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Confirmed with Link: Casey Mittelstadt traded to COL for D Bo Byram. Straight up.

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stealth1 said:
Many of you guys forget the biggest issue the Sabres face. Players don't want to come here. It's has nothing to do with being cheap. It's why they end up with Clifton and Johnson. The only ways they get elite talent is through trades and the draft. This team will never be a big player in free agency.
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If there were 1 or 2 d-men that fit the Sabres needs on the market, you'd be correct.

But with 6-7 going to market that could have worked, it's not fantasy to suggest we could have gotten 1 especially if we were paying top of market.
 
At first I was concerned about the fact that the guy is cracking more than half a season for only the first time in 4 years. Horrendous injury history. But then I remembered that Sabres coaching and management have no expectation of physical play from anyone.

I think @Dubi Doo made a comment along the lines of “well there goes the one silver lining of Adams not doing something majorly impactful and dumb.” That about sums it up for me.

Glad they stuck it out with Mittelstadt so long, for him to finally develop into a great player the last two years, just to dump him. It’s like they don’t realize the entire value of young players is the hope that they might achieve to their potential, like he did.

I can’t even express my frustration and disappointment and anger with everything about this team. Seems like you all have covered all the points. But here’s a fun question: Once they trade Zemgus—forget games—will the Buffalo Sabres even win a puck/board battle in 2024?
 
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5 Minute Major said:
The problem is…you used coherent and Sabres in the same sentence.
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PunchImlach is Alive said:
I appreciate the positive outlook but you're really giving them too much credit assuming they'd have a coherent plan
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CaliSabresfan24 said:
Pegula has had something up his sleeve for 13 years and we still have yet to see it..
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I meant, I was thinking something like this:

They are looking to make a big shakeup of the lineup. So they are putting up Power as the center piece of a big deal, that could involve other big names like Keller, Laine, Zegras, or maybe even in a package for Barzal?
 
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How many of you are going to be principled enough to admit in a couple of years that your reactionary hot takes were wrong? Honestly I wish the Sabres never participated in any years deadline day trading so I would haven't to see all the smooth brained takes, year after year. It's f'in exhausting...
 
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re @OkimLom's repsonse to my post - This is exactly what I was speaking to earlier re this board just spewing toxicity. I was just pointing out one small ray of potential benefit of this move, and instantly its shot down. No positivity or silver lining allowed, ever. Everything sucks, and always will. Raze the arena and burn the franchise from the history books then.

Or perhaps, lets think this through for a moment - Cozens had a rough start to the year with the burden of his new contract and his face caved in against Philly. Tage is clearly playing with multiple injuries. Who exactly were the Sabres trading then, according to your post? Dahlin is the face of the franchise, nobody is touching the Skinner or Samuelsson contracts. This is exactly the toxic discourse I'm talking about. Just temper tantrums and no actual rational thought into what to do next.

And I think Granato is also part of the problem, but the over-the-top "brotherly love" has been as much on the players as it is the coach. He doesn't play the game or work out in the offseason, they do. He doesn't make them all spend all star breaks in the Caribbean together, they do. If you're good enough friends, enough with the brofest and call out your friends to step up. Thats on the players, not the coach.
 
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Exactly what I was speaking to earlier re this board just spewing toxicity I was just pointing out one small ray of potential benefit of this move, and instantly its shot down. No positivity or silver lining allowed, ever. Everything sucks, and always will. Raze the arena and burn the franchise from the history books then.

Or perhaps, lets think this through for a moment - Cozens had a rough start to the year with the burden of his new contract and his face caved in against Philly. Tage is clearly playing with multiple injuries. Who exactly were the Sabres trading then, according to your post? Dahlin is the face of the franchise, nobody is touching the Skinner or Samuelsson contracts. This is exactly the toxic discourse I'm talking about. Just temper tantrums and no actual rational thought into what to do next.

And I think Granato is also part of the problem, but the over-the-top "brotherly love" has been as much on the players as it is the coach. He doesn't play the game or work out in the offseason, they do. He doesnt make them all spend all star breaks in the Caribbean together, they do. If youre good enough friends, enough with the brofest and call out your friends to step up. Thats on the players, not the coach.

Exactly what I was speaking to earlier re this board just spewing toxicity I was just pointing out one small ray of potential benefit of this move, and instantly its shot down. No positivity or silver lining allowed, ever. Everything sucks, and always will. Raze the arena and burn the franchise from the history books then.

Or perhaps, lets think this through for a moment - Cozens had a rough start to the year with the burden of his new contract and his face caved in against Philly. Tage is clearly playing with multiple injuries. Who exactly were the Sabres trading then, according to your post? Dahlin is the face of the franchise, nobody is touching the Skinner or Samuelsson contracts. This is exactly the toxic discourse I'm talking about. Just temper tantrums and no actual rational thought into what to do next.

And I think Granato is also part of the problem, but the over-the-top "brotherly love" has been as much on the players as it is the coach. He doesn't play the game or work out in the offseason, they do. He doesnt make them all spend all star breaks in the Caribbean together, they do. If youre good enough friends, enough with the brofest and call out your friends to step up. Thats on the players, not the coach.
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I don't understand your post. Our other centers struggle so it's logical to trade our good center for a broken mystery box?

Even if Byram can play the right side he's just not what we need. We keep trading away our best centers ROR, Reinhart, Eichel and now Mittelstadt for what? We just prolonged making the playoffs by at least a year.
 
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sirsabre said:
How many of you are going to be principled enough to admit in a couple of years that your reactionary hot takes were wrong? Honestly I wish the Sabres never participated in any years deadline day trading so I would haven't to see all the smooth brained takes, year after year. It's f'in exhausting...
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I think the mindset is that if you blindly hate everything the Sabres do...

a. You're right most of the time and that's a reward in and of itself
b. In the very unlikely event you're wrong, it's easy to eat crow if the team is doing well

That's generally speaking. I can't really comment on this trade.
 
EastVillageBlues said:
I meant, I was thinking something like this:

They are looking to make a big shakeup of the lineup. So they are putting up Power as the center piece of a big deal, that could involve other big names like Keller, Laine, Zegras, or maybe even in a package for Barzal?
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I hope so.

Also sorry wasn't trying to be rude, I was just busting your balls. Its hard to be a fan of this organization..
 
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HaNotsri said:
I don't understand your post. Our other centers struggle so it's logical to trade our good center for a broken mystery box?

Even if Byram can play the right side he's just not what we need. We keep trading away our best centers ROR, Reinhart, Eichel and now Mittelstadt for what? We just prolonged making the playoffs by at least a year.
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Rightly or wrongly, the team committed to Thompson and Cozens up the middle. They want to see what Krebs can do as 3C. I agree that one of Thompson, Cozens or Mitts should have been moved to W permanently in a future winning lineup. But they saw a PMD, recent 4th overall pick who they, rightly or wrongly, think to be a future top 4 whose peak will likely be at the same time as the rest of the newer "core". Or they looked at Mitts production and were concerned it was not sustainable, as some analytics folks have suggested this year, and didnt want to pay. I am not one of those doubters, but I at least understand you have to give to get?
 
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