SecretaryofDefense5
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That line up is a lottery pick waiting to happen.
Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2023-24 Regular Season Edition
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With $10-15M to spend and a bunch of 2nds and 3rds , I just t would like to see them sign a top defenseman based on the lineup
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Not wrong, but also kind of ignoring the outline of that post: That's the roster right now, with no undocumented moves and double digit cap space.
They could be any number of things come next fall, and even if they do nothing big and decide to run something comparable for next year: that's a lottery pick on the tail end of hitting what seem to be some really quality value picks.
If they have to compress a draft window for the Ovechkin era playing a lot of youth before he's nearing done in the hopes that one more pick could swing things isn't the worst way to do it, and in the meantime they'd get a lot of guys a lot of games.
Or maybe they swing a banger. Doesn't look right in this market but we'll see.
I hope they stay patient and not spend for the sake of spending ... find another Strome
Let the bargains materialise and restock ... trade up in the next couple of drafts if it makes sense
Let the bargains materialise and restock ... trade up in the next couple of drafts if it makes sense
SherVaughn30
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If Vegas doesn't sign Stephenson, I could see him signing with the Caps on a 2 or 3 year deal to help OV reach the record. LTIR of Oshie(I mean how more times is he gonna sacrifice himself to the NHL over his family?) could be used to pay Stephenson.
I wouldnt be suprised if atleast one of those 3rds for this season and maybe a later one is used to jump some picks higher on the VGK 2nd. They like doing that even when they dont have surplus.
And i dont mind an Edmundsson repeat either. Trade low for someone that either helps you on ice, or gets you the investment back on TDL again.
People here have been saying this about the team all year. We are 20 games away from the season being done and they are still fighting for a playoff spot. This is an average to a slightly above average team.
Misery74
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And getting better. We got a young coach, to blend old and young, and that is exactly what he has done.
Better news, the old is being phased out, and some of these kids look dynamic.
Detroit falling apart too. We have a great shot at the postseason.
Finally, our youth just took a dump on the ice at PPG Arena and left and left it for them to clean up. We are at least five years ahead of that team.
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LOLI was wondering how we might be able to use the cap space to grab a high pick or good prospect. Anyone have any cap dump ideas we could use to grow the re-tool?
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Cirelli or Cernak stand out as potential cap casualties so that TBL can restructure and improve their depth. If they have a quick exit that might be on the table, particularly if it enables them to replenish their system a bit. Not sure they'd move a center like Cirelli but he is trending down a bit and there are a lot of miles on those guys. But they--and others--may skirt their issues by acquiring perma-LTIR guys like Seabrook, who's expiring. (To the point where Backstrom's contract post-signing bonus may have some value to teams, NTC aside.)
The Caps need aim high. Maybe there are some thriftier, less established value opportunities on the fringes but that shouldn't be front and center. They need to go big game hunting. Whoever they target probably needs to be at a premium position and ideally also with winning intangibles. While they could use more scoring I'm not sure I'd pay up for a winger at this stage. For the right one, absolutely, but I'd look to improve C/D first and be content going younger on the wings (esp. if Leonard turns pro). Overall it's a lot easier to finesse the wings if there's high level underlying play from their C/D.
The Caps need aim high. Maybe there are some thriftier, less established value opportunities on the fringes but that shouldn't be front and center. They need to go big game hunting. Whoever they target probably needs to be at a premium position and ideally also with winning intangibles. While they could use more scoring I'm not sure I'd pay up for a winger at this stage. For the right one, absolutely, but I'd look to improve C/D first and be content going younger on the wings (esp. if Leonard turns pro). Overall it's a lot easier to finesse the wings if there's high level underlying play from their C/D.
So glad we didn’t move Dowd. Would have done it if we could have fleeced someone, but Caps want to challenge for Cup the next two years. That feels much more realistic with OV coming back to his normal self.
We need both youth and vets to compete for a cup.
Center depth: Strome-Lappy-McMichael-Dowd (with Protas and Sutter as depth pieces).
I would love to sign Zegres. That is a potential 1C who is young at 22 and lots of upside. Fun to watch and will bring energy to fan base. Maybe we have to give up one of our centers to get that done.
I would not be surprised to see us bring back a vet in either Mantha or Patches. We can definitely get Patches on 1 or 2 year deal to help add some veteran prescene to develop youth.
We need both youth and vets to compete for a cup.
Center depth: Strome-Lappy-McMichael-Dowd (with Protas and Sutter as depth pieces).
I would love to sign Zegres. That is a potential 1C who is young at 22 and lots of upside. Fun to watch and will bring energy to fan base. Maybe we have to give up one of our centers to get that done.
I would not be surprised to see us bring back a vet in either Mantha or Patches. We can definitely get Patches on 1 or 2 year deal to help add some veteran prescene to develop youth.
Could this be Caps top-6 in ~4 years and can it be good enough to compete for the cup? (Without taking the rest of the team into consideration)
Mirosnichenko - Lapierre - Leonard
Cristall - McMichael - Protas
Mirosnichenko - Lapierre - Leonard
Cristall - McMichael - Protas
No. Haha.
Would be a strong middle 6 though. We have a good talent pool coming up but lacks top line players.
Agreed.
Miro and Leonard could IMO blossom into 1st liners, CMM and Hendrix are more likely 2C and 3C, Cristall might thanks to his hockey IQ turn out to a 2LW if he improves his skating and strength and Protas seems like a great 3rd line player
Miro - X - Leonard
Cristall - McMichael - X
Protas - Lapierre - X
Is more likely something to build a contender around IMO.
Miro and Leonard could IMO blossom into 1st liners, CMM and Hendrix are more likely 2C and 3C, Cristall might thanks to his hockey IQ turn out to a 2LW if he improves his skating and strength and Protas seems like a great 3rd line player
Miro - X - Leonard
Cristall - McMichael - X
Protas - Lapierre - X
Is more likely something to build a contender around IMO.
SecretaryofDefense5
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I have my doubts on Miro turning into a 1st line winger but I agree on everything else.
I strongly disagree on Jimi. I see him as a 1C or 2C depending on his development. He reminds me a lot of Kuznetsov.
McMichael to me is a strong 3C who can play 2C if needed. A better Eller in his prime. Honestly, I’d look to trade McMichael as part of a deal to get a 1D or a premiere forward at some point.
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Me too. If I'm sketching out a cup contender, I'd like my top line to be either point per game players or bring something else to the table, like Tom Wilson when he used to be a wrecking ball.
What's a realistic ceiling for Miro? Somewhere in the 50s, maybe? He's probably got the potential to be a middle six guy on a championship team.
I honestly didn’t mean CMM/Lapierre in any particular order, I just haven’t seen any of them commanding the game yet, even in short instances (although I haven’t been watching as many games in the last few years as I previously used to, since I became a father and am living +6 timezones away from DC).
That’s why I’m hesitant on either being a 1C, and wouldn’t be opposed trading either for a future core piece needed in another position.
I love advanced stats, but in this instance I would have to account for a little delay in development because of losing a year to his disease and the adjustment period for moving across the world a learning a new culture/language.
So far he seems to me like he’s ending up in the right places to get scoring opportunities and like he’s working hard at improving. I guess time will tell, but the release he has on his shot is to my amateur eyes above NHL average. And if he earns the right opportunities (PP) and gels with linemates, who knows.
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