Player Discussion Chris Kreider

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I don’t understand why they scratched Kreider. Has he been good? Absolutely not. But he also hasn’t been one of the big problems.

The three main issues are:

1. Horrible group of defensemen
2. A system with absolutely no structure
3. Our 1C is a giant Whoopi cushion

Scratching or trading Kreider won’t fix any of these issues.
So keeping him makes sense?

He deflects pucks and occasionally scores on breakaways. In all my years as a ranger fan i've never seen a key player, do so little to affect the outcome of a game for his team.

Mika is at least missing open nets and passing the puck from behind the net to players that aren't there...

Chris is just wearing a uniform and on the ice at this point.
 
So keeping him makes sense?

He deflects pucks and occasionally scores on breakaways. In all my years as a ranger fan i've never seen a key player, do so little to affect the outcome of a game for his team.

Mika is at least missing open nets and passing the puck from behind the net to players that aren't there...

Chris is just wearing a uniform and on the ice at this point.

He kept giving me headaches with all those goals in the playoffs. Like Chris, just stop already and start moving your feet damnit.
 
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I started watching this club around 1984, and I've all but stopped watching this trainwreck. It starts from the top: Dolan is literal garbage and only hires people whom he assumes will do whatever he says. We've not managed to get an elite coach in ages, and I'd wager it's because no one wants to work for this franchise. I honestly though we had a real chance when they brought J.D. in, but they managed to f*** that up royally.

You then have the "core" of guys like Panarin, Kreider, Mika, etc that I have just come to loathe. They all play like petulant children. The second the game stops going their way, they roll over and die and then whine about it in the pressers.

I'll be glad when not one of this old group remains. Trade the f***ing lot of them. Shit, if the right price gets named for Fox, ship his ass out too. This club needs a totally fresh rebuild. Build from the back on up.

tldr: Trade Kreider while he still has some kind of value.
 
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He can take his 24 goals in his last 43 playoff games (49 in 82 game pace) and go soak his head.

This team needs impact players. IMPACT!!!
Dude has been money in the playoffs for a decade or so.

But considering where the team is, I think they could fetch a hefty return from a contender because of his playoff impact.

At the end of the day, Kreider is a finisher without a play driver to help him if he stays.

Whether he stays or gets traded, he's not even going to play another playoff game as a NY Ranger. That's the reality. So, even as a huge Kreider fan, I do think it's time to cash out on him.
 
Chronic back problems.....that was what forced Turk Gallant out of the league.....it happens . I'd say right now we get absolutely nothing in return for Kreider this season . They waited too long on him for a trade of value . MAYBE next year if he has a good stretch before the trade deadline we might get a good prospect or a first rounder.....but that is a HUGE risk for a trading club . We shall see....
 
Chronic back problems.....that was what forced Turk Gallant out of the league.....it happens . I'd say right now we get absolutely nothing in return for Kreider this season . They waited too long on him for a trade of value . MAYBE next year if he has a good stretch before the trade deadline we might get a good prospect or a first rounder.....but that is a HUGE risk for a trading club . We shall see....

Or... and bare with me here. We let him retire as a Ranger.

And before anyone cites Leetch and Graves... I say who cares. That was 20 years ago.
 
Or... and bare with me here. We let him retire as a Ranger.

And before anyone cites Leetch and Graves... I say who cares. That was 20 years ago.
This is a business.

Detroit has major cap space with their injuries and is still in playoff position.

Trade Kreider there at full cap before the deadline.
 
As much as I do love Chris Kreider, we’re not 5 years removed from Hank being bought out. If we’re ignoring sentimentality to win a championship then Kreider should not be immune.

As someone that was okay with trading him in 2019, I’m thankful they signed him to a really good contract and got the best years of his career out of it.
 
Still think they can get a good haul for Kreider in a week
They're too close to the wild card race. I guess a week can change that, but they hold the lead with regulation wins should they end up in a tied position for that spot. I think Kreider is staying for the season.
 
They're too close to the wild card race. I guess a week can change that, but they hold the lead with regulation wins should they end up in a tied position for that spot. I think Kreider is staying for the season.

I may be wrong but they could get players back vs picks
 
They're too close to the wild card race. I guess a week can change that, but they hold the lead with regulation wins should they end up in a tied position for that spot. I think Kreider is staying for the season.
I think we would trade CK fast if we could get a good return. I think the lack of return is the issue not the playoff race. I say that for multiple reasons.

1. CK playing hurt has not really impacted the team in a positive way often in the last 2 months.

2. I believe we have had CK available for months and probably only got really poor offers so Drury has said no.
 

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