Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2023-24 Regular Season Edition

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Because I expect us to have even more cap flexibility in 25-26 (Backstrom's off the books and LTIR still causes headaches during the summer), and it would still be nice to have more space in 24-25 to create flexibility. For instance, if a team is willing to move on from a DeBrincat because of cap reasons, we need to have cap space available to pounce.
Can't see us anywhere near not having the extra 4 million dollars in the bank to acquire an asset like that. He won't play the entire season next year in Hershey. He'll go home before he does that and then you've got the whole 7.8 back. It's a gamble but at worst you tie up an additional 4 million that you probably won't need anyways, at best you get it all back for nothing.
 
Should have been thinking that a couple concussions ago, really
I won't pretend to understand the life of a professional athlete at all because that mentality is wild to me but... to have a father who deteriorated thanks to a brain disease and then father like 4 kids of your own while bashing yourself up and taking multiple concussions later in your career while continuing to injure yourself in other ways, talk about how there are days where you just can't walk well, and still keep trying to play NHL hockey is... extra wild to me.
 
Looking at Cap Friendly, with the Sandin resigning, that's the third such resigning BMAC has done that will impact the team's cap for next year. The other two are Wilson and Protas. That's a total of roughly 7 million plus in added cap (on top of their current salaries) for next season with those three resigning but it'll be a wash with the Mantha and Pacioretty contracts being off the books.

There's still McMichael and Malenstyn both RFAs that need to be resigned.
 
Can't see us anywhere near not having the extra 4 million dollars in the bank to acquire an asset like that. He won't play the entire season next year in Hershey. He'll go home before he does that and then you've got the whole 7.8 back. It's a gamble but at worst you tie up an additional 4 million that you probably won't need anyways, at best you get it all back for nothing.
There is no doubt the best outcome is mutual contract termination. So GMBM has to be working that angle hard and it will take time (like to the draft). That will be a big (but unheralded) move. If he can’t do that, I would do the buyout. Paying $2M in 25-26 and saving 4M next year is good choice. A lot comes off the books in 25-26.
 
There is no doubt the best outcome is mutual contract termination. So GMBM has to be working that angle hard and it will take time (like to the draft). That will be a big (but unheralded) move. If he can’t do that, I would do the buyout. Paying $2M in 25-26 and saving 4M next year is good choice. A lot comes off the books in 25-26.

Its basically saving 3M for next year though, as you also save 1M just burying him to AHL.

Unless we really have a plan for that money, id rather wait it out than linger it to the next season aswell.
 
Btw, an offseason buyout isn't a great option, I think BMac would much rather use retention to move him if he clears waivers.

If he goes unclaimed and stays on the books to the offseason, next year they owe him 2m signing bonus plus 6 million in salary for an 8m outlay. No matter what, they owe him that 2m. If they bury him in Hershey, he'd count 6.65m against the cap the whole year.

If they traded him at full retention, they'd cover half his 24-25 salary, so they'd have a 5 million outlay (2m bonus plus 3m salary, as presumably he wouldn't be traded before the bonus is paid in the offseason), his cap hit with full retention would be 3.9 and he's off the books after 24-25.

If they bought him out, they'd need to pay his signing bonus, plus 4 million of his 6 million salary, so a 6 million outlay, his cap hit would be 3.8 next year and 2m in 25-26. Essentially, buying him out costs a million more, saves nothing in cap hit next year, and encumbers the cap by 2 million in 25-26.
If I could quote my post in the Kuznetsov thread, buying him out is more expensive monetarily and affects 2 years of the cap while saving only 100k of actual cap space compared to a full retention trade in the offseason.
 
I have not been able to to watch a game the past few weeks. How has Hendrix Lapierre looks playing center on the top line? I am not expecting to hear he will be a future top line center. Still I hope to hear he looks good and my find a spot in the top six down the road.

Do you think he passed CMM on the center depth chart?

Thanks
 
I have not been able to to watch a game the past few weeks. How has Hendrix Lapierre looks playing center on the top line? I am not expecting to hear he will be a future top line center. Still I hope to hear he looks good and my find a spot in the top six down the road.

Do you think he passed CMM on the center depth chart?

Thanks
Lapierre have looked great since he returned. 4 Goals, 2 assists in 5 games. The question is if he can handle more minutes. So far he have played around 11-14 minutes while CMM plays around 5 minutes more. So Lapierre while he gets minutes with Ovi are playing 3rd line minutes for the Caps.

I like Lapierre's game and think he is solid defensively aswell. Right now I have higher hopes for him to be a 2nd C or even a 1C. I can see Lapierre being at 60-80 pts in his prime with a solid two way game. I dont see that in CMM. Perhaps on the wing carried by a top C.
 
Lapierre have looked great since he returned. 4 Goals, 2 assists in 5 games. The question is if he can handle more minutes. So far he have played around 11-14 minutes while CMM plays around 5 minutes more. So Lapierre while he gets minutes with Ovi are playing 3rd line minutes for the Caps.

