Player Discussion Charlie Coyle
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BigBadBruins7708
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I think the 1st line will be Pasta-Zacha-Marchand
If it is Coyle, he'd be average at best IMO. Solid D, 60 points or so racking up assists with Pasta and Marchand
If it is Coyle, he'd be average at best IMO. Solid D, 60 points or so racking up assists with Pasta and Marchand
If he plays with Marchand and Debrusk most of the year and can get some decent PP time I think 55-60 points is attainable. Not sure I would classify him as the #1 center when you have Zacha centering Pastrnak.
Mainehockey33
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This is the year for Coyle, no more being held back by Bergeron, Krejci, Haula or Zacha.
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BruinDust
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That's how I see it as well. They may try Marchand on a different line but for all intensive purposes, Zacha as C + Pasta on RW are your first line. They'll likely see all of Marchand, JVR, Lucic, Debrusk, and even others, at some point on LW. Kevin Stevens might get a look yet.
I don't even think Coyle is locked into the 2nd center job. I think when it's all said and done, Morgan Geekie will be centering what people consider "the 2nd line" or the scoring line with pile of offensive zone starts but comparatively little in the defensive zone.
PlayMakers
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My $.02
In a lot of ways Coyle seems primed for a breakout season. At even strength, he outscored most of the #1 centers fans here covet, and he did that in a shut down role, getting 71% Dzone starts. Put him with more productive wingers like Marchand and DeBrusk, give him 60% Ozone starts (which is what the Marchand line is used to getting) and it's hard to make a reasonable argument that his even strength offense won't improve.
The question is where does he fit on the PP. His lack of PP production has always suppressed his point totals. He's always been on the 2nd PP so they don't see a ton of ice. Being relegated to 2nd PP duty also suppressed Hall's totals. If Coyle is the new right shot bumper on the PP1 it could be a big year for him.
The flip side to all that is his age. It's rare for 30+ year olds to have breakout years... Marchand did it, and Coyle is a similar gym rat, but still history isn't favorable.
In a lot of ways Coyle seems primed for a breakout season. At even strength, he outscored most of the #1 centers fans here covet, and he did that in a shut down role, getting 71% Dzone starts. Put him with more productive wingers like Marchand and DeBrusk, give him 60% Ozone starts (which is what the Marchand line is used to getting) and it's hard to make a reasonable argument that his even strength offense won't improve.
The question is where does he fit on the PP. His lack of PP production has always suppressed his point totals. He's always been on the 2nd PP so they don't see a ton of ice. Being relegated to 2nd PP duty also suppressed Hall's totals. If Coyle is the new right shot bumper on the PP1 it could be a big year for him.
The flip side to all that is his age. It's rare for 30+ year olds to have breakout years... Marchand did it, and Coyle is a similar gym rat, but still history isn't favorable.
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Coyle as a first line C
~ 50 points & -30
Tried him as a 2nd line C a few years back and friggin Haula stole that job from him......
He does have some cute golden retrievers though
~ 50 points & -30
Tried him as a 2nd line C a few years back and friggin Haula stole that job from him......
He does have some cute golden retrievers though
DaStinger
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Zacha will be #1 , Geekie #2, Coyle #3 when the dust settles.
My prediction is Zacha is the #1 center and Coyle loses the #2c job to Geekie.
Coyle isn't and won't be their #1C, because they currently don't have one or its unknown. They'll have to roll 4 lines efficiently.
If the current roster upfront stays as is I think Zacha will be the guy with Pasta/Debrusk. The skill is there physically and mentally(Zacha) but we have to find out if he can prove to be consistent, which is what NJ fans said he failed to do there.
If the current roster upfront stays as is I think Zacha will be the guy with Pasta/Debrusk. The skill is there physically and mentally(Zacha) but we have to find out if he can prove to be consistent, which is what NJ fans said he failed to do there.
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Sheppy
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No, I'm not but it's just hard to look at and think this team will compete.
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Babajingo
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Going back to the Perfection Line days. where they have one great line.
Its easy for a good team defend against one line.
Would the second line be something like Debrusk-Coyle-JVR?
I see alot of low scoring games, especially with the good D that they have.
One thing for sure, its going to be different from last year.
BigBadBruins7708
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Yeah, to me unless guys step up it's gonna be that kind of hockey this year. Lock it down defensively and stack a line hoping they can carry the offense and the Coyle-DeBrusk pair kick in enough to win games.
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I'm interested in who the 4th center of the group will be. I'm really hoping that Frederic can get back to playing C and be part of the 4-man group.
Just get to the dance. That's all I care about now.
Which group stands to be better come Aprl/May/June.
Bergeron - 37
Krejci - 36
Coyle - 31
Nosek- 30
Zacha - 26
Geekie - 25
Coyle - 32
Frederic - 25
There is a part of me that thinks I'd take the bottom group of C's come playoff time. Folks raised concerns last summer of trying to win with your two top C's in their late 30s and that's exactly how it played out, just not in Boston's favor.
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It’s not impossible that Coyle produces well in a bigger role, the guy does have his strengths
