Value of: Chris Kreider

[pld459666]

I can see him with Colorado. If Kreider wants due to NTC
What exactly Rangers wants and needs ?

Nabakov and Ritchie

 

[StewieP19]

Nabakov and Ritchie

Nabokov does rangers really need him if they resign Shesterkins ?

 

[HuGort]

With him potentially on the trade block, make your offers. Rangers would prefer a youngish LD, but will entertain anything.

He has another 2 years after this season at 6.5M.

Matheson?

 

[BLONG7]

Has Kreider asked to be traded?

 

[Savant]

So why specially Kreider are the rangers wanting gone?

I swear to god ranger fans are mostly wanting Zibenijad catapulted into the sun.

The Rangers need cap space, and have worse players that make more money that are harder to move. If the Rangers move Kreider it’s not going to be a “hockey trade” it’s going to be for some combination of picks/prospects/ELC.

Rangers are going to move better players on more tradable contracts than worse players on anchors

 

[Ruggs225]

Has Kreider asked to be traded?

He doesnt need to. Has a 15 team NTC, not a NMC.

 

[pld459666]

Nabokov does rangers really need him if they resign Shesterkins ?

Trade Shesty to Colorado after Kreider to the Jets.

They may pay a ransom for him then.

 

[seabass45]

So why specially Kreider are the rangers wanting gone?

I swear to god ranger fans are mostly wanting Zibenijad catapulted into the sun.

Kreider is one of two Rangers vets with limited trade protection that could realistically be traded. Salary is reasonable, good possibility for a hockey trade. Zibanejad has a full NMC so any talk about trading him is hopium. Ditto for Panarin, even though someone here seems convinced that Rangers rivals will help them with their problem.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Trade Shesty to Colorado after Kreider to the Jets.

They may pay a ransom for him then.

Might as well start trading everyone at that point.

We aren’t trading our best player and getting better.

 

[pld459666]

Might as well start trading everyone at that point.

We aren’t trading our best player and getting better.

I have never believed in this group, so I'm ok with starting over.

This group is NOT good enough

 

[Bender Duster]

A team like the Jets would be in intriguing destination for Kreider.

Can he still jump out of a pool in waist deep water?

 

[Savant]

Might as well start trading everyone at that point.

We aren’t trading our best player and getting better.

If these guys are on the block, then the goal is not to get better

 

[SirloinUB]

I’d like to see Detroit add him but struggle to see a trade fit between detroit/nyr.

 

[FiveTacos]

Kreider is one of two Rangers vets with limited trade protection that could realistically be traded. Salary is reasonable, good possibility for a hockey trade. Zibanejad has a full NMC so any talk about trading him is hopium. Ditto for Panarin, even though someone here seems convinced that Rangers rivals will help them with their problem.

Yeah, Rangers fans hoping to trade Zib for someone like Zegras are just dreaming. A rebuilding team is not going to want Zibanejad. He's only of use to a current playoff team, but most of those either don't have a good young piece to give, or lack the cap space to take him on.

Kreider OTOH could bring a nice return. I imagine he'd be in much demand amongst playoff teams. If I'm a contender, I'd much rather be paying him what he's getting, than what you'd likely get for that money on the open market, and the term is reasonable.

If these guys are on the block, then the goal is not to get better

I get the conundrum, it's not unlike what most teams face towards the end of their window ... when/how to start the reboot or rebuild. Gotta be careful not to end up on a slow slide into oblivion, and bottom out with a barren pipeline. So trading Kreider, while it probably ends any illusions of chasing the Cup now, could shorten their "downtime" in the long run and also help make the bottom not so deep. It's probably the right approach.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Rangers need some oilers to bring back the glory days again. Saw Trouba might be available too?

Nurse (Messier+Lowe hybrid) + Nuge (wimpy MacT) for Trouba+Kreider. Money almost even. Rangers auto-cup win.

Counter: Nugent-Hopkins for Zibanejad.

 

[oobga]

Counter: Nugent-Hopkins for Zibanejad.

Ngl, would do this any day of the week.

 

[eco's bones]

The Rangers need cap space, and have worse players that make more money that are harder to move. If the Rangers move Kreider it’s not going to be a “hockey trade” it’s going to be for some combination of picks/prospects/ELC.

Rangers are going to move better players on more tradable contracts than worse players on anchors

My guess is they'd want a younger roster player and a very good prospect/draft pick. That they'll be also looking to fill a hole right now in their lineup. I don't see them creating hole without filling a hole or at least not unless they have someone in Hartford they believe is ready for the NHL now. That could be Berard but Berard could also still be premature. Getting a young D who's made it or is on the cusp of making it seems like it would be a thing for them either way though.

On the question of cap space.....for this year unless they intend to bring in a name player for prospects they don't need cap space. That's not to say that they don't have contracts that are biting them in the ass and a huge Shesterkin deal staring them in the face. However just moving on from Trouba (going into his final year next year) and Lindgren and Smith (UFA's this summer) would be more than enough to pay for Igor. I don't see next year's cap as a particular problem either. They will have to pay Kakko and Miller as well but the cap is going to rise again too and the rumors are that it will rise significantly.