nutivaara or Kukan

That bottom pairing could be as good of a shutdown down pairing as any team has in the league the way those 2 play.

Basically no reason to trade Gavrikov at all unless we are getting a C prospect with the same pedigree.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

don't see either side biting, as CBJ is high on the Russian and CHI not wanting to lose depth for if an injury occurs. Interesting sentiment, though CHI would win the trade if it happens

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Yes he was the top D the year before Werenski and he did it without registering a single point. He is the definition of shut down defenseman and is only 21 I think. The jackets are likely waiting for after JJs contract is up or after the expansion draft if he is taken to bring him over. I think the KHL is better to develop him for now until he is NHL ready. In my opinion he is our best D prospect because Werenski graduates/graduated this year. After him it's Carlsson Kukan and Nutivaara. So if after the draft JJ is gone we could have a top 6 of:

Jones-Werenski
Murray-Savard
Carlsson-Gavrikov
Nutivaara or Kukan

That bottom pairing could be as good of a shutdown down pairing as any team has in the league the way those 2 play.

Basically no reason to trade Gavrikov at all unless we are getting a C prospect with the same pedigree.

What about Dalton Prout?

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Jarmo is on record as saying that he is really only interested in trading for Girardi. If that gets us there, I would do it.

 

[S1N4TR4]

Jarmo is on record as saying that he is really only interested in trading for Girardi. If that gets us there, I would do it.

I follow almost every major reporter/analyst on social media for the CBJ and the rest of the league.. I have never once heard anything or have saw anything about us being interested in Girardi... link?

 

[major major]

I follow almost every major reporter/analyst on social media for the CBJ and the rest of the league.. I have never once heard anything or have saw anything about us being interested in Girardi... link?

You need a link for that? Next thing you know people will ask for a link to know that the sky is blue.

Of course Jarmo only wants Girardi, everybody knows that. Most in demand player, certainly fits the Jackets needs with his exemplary transition play.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

(Not a fan of either team)

Counter offer:

Scott Harrington
conditional draft pick...
...(4th = McNeill 16/17 20+ NHL points)
...(6th = McNeill 16/17 10+ NHL points)
...(nothing = less than that)

for

Mark McNeill

 

[TaketheCannoli]

(Not a fan of either team)

Counter offer:

Scott Harrington
conditional draft pick...
...(4th = McNeill 16/17 20+ NHL points)
...(6th = McNeill 16/17 10+ NHL points)
...(nothing = less than that)

for

Mark McNeill

Blackhawks keep McNeill, if Columbus wanted him they would have claimed him.

 

[mikeyp24]

You need a link for that? Next thing you know people will ask for a link to know that the sky is blue.

Of course Jarmo only wants Girardi, everybody knows that. Most in demand player, certainly fits the Jackets needs with his exemplary transition play.

I'm confused I know j2f is a person that is known for sarcasm but major is normally more serious... but im going to assume both joking here. It's only co.fusing because Girardi is playing decent this year but it's still impossible to move him because the expansion so unlikely.

 

[Monk]

I'm confused I know j2f is a person that is known for sarcasm but major is normally more serious... but im going to assume both joking here. It's only co.fusing because Girardi is playing decent this year but it's still impossible to move him because the expansion so unlikely.

I believe this speaks to the quality of the proposal(s).

 

[Oberyn]

Didn't McNeill clear waivers? Why would the Jackets trade a prospect with some upside for a dime a dozen player?