GWT: Champions League - League Stage

[Savant]

It's a fairly standard bracket but with draws providing some randomness.

This is “okay” but I think they should re-seed

 

[hatterson]

This is “okay” but I think they should re-seed

I think the group stage is short/random enough that reseeding doesn't really matter much.

Unless Liverpool fall on their face, they're topping the table. So they'll playing 15-18 in R16. Right now that's Brugge, Benfica, Milan, or Real. But even if you guaranteed them the lowest remaining seed, that's currently PSG. Juve and Man City are only a point ahead of that.

Generally speaking the current format will have the top teams make at least the knockouts unless they crap themselves in the group stage (like PSG has and even then they'll likely still make it) and if they play well they'll get the bye straight into R16 although that depends a bit more on draw or having good form versus average form.

 

[Evilo]

But PSG really hasn't "crapped" themselves this is just a moronic statement.
They beat the team they should have, except PSV (draw).
They lost to Arsenal, Bayern and Atletico which is "crapping themselves".

 

[hatterson]

But PSG really hasn't "crapped" themselves this is just a moronic statement.
They beat the team they should have, except PSV (draw).
They lost to Arsenal, Bayern and Atletico which is "crapping themselves".

Yes, they've lost each game they've played so far against pot 1 and 2 teams and drew a pot 3 team which means they've performed about how they should for a team near the middle of the bottom half of the table...which is exactly what they are.

Whining about the draw in a supposed best on best tournament because you've lost against every good team you've played is insanely weak stuff.

 

[Evilo]

Yes, they've lost each game they've played so far against pot 1 and 2 teams and drew a pot 3 team which means they've performed about how they should for a team near the middle of the bottom half of the table...which is exactly what they are.

Whining about the draw in a supposed best on best tournament because you've lost against every good team you've played is insanely weak stuff.

Blah blah pot x or pot y.
That's what we've told you for weeks. The team PSG drew are all worth pot 1 except PSV, Girona or Salzburg. And they've 7 points out of possible 9.
If you think losing to Arsenal, Bayern and Atletico is crapping themselves then indeed insanely weak ass reasoning.

 

[JoVel]

BVB starting two players who've barely played at all this season, even though for once they don't have a completely empty bench. Maybe Sahin knows something I don't.

 

[bluesfan94]

Yes, they've lost each game they've played so far against pot 1 and 2 teams and drew a pot 3 team which means they've performed about how they should for a team near the middle of the bottom half of the table...which is exactly what they are.

Whining about the draw in a supposed best on best tournament because you've lost against every good team you've played is insanely weak stuff.

Consider the source. There's always an excuse for PSG disappointing.

 

[Savant]

I think the group stage is short/random enough that reseeding doesn't really matter much.

Unless Liverpool fall on their face, they're topping the table. So they'll playing 15-18 in R16. Right now that's Brugge, Benfica, Milan, or Real. But even if you guaranteed them the lowest remaining seed, that's currently PSG. Juve and Man City are only a point ahead of that.

Generally speaking the current format will have the top teams make at least the knockouts unless they crap themselves in the group stage (like PSG has and even then they'll likely still make it) and if they play well they'll get the bye straight into R16 although that depends a bit more on draw or having good form versus average form.

I respectfully disagree. I just don;t think there is enough incentivize finishing 1st. If you want to use LFC as an example, sure - they can finish with the best intro stage record and still get a rough draw. And this is after having arguably the worst draw for the intro round besides PSG. Now, maybe the bonus is that they can rest players for the last few games, but again shouldn't there be an incentive to finish top? Maybe its just me.

 

[hatterson]

I respectfully disagree. I just don;t think there is enough incentivize finishing 1st. If you want to use LFC as an example, sure - they can finish with the best intro stage record and still get a rough draw. And this is after having arguably the worst draw for the intro round besides PSG. Now, maybe the bonus is that they can rest players for the last few games, but again shouldn't there be an incentive to finish top? Maybe its just me.

My point isn't that they shouldn't get an advantage, but that a simple reseed isn't really an advantage with how short the group stage is. The lowest remaining team after the knockouts could easily be PSG, Real or City.

 

[Power Man]

What a goal by Hadj Moussa (Feyemoord)

 

[bluesfan94]

My point isn't that they shouldn't get an advantage, but that a simple reseed isn't really an advantage with how short the group stage is. The lowest remaining team after the knockouts could easily be PSG, Real or City.

Let the #1 team pick their opponent. Then #2, etc. Let's have some fun

 

[hatterson]

Let the #1 team pick their opponent. Then #2, etc. Let's have some fun

I'd be all for this. I wish big sports leagues would do it too.

 

[bluesfan94]

I'd be all for this. I wish big sports leagues would do it too.

I get why they don't - talk about motivation - but it would be fun

 

[hatterson]

I get why they don't - talk about motivation - but it would be fun

Yea they don't because you'd have teams constantly pick the lowest available seed for fear of making headlines and offending someone. But it would be entertainment.

 

[John Price]

Offside

Juve score!

Wow Barcelona score!

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Raphina is actually the spiritual leader . Scores and goes to celebrate with the subs.
Puyol like leadership

 

[John Price]

BVB ties it up. Good game here.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Naive push from the teenage cb

 

[Savant]

Let the #1 team pick their opponent. Then #2, etc. Let's have some fun

I think this is such a poisoned chalice.

My point isn't that they shouldn't get an advantage, but that a simple reseed isn't really an advantage with how short the group stage is. The lowest remaining team after the knockouts could easily be PSG, Real or City.

Sure, but with anyone pretty much being anywhere, the lowest remaining seed is something in quantifiable

 

[John Price]

Nice 16 for Juve scored, 2-0

 

[JoVel]

Nmecha and Sabitzer have both done a complete 180 since the end of last season. One went from being completely useless to a very important part of this team, the other the opposite.

 

[Live in the Now]

USA USA USA

 

[John Price]

Barcelona!

 

[Juve]

America, f*** yeah!!!!

 

[John Price]

Wide open net and 6 for BVB scores