Confirmed Trade: [CGY/PHI] Morgan Frost, Joel Farabee for Andrei Kuzmenko, Jakob Pelletier, 2025 2nd, 2028 7th

[Volica]

Torts hates him.

Farabee 100% is going to replace Pospisil in our lineup, the winger for Huberdeau and Kadri our ‘first line’. (I use this term very loosely).

 

[ginner classic]

I like this for Calgary quite a bit.

 

[trellaine201]

This can’t be right?

 

[centipede2233]

I see philly taking a run at Bennett come FA

 

[Mobiandi]

This can’t be right?

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The Huberdeau contract essentially gets us to the cap floor these days

 

[Rich Nixon]

adding Rantanen would be huge for the flyers they could trade on of their picks and extra wingers for a centre.

Problem is they just gave two of those RWs (Tippett and Konecny) 8-year contracts and they also have, uh, Michkov. I love Rantanen but if the plan is to take a run there they should have been trading RWs, not committing like $25m worth of cap into them beforehand.

 

[Deadpool8812]

from chuck fletcher to danny briere

i am so sorry philly fans

Most legit Flyets fans have checked out and have been saying Briere is basically Fletcher 2.0 since the beginning.

We just sit back and laugh at the BS this regime spews.

The other week they blamed the fans for the teams poor performance

 

[sepHF]

what is Philly doing lol

 

[Lunatik]

Farabee contract is woof 5 million aav for what?

5m for a 2nd liner is not a bad contract... this isn't 2018

 

[KJoe88]

Horrible for Philly lol

 

[Boxscore]

The best asset in the deal for Philly is the 2nd.

 

[Kahvi]

Kuzmenko has skill, but there's one play I remember him from. He had the puck skating at the offensive blue line and Flames were going for a line change. Easy play, just dump the puck. But instead he tried to dangle through 2 or 3 guys, lost the puck and the other team got a 3-on-1, cant remember if they scored. Torts is gonna love him.

 

[Nikki Potnick]

Even if you added Wolf and Mishkov, would that even get to Rantanen levels yet?

No, but it would've at least raised my eyebrows.

 

[Bard Marchand]

The value in the deal for the Flyers is trading 3+ more years of $5M Farabee for expiring $5.5M Kuzmenko. It's to get out of the Farabee contract to have more cap flexibility in the future.

It's a similar trade to Hartnell for Umberger, Voracek for Atkinson, or that convoluted 3 team Cal Petersen deal.

The value is in the contracts, not the players.

 

[Boxscore]

I see philly taking a run at Bennett come FA

That's exactly what Philly will do... overpay for an average scorer with jam, who will begin declining 2 years into their massive deal. Meanwhile, Briere won't sniff around talent like Rantanen, Pettersson, Necas, etc.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

The dumb thing was using him as a bottom 6 winger for the duration of his career in Calgary and then moving him for a ‘whatever’ return. Promptly goes to top 6 center on a cup winning team is very Flames-ee

I think you are looking at it with far too much hindsight. I do math for a living and I don't think I could count amount of times he would either out dangle himself and turnover the puck, or take some boneheaded offensive zone penalty. He was fantastic in the playoffs but that playoff success was 100% the reason we got the return we did and not something closer to Puljujarvi.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Conroy moved Pelletier at his highest point - a guy that was previously on waivers - and leveraged that into a high upside deal for them imo. Credit to him he's done really good work.

I guess the + for Philly is that Pelletier could be a long term player for them. Whereas Frost obviously wasnt going to be. And they get a 2nd they could package in other deals. (Highly unlikely Kuz works with Torts imo)

I guess we'll see how Frost does in Calgary. I think Farabee will be a good player for them but I'm less confident in Frost.

If Pelletier & Farabee both work out as good 2nd line/middle 6 players then I guess the deal isn't so bad for the Flyers.

 

[Lunatik]

Farabee 100% is going to replace Pospisil in our lineup, the winger for Huberdeau and Kadri our ‘first line’. (I use this term very loosely).

Pelletier already replaced Pospisil there. Farabee will replace Pelts on the top line and Frost will center Rango and Pospisil.

 

[Steveei]

strange trade

 

[JPeeper]

This can’t be right?

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Oh it's right. Flames went from 3rd in most cap space to 3rd in most space by a whopping $1 extra million, still $6 mil behind St. Louis for 4th most cap space.

This is why Flames fans really don't care about Huberdeau's contract right now, we actually need to overpay him to stay over the floor.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

You guys can have Christian Dvorak. He's really mid! Torts would probably love him.

If they add Michkov, I'll be kind enough to add Newhook, so the great Newhook and Dvorak for the worthless Michkov. Call Brière and Torts, they are probably still drunk.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

Pathetic joke of a franchise.

 

[canuckslover10]

Problem is they just gave two of those RWs (Tippett and Konecny) 8-year contracts and they also have, uh, Michkov. I love Rantanen but if the plan is to take a run there they should have been trading RWs, not committing like $25m worth of cap into them beforehand.

Then trade one of them away for a centre, Rantanen is better than all of them. Or you could slide tippet and Konecny to the LW and have you top 6 be

Konecny-Cates-Rantanen
Tippett-Couterier-Michkov

If you can add a 1C or a 2C to that group thats an elite top 6.

 

[Draft Guru]

I think this deal would have been fine if it was just that, though. Kuzmenko and a 2nd for Farabee at least makes a bit of sense. I still think it’s not great for Philly but I can squint and see how it makes sense if they’ve soured on Farabee.

Downgrading from Frost to Pelletier in addition, though? Pelletier was waived earlier this year. Just a bizarre decision to do all of that.

Hasn't Frost been in and out of Torts' dog house too the last couple of years?

He's an RFA coming off a bridge deal, what does his next contract look like? Multi year deal in the $3.5-4M+ range? Flyers probably made up their mind they weren't going to extend him. Similar in a way to the Rangers with Kakko.

Pelletier is 2 years younger and an RFA with an $840k qualifying offer. If he impresses Philly, he likely gets a 2 year bridge deal in the $1.5-$2M per range. Basically resetting the clock 2 years on their current salary commitment to Frost. Danny Briere was once waived himself by Phoenix and passed over by every team, so maybe he sees some of himself in Pelletier.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Good lord is Philly gm on drugs