Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] Victor Rask re-signs (6 years, $4M AAV)

[Off Sides]

What has more risk?

This contract or Backes at 5M until he is 37 years old? Or Eriksson til 36, Lucic til 35

Seems to me unless a round of amnesty buyout is coming up, which there may be, those deals when the player is at or nearing the tail end of their career should be considered more risky.

 

[tarheelhockey]

So if the market is overpaying for those guys then you've got me dead to rights, but a spade is still a spade.

There's no such thing as the market overpaying. The players' values are set by the market, so they are worth whatever the market says they're worth.

An individual team can overpay, yes, by exceeding the market rate. But if they paid market rate, then by definition they did not overpay.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Very nice deal.

 

[FireBurningBin]

This is a steal of a contract. Even if he only tops out as a 55-point guy, which is a perfectly reasonable expectation. He's pretty solid defensively too.

If he consistently hit 55 points this would be one of the best contracts in the league.

Alone, 20-25-45 production for 4m is pretty good value, I think. Especially for a centre.

 

[Moosetache]

If he consistently hit 55 points this would be one of the best contracts in the league.

Alone, 20-25-45 production for 4m is pretty good value, I think. Especially for a centre.

Agreed....and a solid 2 way center as well. He's a 200 foot center and just turned 23. There is still room to improve in all areas IMO

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Good deal. Underrated player

Yup, that's how I see it as well.

 

[13to40]

2C signed at that cost? That's a great deal in my books. If I were a Canes fan I would be ecstatic.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Teams are going long term with their young players earlier and earlier. Reminds me of the Klingberg contract which looks incredible right now.

 

[Roboturner913]

Naw, it's handing out stupid risky contracts like this all willy-nilly as to why the hcanes will continue to be dead last in the league standings year after year.

 

[Kanneda]

What has more risk?

This contract or Backes at 5M until he is 37 years old? Or Eriksson til 36, Lucic til 35

Seems to me unless a round of amnesty buyout is coming up, which there may be, those deals when the player is at or nearing the tail end of their career should be considered more risky.

Backes at 6* And yeah UFA signings use to be more risky than resigning your own RFAs, just because you have to compete with the whole league to add the player to your team.

 

[StormCast]

$24 million???

For a guy who has scored 21 goals in his 2nd NHL season, under 50 points, doesn't hit or block shots, is a mid 2nd rounder to begin with, has played under 17 minutes a night (12th in ice time among Canes skaters) for a non-playoff team?

Here's a handy tip for future reference:

When you must rely on a quick stats-only review because you aren't familiar with a player, be sure to understand that "skaters" also include Dmen, which would be an absurd point of reference for TOI. Rask was 4th among forwards on the Canes for the record.

You're welcome and use this newfound knowledge wisely.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Very nice deal for a player that I like a lot. Could turn into a real steal within a year or two.

 

[DaveG]

$24 million???

For a guy who has scored 21 goals in his 2nd NHL season, under 50 points, doesn't hit or block shots, is a mid 2nd rounder to begin with, has played under 17 minutes a night (12th in ice time among Canes skaters) for a non-playoff team?

The hope must be that the 23 year old will develop some more and prove to be more than a tweener (not good enough to be a 2nd liner on a playoff team, but good enough to be a top-9 forward for an average team.

The signing is not by any means 'great'. It may turn out to be okay. Or two years from now he may be an overpaid 15 minutes a night 15-goal scoring, non-physical forward to be shipped to expansion Vegas along with a higher pick to unload his contract.


Yeah, vippe. You are Swedish, he is Swedish. We get your optimism. But there's no hard evidence that he's worth a 6-year deal at the moment. "Solid" is not exactly the right adjective.

This is the exact kind of signing that young #2 centermen are agreeing to right now though. Henrique, Bjugstad, Trocheck, Craig Smith, all took similar deals. '

And from that group the only one that was more productive at the time of signing was Trocheck.

These young mid-high end 2s/low end 1s taking this kind of deal is actually a very good thing IMHO.

 

[The Nuge]

What has more risk?

This contract or Backes at 5M until he is 37 years old? Or Eriksson til 36, Lucic til 35

Seems to me unless a round of amnesty buyout is coming up, which there may be, those deals when the player is at or nearing the tail end of their career should be considered more risky.

Lucic is only signed until he's 34.



It's probably a pretty safe bet, despite being relatively unproven. As long as he doesn't regress, there isn't too much potential for it to backfire

 

[Major Happy*]

Lucic is only signed until he's 34.



It's probably a pretty safe bet, despite being relatively unproven. As long as he doesn't regress, there isn't too much potential for it to backfire

He's already regressing..



Smart for Rask to cash in now.

 

[caniac247]

This is a great deal. The ones shaking their head on it, obviously haven't watched Rask play. For a 2nd line center, $4M per year is a great deal.

 

[StormCast]

Writing a diatribe against Rask when the deal is universally applauded and then attacking Jordan Staal's contract... What's the angle here?

Jordan Staal makes what he is worth. He would get $6 million (or pretty damn close to it) as a UFA right now. Jordan is the type of player that is very valuable in the Playoffs. GMs love these guys.

Ironically Rask can thank both Staal's contract and injury last year for combining to help him land this new deal. He should buy him a nice dinner.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Solid deal for a 2c

Carolina fans shouldn't complain

 

[Dishface]

Can't complain about this. Great deal for a 2C and low 1C as others have said. Francis is starting off his RFA deals right by getting them signed long term. Hopefully this is the standard for our future and being able to not lose anyone in near 5-7 years from now.

 

[Nordic*]

A lot of Swedes develop slowly or continue their development at later stages of their careers. Hopefully Rask does exactly this too, in which case this contract will be a steal in a couple of years.

Also, almost cracking 50 points on a team with that little offensive talent, isn't too bad.

 

[varano]

My concern is that lack of sample size. Many players have had great single years and never lived up to that year. A bridge might have been better

 

[Tripod]

Time to do the quick test:

1 milion for 10 points is the going rate for contracts. Rask is getting 4 million, so expected to get 40 points. If he gets more, good contract. Gets less than 40, a bit of an overpay.

Seeing how he got 48 last year, looks like a good deal to me.

 

[luiginb]

I feel so bad for Canes fans, they've seen some crap product on ice lately if they consider Victor freaking Rask a low-end 1C. By the way, numbers don't back up his mythical 2-way ability.

 

[TheOllieC]

I feel so bad for Canes fans, they've seen some crap product on ice lately if they consider Victor freaking Rask a low-end 1C. By the way, numbers don't back up his mythical 2-way ability.

No one has said they consider him a 1C right now. This kind of deal is about projection, and as a solid 2C right now, it's perfectly reasonable for one to say they could see him eventually becoming a low end 1C.

 

[Moosetache]

Naw, it's handing out stupid risky contracts like this all willy-nilly as to why the hcanes will continue to be dead last in the league standings year after year.

Interesting....just to summarize the accuracy above:

"Dead last" = 18th of 30
"handing out contracts all willy nilly"- Longest and highest dollar amount in I believe 3 years. Since Semin contract and that was the last dumbass GM

Please continue....