Proposal: CHI-VGK

[Kevin Musto]

To Chicago:

-Evgeni Dadonov
-2022 2nd round pick
-2023 3rd round pick

To Vegas:

-2023 4th round pick

Since the trade with Anaheim will be nixed, Vegas will need to get Dadonov off the books by sending him to a non-playoff team. Chicago will take on the contract for a fee.

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[irishsetter13]

Vegas has to take back players that are on LTIR or else it defeats the purpose. Sure they gain 5 mil in cap space but thats not enough to bring back Stone or Martinez.

Kelser and John Moore worked out perfectly as they could maximize their LTIR to the tune of almost 9 millions dollars.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Vegas has to take back players that are on LTIR or else it defeats the purpose. Sure they gain 5 mil in cap space but thats not enough to bring back Stone or Martinez.

Kelser and John Moore worked out perfectly as they could maximize their LTIR to the tune of almost 9 millions dollars.

Shaw and Khaira are on LTIR and not coming back

 

[irishsetter13]

Shaw and Khaira are on LTIR and not coming back

Its still not 5 mil though. Just under.

 

[north49er]

Question. Does Vegas get a re-set on a Dadonov trade to a team (not on his list), if the original trade is nixed?

 

[Kevin Musto]

Its still not 5 mil though. Just under.

Chicago has $8,725,000 tied up in LTIR, with Khaira, Shaw, and Murphy.

And they can completely absorb Dadonov's contract.

So I think something can be arranged between both teams.

 

[gianni]

Its still not 5 mil though. Just under.

If a 3rd team needs to be involved, the Canucks have Micheal Ferland at 3.5M, and Brandon Sutter at 1.125M -- neither are coming back.

Tucker Poolman is also on LTIR at 2.5M, but timeline of a return is unknown.

 

[Sota Popinski]

Vegas has to take back players that are on LTIR or else it defeats the purpose. Sure they gain 5 mil in cap space but thats not enough to bring back Stone or Martinez.

Kelser and John Moore worked out perfectly as they could maximize their LTIR to the tune of almost 9 millions dollars.

This is totally wrong

 

[TGWL]

Question. Does Vegas get a re-set on a Dadonov trade to a team (not on his list), if the original trade is nixed?

There is no stopping any team form making trades past the deadline. The player sent in the trade can't play. Vegas can made a trade with any team and include Dadonov, however the goal was to bring cap space which now really limits trading partners and teams might not want to put Dadonov in a situation where he can't play.

 

[GAGLine]

Vegas has to take back players that are on LTIR or else it defeats the purpose. Sure they gain 5 mil in cap space but thats not enough to bring back Stone or Martinez.

Kelser and John Moore worked out perfectly as they could maximize their LTIR to the tune of almost 9 millions dollars.

Incorrect. Trading for a player who is on LTIR changes nothing about Vegas' cap situation. The only thing that will clear cap for them is to trade a player who isn't on LTIR and not take back any players who aren't on LTIR.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Vegas has to take back players that are on LTIR or else it defeats the purpose. Sure they gain 5 mil in cap space but thats not enough to bring back Stone or Martinez.

Kelser and John Moore worked out perfectly as they could maximize their LTIR to the tune of almost 9 millions dollars.

Thats not how LTIR works, it doesnt just add cap space

 

[irishsetter13]

This is totally wrong

Incorrect. Trading for a player who is on LTIR changes nothing about Vegas' cap situation. The only thing that will clear cap for them is to trade a player who isn't on LTIR and not take back any players who aren't on LTIR.

Thats not how LTIR works, it doesnt just add cap space

My apologies. I was thinking of LTIR the wrong way. Chicago can trade for Dadonov but he just cant play for the rest of this season if they trade for him.

 

[37Bergenov14]

Well, it seems more reasonable than all the "vegas must pay an excessive number of 1sts/high picks because we have them in a spot" hyperbole being bandied about...

 

[Northernhawk]

Is Chicago on Dadonov’ no trade list…asking for a friend…

Oh and the friend is the NHL!

 

[Taylorst]

To Chicago:

-Evgeni Dadonov
-2022 2nd round pick
-2023 3rd round pick

To Vegas:

-2023 4th round pick

Since the trade with Anaheim will be nixed, Vegas will need to get Dadonov off the books by sending him to a non-playoff team. Chicago will take on the contract for a fee.

Didn't chicago send there 4th round pick to tampa ?

 

[Taylorst]

Thats not how LTIR works, it doesnt just add cap space

Isn't there a limit or percentage of ltir teams are allowed?

 

[sabresfan65]

What taking players back who are on LTIR does is help the team acquiring Dadonov by removing salary from their books and transferring it to Vegas's books. If Dadonov's $5 million are added to a team and $5 million in LTIR from other teams are added to Vegas, the net flow of cash is 0 assuming the LTIR contract isn't insured. Vegas would probably happily take extra LTIR salary back to offset some of the draft/prospect capital they will need to trade to make this happen. Adding LTIR salaries does nothing to create more space for Vegas.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Isn't there a limit or percentage of ltir teams are allowed?

No, in simple terms a player on LTIR effectively has a net zero cap hit, so adding more LTIR does not add more cap space