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Chad Costello

Can't comment as to why he's not in AHL because I've never seen him play but let's keep in mind AHL is a completely different animal from ECHL. His age is going to be an issue also.
 
RyanCarpenter28 said:
Why hasn't he gotten another chance at playing in the Ahl again.
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I can't remember if I've seen him play or not, but usually the reason behind guys not making it to the AHL who score almost at will in the ECHL is their skating. They don't have the speed/quickness to create the room needed to create scoring opportunities in the AHL that they can in the ECHL. Some guys just lack the size as well.

Players like Costello, Jack Combs, Mike Embach and others who are great in the ECHL but aren't considered AHL material are great to have on ECHL rosters. They don't get called up very often because they aren't affiliated with an AHL organization and they're not NHL prospects. Steve Martinson is the master of having guys like this on his rosters. The unreal 9 "AA" Championships on his resume is a testament to his ability to attract players who can excel in AA, But not AAA. Any ECHL coach who wants to win in the ECHL should follow his model. However, most ECHL coaches have to place AHL/NHL contracted players development above winning.
 
Cyclones Rock said:
I can't remember if I've seen him play or not, but usually the reason behind guys not making it to the AHL who score almost at will in the ECHL is their skating. They don't have the speed/quickness to create the room needed to create scoring opportunities in the AHL that they can in the ECHL. Some guys just lack the size as well.

Players like Costello, Jack Combs, Mike Embach and others who are great in the ECHL but aren't considered AHL material are great to have on ECHL rosters. They don't get called up very often because they aren't affiliated with an AHL organization and they're not NHL prospects. Steve Martinson is the master of having guys like this on his rosters. The unreal 9 "AA" Championships on his resume is a testament to his ability to attract players who can excel in AA, But not AAA. Any ECHL coach who wants to win in the ECHL should follow his model. However, most ECHL coaches have to place AHL/NHL contracted players development above winning.
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Martinson's teams are also entertaining and fans love it. Sadly despite his success he will likely be locked into the AA level as he refuses to "play the game" and kiss the butts of the AHL and NHL parent clubs and chooses to do things his way. He simply wins and is not afraid to push back against NHL or AHL brass when they want to stash underachieving prospects on his team. Who else could win the championship nearly 50% of the time over a 20 year coaching career and not get a sniff at at least an AHL job?

If Marty's style were more common you would see a huge increase in attendance in the ECHL. Now it is obvious that winning is not a clear priority to teams in the league and "development" is the stated goal.
 
Cyclones Rock said:
I can't remember if I've seen him play or not, but usually the reason behind guys not making it to the AHL who score almost at will in the ECHL is their skating. They don't have the speed/quickness to create the room needed to create scoring opportunities in the AHL that they can in the ECHL. Some guys just lack the size as well.

Players like Costello, Jack Combs, Mike Embach and others who are great in the ECHL but aren't considered AHL material are great to have on ECHL rosters. They don't get called up very often because they aren't affiliated with an AHL organization and they're not NHL prospects. Steve Martinson is the master of having guys like this on his rosters. The unreal 9 "AA" Championships on his resume is a testament to his ability to attract players who can excel in AA, But not AAA. Any ECHL coach who wants to win in the ECHL should follow his model. However, most ECHL coaches have to place AHL/NHL contracted players development above winning.
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Marty was my favorite coach but he was a playoff bust in Elmira. He never won a title in the E. I remember an AHL GM told him his job was to develop players and he responded no its to win games.

We need more coaches like him. With the balls to tell off the system. He never iced a bad team. A bit dirty maybe but they were always in the playoffs.
 
JackalsKnuckles said:
Martinson's teams are also entertaining and fans love it. Sadly despite his success he will likely be locked into the AA level as he refuses to "play the game" and kiss the butts of the AHL and NHL parent clubs and chooses to do things his way. He simply wins and is not afraid to push back against NHL or AHL brass when they want to stash underachieving prospects on his team. Who else could win the championship nearly 50% of the time over a 20 year coaching career and not get a sniff at at least an AHL job?
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I've got to think that Martinson's been labelled a loose cannon/not a team player or something of that ilk by the NHL community. As you've said, he's won it all nearly 50% of the time AND he played in the NHL. The AHL is loaded with coaches who didn't win AA championships and who never played in the NHL.

Martinson may have a screw loose, but it certainly hasn't impacted his ability to win. It's very odd that he's never gotten the chance to move up.
 
JackalsKnuckles said:
Martinson's teams are also entertaining and fans love it. Sadly despite his success he will likely be locked into the AA level as he refuses to "play the game" and kiss the butts of the AHL and NHL parent clubs and chooses to do things his way. He simply wins and is not afraid to push back against NHL or AHL brass when they want to stash underachieving prospects on his team. Who else could win the championship nearly 50% of the time over a 20 year coaching career and not get a sniff at at least an AHL job?

If Marty's style were more common you would see a huge increase in attendance in the ECHL. Now it is obvious that winning is not a clear priority to teams in the league and "development" is the stated goal.
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Pat Bingham was a lot like him in my honest opinion.

Sweet Daddy Leo was the opposite but loved using IR.

As for Marty I recall hearing in an interview when he was here that if he were offered a job he'd consider it but he wasn't that interested in going out of his way to get one.
 
Don't know much about Costello, although I've likely seen him play at least once since he had stints with Worcester and Springfield. There are some guys whose skating and speed still get exposed at the higher levels, mainly defensively, which is why they never stick. A guy with a good shot might still put up points.

Reminds me a lot of the late John Spoltore who came up from Louisiana in 1999 to help the PBruins win a Calder Cup. Great scorer, but lacked the all around defensive game to stick with a Peter Laviolette coached club for too long. He actually did well points wise at the AHL level, but never had the total package.
 
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