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Series Discussion: Caps vs Canadiens de Montréal (Caps win series 4-1)

Who and how

  • Caps in 4

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  • Caps in 5

    Votes: 24 21.6%
  • Caps in 6

    Votes: 45 40.5%
  • Caps in 7

    Votes: 7 6.3%
  • Habs in 4

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • Habs in 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Habs in 6

    Votes: 16 14.4%
  • Habs in 7

    Votes: 3 2.7%
  • F*** it, Caps in 3

    Votes: 5 4.5%

  • Total voters
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Armia & Laine were essentially benched in the third. The Caps are going to need a lot more skilled execution and composure handling forechecks going forward. Take it and learn from it. They managed this one, largely thanks to Thompson, but when they are largely in control of games they need to manage higher quality looks to create more needed insurance.
And Demidov and Heinamen. They rolled 8 forwards in the third. Effective for trying to catch up, not sustainable for more than a period.

I think people are making too much of the third periods.
 
JC74 played all 4:00 of PK, Carbs got away with it, but that's not good long-term strategery (Roy played all 2:00 of the 2nd PK)

This seems almost certainly like a situational thing where they just got stuck on the ice for the whole PK, vs Carbs simply refusing to let them come off for a replacement. Especially if those PKs were in the 2nd period long change? (too lazy to look it up, too old to remember)
 
  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
  • Mangiapane - Eller - Protas
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Leonard

  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
  • Protas - Eller - Leonard
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Mangiapane

  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • Protas - Dubois - Wilson
  • McMichael - Eller - Leonard
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Mangiapane

many options... discuss. keep in mind, we don't get to match lines as easy now on the road.
 
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  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
  • Mangiapane - Eller - Protas
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Leonard

  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
  • Protas - Eller - Leonard
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Mangiapane

  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • Protas - Dubois - Wilson
  • McMichael - Eller - Leonard
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Mangiapane

many options... discuss. keep in mind, we don't get to match lines as easy now on the road.
Option 2 for me. Good balance of skill, speed, defensive and offensive ability and size on every line.
 
I'm surprised we're even discussing putting our best player on the 3rd line, away from Ovi, so we can keep Beauvy up there? Sure, Beauvy has played well, but he can also play well on the 3rd line which gets fewer minutes. The 3rd line is nominal only, it gets the lowest minutes, so putting Protas there seems, um, stupid.

Ovi-Strome-Protas
McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
Beauvy-Eller-Leonard
Doggie-Dowd-Raddysh/Mango
 
I'm surprised we're even discussing putting our best player on the 3rd line, away from Ovi, so we can keep Beauvy up there? Sure, Beauvy has played well, but he can also play well on the 3rd line which gets fewer minutes. The 3rd line is nominal only, it gets the lowest minutes, so putting Protas there seems, um, stupid.

Ovi-Strome-Protas
McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
Beauvy-Eller-Leonard
Doggie-Dowd-Raddysh/Mango

well that's mainly because Beauvy has played so well, why move him now? Also, Protas is coming back from injury, might be best to ease him back in. I'm pretty sure these lines will be changing up during the game regardless. I do like those lines though.
 
This seems almost certainly like a situational thing where they just got stuck on the ice for the whole PK, vs Carbs simply refusing to let them come off for a replacement. Especially if those PKs were in the 2nd period long change? (too lazy to look it up, too old to remember)
nope...
just reviewed the 2 PK's (5:40 into 2nd and 17:41 into 2nd)
1st PK: JC had at least 3 easy opptys to change from :40 in to about 1:20 in and didn't (playing RD)
2nd PK: JC had clear opptys at :50 in and 1:32 in (and was closer to bench playing LD)

seems Carbs told JC you're staying out there the whole 2 so be ready
 
well that's mainly because Beauvy has played so well, why move him now? Also, Protas is coming back from injury, might be best to ease him back in. I'm pretty sure these lines will be changing up during the game regardless. I do like those lines though.
This was my thought process as well. Can always swap them if it's not working. I feel like Pro and Leno could been very dangerous together though.
 