I like Lapierre's game and think he is solid defensively aswell. Right now I have higher hopes for him to be a 2nd C or even a 1C. I can see Lapierre being at 60-80 pts in his prime with a solid two way game. I dont see that in CMM. Perhaps on the wing carried by a top C.
Ehh we will see. I look at CMM as Lars Eller 2.0 when he was at his peak. Good 3C on a good team, can play 2C for a bit. Lapierre while he is having a good stretch I can see being a similar player, high end 3C with a ceiling at 2C.

Unfortunately the Caps have 3 centers who are all middle 6 centers in Strome, Lapierre, and McMichael. It isn't the end of the world but there is no real 1C in that crop. Teams can get away with that with high end wingers who can score, unfortunately the Caps don't have that in the pipeline really either.

80 points for Lapierre means he scores 25 and gets 55 assists, I just don't see a path to that - especially the assists - without bringing in a 40 goal scorer
 
Ehh we will see. I look at CMM as Lars Eller 2.0 when he was at his peak. Good 3C on a good team, can play 2C for a bit. Lapierre while he is having a good stretch I can see being a similar player, high end 3C with a ceiling at 2C.

Unfortunately the Caps have 3 centers who are all middle 6 centers in Strome, Lapierre, and McMichael. It isn't the end of the world but there is no real 1C in that crop. Teams can get away with that with high end wingers who can score, unfortunately the Caps don't have that in the pipeline really either.

80 points for Lapierre means he scores 25 and gets 55 assists, I just don't see a path to that - especially the assists - without bringing in a 40 goal scorer
I see Lapierre as a PPG player. You should go to the prospect page and look at his profile. The kid persevered, and was viewed as top 5 talent. He’s the perfect center right now for Ovechkin. Good vision, and can play 200 feet.

A 40 goal scorer could be on the way, in Ryan Leonard.

Next year I am absolutely fine with: 29,17,24, in that order.

One last note. The Penguins fans got a good look at the future last night. Both ours and theirs. We are five years ahead of that team. And, we have youth and cap space.
 
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IINM they'll have something like $12M to spend on a couple players (assuming Backstrom LTIRes). Lots of assets to bid on a younger option like Buchnevich/Chychrun/Zegras or be active in free agency.
 
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IINM they'll have something like $12M to spend on a couple players (assuming Backstrom LTIRes). Lots of assets to bid on a younger option like Buchnevich/Chychrun/Zegras or be active in free agency.
Bring UFA Chandler Stephenson back?

Sandin just got inked. Send him along with Suzdalev to the Senators for Chychrun?
 
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Bring UFA Chandler Stephenson back?

Sandin just got inked. Send him along with Suzdalev to the Senators for Chychrun?
I don't think Suzdalev has much value. I think he's probably been exposed as a beneficiary of playing on the same team as Bedard. He has been such a disappointment.
 
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IINM they'll have something like $12M to spend on a couple players (assuming Backstrom LTIRes). Lots of assets to bid on a younger option like Buchnevich/Chychrun/Zegras or be active in free agency.
Based on this framework, with Oshie on IR and Backstrom on LTIR, and with McMichael and Malenstyn still needing RFA deals, they head into the offseason with 17.9M in cap space. If Oshie joins Backstrom in LTIRetirement it jumps up to 23.7M. Definitely a lot of room to work with, plus a lot of picks (now at 11 picks in the first three rounds of the next two drafts), it's gonna be fun to speculate this summer on how they'll use it.

Ovie-Lapierre-Protas
XXX-XXX-Wilson
Miro-Strome-Milano
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Fever-Carlson
Sandin-Jensen
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Kuemper
Lindgren
 
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Based on this framework, with Oshie on IR and Backstrom on LTIR, and with McMichael and Malenstyn still needing RFA deals, they head into the offseason with 17.9M in cap space. If Oshie joins Backstrom in LTIRetirement it jumps up to 23.7M. Definitely a lot of room to work with, plus a lot of picks (now at 11 picks in the first three rounds of the next two drafts), it's gonna be fun to speculate this summer on how they'll use it.

Ovie-Lapierre-Protas
XXX-XXX-Wilson
Miro-Strome-Milano
XXX-Dowd-XXX

Fever-Carlson
Sandin-Jensen
TVR-Bear

Kuemper
Lindgren
Who in Hershey is ready to make the jump?

Stevenson in goal, could make either Kuemper or Lindgren expendable.
HAK and Iorio could make some of the d the likes of Jensen and TVR expendable.
Forwards, besides the RFAs McMichael and Malenstyn, will and can Leonard make the jump or someone else in Hershey rise to the occasion.
 
Keep the picks and restock the pipeline. Young NHL ready players cost a lot more assets to acquire than vet players. They cost a premium.You can't successfully rebuild a team trying to acquire a bunch of young current NHL assets. I'd venture to say Cowan(pick traded for Sandin) is already worth more in the market than Sandin after the year he's had.
 
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Protas McMichael Leonard
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Fever Carlson
Sandin Jensen
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Kuemper
Lindgren

Comes in at $76-77M. Even if Oshie retires and they’ve got $15M cap space if they sign a forward he’s going to block a first round pick.
 
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