GDT: Cats out of the Bag - Panthers @ Scotiabank
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Bloomberg
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Do we know the lineup yet? I'd imagine Spezza and Simmonds won't play on back to back? Would like to see Steeves/Anderson
Darcy Tucker
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Elephant in the room: what the hell was that from the panel during last night's 1st intermission?
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Nylander88
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Darcy Tucker
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Bunting Matthews Nylander
Mikheyev Tavares Marner
Blackwell Kampf Engvall
Kerfoot Spezza Anderson
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Mikheyev Tavares Marner
Blackwell Kampf Engvall
Kerfoot Spezza Anderson
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Leafs record
Oct-Dec Record: 20-8-2 = 42 of 60 points = .700 hockey
Jan-Mar Record: 20-11-3 = 43 of 68 points = .632 hockey
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Last 2 months only [Feb-March] Record 12-9-3 = .563 hockey [12 wins and 12 losses]
saffronleaf
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it was about the keefe - davidson issue about the leak re the fleury trade proposal.
Golden_Jet
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That they think Knies will be a good NHLer, and showed his last goal, and compared him to Matthews.
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
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ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
If they are going to suck, at least get Matty the hat trick for 50.
Scion
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Agreed, he has been the one consistently enjoyable part of the season for me. 50 tonight would be cool.
The Blueprint
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I bet we dominate the cats tonight just to confuse every single one of you even more about what to expect from this team.
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
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Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.
Go Leafs Go!!
riffle
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SN spoke to an actual hot topic which was the leak from the Hawks on the details of the non-Hagel/Fleury trade. Hrudey spoke to how it would affect Jack as did Bieksa. This was all spot on. Who is going to argue with Hrudey how this might be affecting Campbell?
The part that, I think, drew the ire of so many was Bieksa speaking to Knies relationship with the Leafs getting off to a rocky start because his name was in the trade talk. This is where it forks for those who are angry. Many are 100% convinced this was all Chicago. They were the ones who asked for Knies so Bieksa saying that makes little sense, if we operate with that understanding. It is a solid interpretation given that the trade wasn't consummated. It would appear that it was not the Leafs who brought up Knies, but rather them who said no when Chicago asked for him.
However, we don't know and will likely never know what levels this really got to and how much it was considered by either side. We just know it did not happen.
Overall, the angst is over media trying to say that Knies must feel slighted by the Leafs because his name was linked to a trade before he even had a chance to sign. I'm with those, to an extent, that the Knies angle is nothing, really. However, the Jack angle was solid and correct and very worthy of discussion. Personally, I was thrilled they led with that. It was necessary. A huge story given it's due that was taken too far regarding Knies and his relationship with the Leafs. But, we have no idea how Knies or his representation may interpret that news. We hope that like most Leafs fans they don't believe that the Leafs were shopping him that he was only asked for and we gave a resounding no to it which should have the opposite effect of what Bieksa stated.
One thing I've been thinking about since that segment is...How do we know Knies is not a Jack McBain? We don't. We don't know that he is, either. Will be watching closely to see what Minnesota does today vs. Western Michigan. Puck drop is at 4p, Eastern. If he doesn't sign like Abruzzese, I will start to wonder if he doesn't want to be here. Will it be because of the trade leak? I highly doubt it but worthy to at least discuss but many have 100% decided that in no way was Kyle even discussing Knies, period.
EDIT: Just rewatched it. Ron sounded like an idiot. I offer this as evidence: (Sorry, for bad crop and sun glare...have to keep it short so it will upload.)
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SHANNYPLAN
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Bunting - Matthews - Marner
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Wake JT and Willy TF Up
Mikheyev - Kampf - Engvall
Kerfoot - Tavares - Simmonds
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Wake JT and Willy TF Up
Rude Dog
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That was ridiculous. All 4 of them and not one with the inclination that perhaps that is what the hawks were asking for and not what dubas offered. I record all the games now so i can just skip over the intermissions. So bad
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Hurt
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It was absolutely pathetic. I get the Skip/Shannon format but this was stupidity. I expected better from that panel.
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Florida is a good team, therefore we will win. We only lose to mediocre and bottom feeding parasitic teams (Arizona, buffalo, montreal, etc) Book it
SeaOfBlue
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It was just a bunch of spinning. They were trying to make it seem like Dubas was "teeming with anger". Not even remotely close. He aired his disappointment and they are making it seem like he was going to have a tantrum about it. Davidson broke an unwritten rule, created a bunch of unnecessary drama that Dubas now has to deal with, and Dubas wasn't going to let that slide like nothing happened. Pretty much he did what a lot of fans thought he was too much of a p***y to do.
They also tried to make it seem like the Leafs were not loyal to Campbell because they had interest in Fleury.
First of all, Bieksa misspoke and talked like the Leafs were moving Campbell when that was clearly not the case. He could say we were being disloyal to Mrazek I guess, but I think the Leafs already made their position more than clear when they waived him.
Secondly, Dubas is the most loyal GM in the NHL. He will stick up for his players even when they have sucked. However he is not doing his job if he is not exploring ways to make his team better. Campbell and Mrazek are not stupid enough to think that the way they have played for the past few months is good enough... And they are not holding up their end of the bargain at all. A GM is not being disloyal to you when he has given you every chance to get back on track and you failed. If you think so, then good luck with another GM who will give up on you for doing a lot less.
Finally, they are assuming that bringing in Fleury equates to Campbell losing his job. There is nothing suggesting that Fleury would have been gifted that starting role, or that the dynamic would have been any different than when Mrazek was here. He may have a ton of prestige but Fleury has been playing worse than Campbell this year and would have to beat out the incumbent if he wants that job.
Then yes, the Knies thing was even more stupid. "You have barely even created a relationship with him and you are now already shopping him". It is clear what SN's agenda was. They needed something juicy to talk about and they are trying to make it look like Dubas gave them a lob that they just had to talk about. In reality, SN is just looking extremely stupid and desperate for a story, and I would not be surprised if Friedman is taking some heat behind the scenes because his comments in the 2nd period effectively confirmed that the first period was completely off base from reality.
Tak7
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The quality of the intermissions has been on the decline for sometime, but last night was shockingly bad. I've never been in a room full of friends, where all of us were yelling at the TV during the intermission.
The fact that Friedman already cleared up the rumor, and shot down any suggestion of Knies, didn't stop them from blowing such nonsense, was so ridiculous.
Tak7
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Fully expecting a great performance tonight - these guys love playing down to their opponents, but when they are faced with a team that can genuinely embarrass them, that fear seems to kick them into a strong, solid performance.
It's why I expect them to be very good tonight. It's why I want Tampa in the 1st round. They don't deserve, nor are they capable of, an "easy" first round opponent.
It's why I expect them to be very good tonight. It's why I want Tampa in the 1st round. They don't deserve, nor are they capable of, an "easy" first round opponent.
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