nope...
just reviewed the 2 PK's (5:40 into 2nd and 17:41 into 2nd)
1st PK: JC had at least 3 easy opptys to change from :40 in to about 1:20 in and didn't (playing RD)
2nd PK: JC had clear opptys at :50 in and 1:32 in (and was closer to bench playing LD)

seems Carbs told JC you're staying out there the whole 2 so be ready

Wow, ok, we'll see how that holds up over time. Maybe it works if we only take one or two PKs, but if that changes in Montreal, its unsustainable.
 
I'm surprised we're even discussing putting our best player on the 3rd line, away from Ovi, so we can keep Beauvy up there? Sure, Beauvy has played well, but he can also play well on the 3rd line which gets fewer minutes. The 3rd line is nominal only, it gets the lowest minutes, so putting Protas there seems, um, stupid.

Ovi-Strome-Protas
McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
Beauvy-Eller-Leonard
Doggie-Dowd-Raddysh/Mango
I don't think the idea is to leave Pro on the 3rd indefinitely, just for the next game to ease him in and let that first line keep cooking.

Pro then moves up in lots of different scenarios: Beau dries up, someone gets hurt, or Pro looks amazing and forces more ice time.
 
Video in below shows McMichael with what looks like an ice treatment on right knee. (30 seconds in.) Just an observation, haven't seen or heard any indications of injury.



For those without the shitter:
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I don't think the idea is to leave Pro on the 3rd indefinitely, just for the next game to ease him in and let that first line keep cooking.

Pro then moves up in lots of different scenarios: Beau dries up, someone gets hurt, or Pro looks amazing and forces more ice time.

I understand the proposed reasoning, I just don't see it playing out that way. Protas should not have to earn his 1st line slot, and Beauvy hasn't exactly earned a lock in there when the team is fully healthy. Carbs didn't "ease" Ovi back in after 5 weeks out, he played 17 mins in his first game back. Pro has been out two weeks and isn't doing rehab, he's healing from a cut. Ovi didn't have to spend time on the 3rd line, why would Pro?

Beauvy has played well, no doubt. I guess for me it boils down to how much 5/5 time do we want Beauvy to play vs Pro, and I can't think of any reason why Pro shouldn't get much more time, even in his first game back.
 
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  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
  • Mangiapane - Eller - Protas
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Leonard

  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • McMichael - Dubois - Wilson
  • Protas - Eller - Leonard
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Mangiapane

  • Ovechkin - Strome - Beauvillier
  • Protas - Dubois - Wilson
  • McMichael - Eller - Leonard
  • Duhaime - Dowd - Mangiapane

many options... discuss. keep in mind, we don't get to match lines as easy now on the road.

Please be true! I love those lineups. While I don't dislike Raddysh, he imho is the guy getting nacho duty. Mangiapane can forecheck and capable of getting in dirty areas. Duhaime is a stud who is giving Montreal fits. Leonard is Leonard and keeps getting better with more scoring capability than Raddysh. If those lines are good for next game I can't wait for puck drop.
 
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And Demidov and Heinamen. They rolled 8 forwards in the third. Effective for trying to catch up, not sustainable for more than a period.

I think people are making too much of the third periods.

I see it more as slowly taking the life out of Montreal. First the OT win. Then LT killed their hope of tying the game with McMichaels EN dagger. If the Caps win game 3 it will be lights out for the Habs. No doubt about it Montreal has hope and they will be expecting a huge boost with their first home playoff game in a while. I'm one of those that don't care how teams win as long as they win. Look at what happened in the last few games in Montreal like with Chicago. They got ramped up thinking it was playoffs then Chicago stripped them of what they thought was a given. AA stepping in after getting the news on Fever's injury is just a wonderful story. The first round of the NHL playoffs is one of the greatest things in all of sports imho.
 
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